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August 16, 2010


"I yelled, 'I want my multigrain bagel!' " Rosenthal said.

"The barista said, 'You're not going to get anything unless you say butter or cheese!' "

(Thanks to bonmot)


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I'm all for being a Grammar School Marm, but that woman is just ridiculous. And yes, as a matter of fact, you DO have to tell Burger King (and McDonald's, and Wendy's) what you DON'T want on your burger if you don't want all the default toppings. If you want a plain burger you have to specify "plain."

Up with this I will not put!

exactly! in fact at b-kings where i go you specify "no cheese" to forestall the inevitable next question... this woman would probably take a flamethrower to the place!

linguistics got nothing to do with this lady's problem...
(b.t.w. i'm a college professor and i'm uniformly nice to counterpersons, one meets a depressing number of former students there)

My son is a barista at Starbucks. I don't play along with their silly language. Any Starbucks that I have gone in, I ask for small or a medium, (no matter the language they use), the wait staff understands what I mean and is not so anal retentive that they make an issue.

If you are in any way unhappy, you can mention it to the manager or any of the wait staff, politely. They usually are accomodating and will often give you a coupon for a free drink.

Professor has a coffee stirrer up her a$$. Just say "plain" and get over yourself. Life's too short...

The woman sounds like a stuck-up, self-important j@ckass. When the guy asked her if she wanted butter or cheese, JUST SAY NO.

My favorite part, however, was Ms. Ph.D from Columbia, the self-proclaimed "stickler for language," calling the guy an @sshole.

Takes one to know one, sweetie.

Years ago Burger King had a ham and cheese sandwich they called a Yumbo. My then husband refused to order one for me by that name because he said it sounded stupid so he would say he wanted the ham and cheese thingie. As for this woman I'm all for using proper language but she sounds like a self absorbed AND self-important jack @ss. She does need to get over herself.

She sounds like a venti a$$hole. Yeah, the special branding jargon can be annoying, but get used to it. At BK the "value" coffee is a buck, the "small" coffee is $1.39. What happens when you have 4 sizes?

By her own words:

Instead, she insists on making a pest of herself by ordering a "small" or "large" cup of joe.

She insists on making a pest of herself and is then surprised when her efforts aren't appreciated??

Buh bye...

No bagel for you!

If she doesn't like the way they operate, why the hell did she keep going back?

Many years ago, after spending most of the day at a work-related convention in Chicago, I straggled into the only restaurant in the Loop that was still open and looked like they might have pizza. So I simply ordered a pizza and on gulping down several bites thought it tasted strange, then realized incredulously there was no tomato sauce in it. When I called over the waiter, he sniffed "You didn't ask for tomato sauce" ... !

Starbucks should have specified that they wanted customers with no attitude.

@nursecindy: my favorite jingle for the 'yumbo' was
"don't be a dumbo
order a yumbo
burger king's new ham and cheese!"

i like how they musically insult their customers...

If she doesn't like the way they operate, why the hell did she keep going back?
Because she quite clearly enjoys being a monumentally annoying jackass.

Any wagers she goes to another Starbucks and does the same thing?

Years ago, McDonald's called their fish sandwich a 'whaler', I refused to call it that and they refused to sell me one. I went some where else.

If I want burned coffee, I just leave the pot on until the next morning. That way, I don't have to go to Starbucks. It's much cheaper.
I, too, find their terms pretentious and incomprehensible. I find it strange that you find Starbucks inside many bookstores; stores that for some reason fail to sell an English: Starbucks translation dictionary. A "venti" or whatever they call it? That's close enough to a "20 oz" in several languages that I can guess what it is but the "baristas" don't seem to have a clue.

yeah... i get kind of anally irritated when folks mount a soapbox in the cause of 'preserving correct english' in general.

mr. barry (our illustrious blog) once wrote about people that expressed a disliking of answering machines by saying "i just hate talking to a machine" as if they were stating a philosophical position rather than a minor neurosis, and suggested that they go home and talk to a machine they felt more comfortable with, say, a toaster until they felt strong enough to join the rest of us in 1989 (or whenever that was).

i thought this was funny, and think that there ought to be a similarly cutting barb composed about these language nazis, maybe something as simple as "go conjugate yourself" or "i will stop splitting infinitives, but first, the roo-roo!"

Lox her up and throw away the cheese!

Probably bucking for her own reality show.

I heard her order "a multi-grain bagel, hold the millet."

'You're not going to get anything unless you say butter or cheese!'

Then she really blew a gasket at the station when the jailer took her booking photo and said, "Say cheese!"

...i get kind of anally irritated when folks mount a soapbox in the cause of 'preserving correct english' in general...

I imagine the soapbox does, too.

One of my fave jokes, worth repeating because it's late and I feel like it and I don't wanna do my homework:
Me: Where's the party at?
She: Never end a sentence with a preposition.
Me: Okay. Where's the party at, b!tch?

"I imagine the soapbox does, too."

Xlnt, aw. I love it when women make jokes like that.

(Alternate ending to similar joke: "Where you from, a$$hole?")

PS It must have been the Marilyn Chambers soapbox. (Geezer alert?)

I've never been in a Starbucks. I don't drink coffee; when you order it there, do you have to specify whether it contains water?

Another crabby yankee gets in the paper . . .

*snork* at mud's "i will stop splitting infinitives, but first, the roo-roo!"

Funny comments! I don't drink coffee either, but when I've got a hot chocolate there, I do dislike the sizes. Why is the smallest size called "tall"? That's just annoying.

I think Dave Barry wrote something about that, too.

Exactly, KL. I discovered today that at Peet's (far better than Starbuck's), if you say "tall," you get a small. But I forgive them, and not just because the baristess remembered my name ;-).

This seems to be, from a non New Yorker, that it was a case of two New York attitudes clashing head to head. Geese people. Step back and relax a bit.

But here’s something to think about:
To use language changes language. No language stays static as long as it is being used. Linguistically that is.
Starbucks is in business, therefore it makes money by selling its products not by being control freaks about words.

Why would they want to buy coffee from somebody who is not from Earth anyway?

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