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April 19, 2015

WHAT'S THAT SMELL?

Oregon is Going to Try to Make Beer Out of Sewage Water

(Thanks to Unholy Slacker)

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We already do that. It's called Bud Light.

Anheuser-Busch

The article has some beautiful prose...

"I’m sure water professionals throw some crazy keggers..." is my favorite.

What else can I say but, 'Ahh, Oregon'.

Makes skunky beer seem like a craft beverage.

Next up: Frack Beer

NMU Alias: good one, but technically 'Flowback Beer'

It won't stop Homer.

Damn, Jeff beat me to it.

North Dakota could try this with someone's sewage lift station. Just a thought.

I doubt the State of Oregon will be making beer; some private entity will use reclaimed wastewater to brew this, I suppose.

For ordinary Americans, using reclaimed wastewater is great, if you understand what you are using it for. Irrigation, for example, is a great use.

For consumption, this is stupid money, because the problem with reclaimed wastewater is not poop. It's metals. Primary and secondary wastewater treatment does not remove metals, so it is great to use treated wastewater for irrigation, applying metals in solution back to the ground, where they came from, as long as nobody is using that same layer of water for a well to drink from.

If we Oregon is using treated wastewater to make beer, they are producing tertiary-treated wastewater, including metals removal, for this process. If that is the case, this seems to me to be the opposite of responsible water treatment. These folks are creating a concentrated soluble waste that includes the metals, (mercury, arsenic, for example), that is not being dispersed in harmless quantities over broad landscapes. What are we supposed to believe they are doing with these concentrated, soluble, metallic wastes?

Beware, Oregon's neighbors! They are going to try to shove this waste onto somebody and they won't be able to hide it, for long. Oregon is going to ship this waste off to somebody, because you can't get rid of the stuff in chemistry referred to as an element. If they are putting the water fraction into beer-brewing, for consumption, then the metals from the tertiary-treatment process are piling up, instead of being dispersed over a broad landscape.

This sounds, to me, like a laughable solution to a problem that does not exist, when these substances are diffuse. Concentrating these substances to clean water to the tertiary level creates poisons. And there is no way that Oregon has the money to separate out these soluble metal poisons into products that they can sell.

I don't think they are capable of doing it, or that anybody in whale-blow-up-state can prove me wrong. If the are treating their wastewater to the tertiary level, they are accumulating a powerful and massive pile of waste that they have no plan for managing.

Somebody that I sat next to, back in the day, was a perfectly good engineer, that moved to Oregon. He knows what I learned, and he learned, when we were younger. He sat, next to me, with wastewater engineers. What do you think, Jean?

Or any other water quality-type engineers?

What would be your family-friendly idea about waste management for this idea? Is Deep-Well Injection the idea behind the management of soluble metallic wastes in these situations?

Thanks for sobering me up.

IPFA (I Pee Freely Ale)?

Obligatory: Buttweiser.

Has anyone tested CJRun's IQ ? I think its too high for this blog......ingormative....

Yeah, we are definitely high concept/low unibrow.

My Dad was a civil engineer for the PDX water and waste. Creative and safe wastewater use is the Holy Grail. I suspect that messing with his end of the day beer would piss him off.

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