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April 23, 2014

G2: Heat 101, Charlotte 97: LeBron's 32 lifts escape to 2-0 series lead; plus Arison's bravado, Heat's Game of Thrones, Jose Fernandez chases history & more

1) It is WEDNESDAY, APRIL 23. King Sport unleashes its 2014 schedule in an NFL Network show tonight. It's much ado about not much considering teams' opponents already are known, and tonight just attaches dates. 2) Record Store Day just passed. Support your local indie music shop. Long live vinyl! 3) In The Previous Blogpost (ITPB): Heat-Charlotte preview and Game 1, Typepad issues hold blog hostage & more. 4) Join us on Twitter @gregcote.

Blog note about recent issues: You know how you never really stop to appreciate how good you feel until you're sick? I go forth with renewed appreciation for the simple act of being able to post in this blog whenever I wish. That was taken away for several recent days as Typepad fought denial-of-service cyber attacks. Thanks for the patience and understanding, all.

G2: HEAT 101, CHARLOTTE 97: NARROW ESCAPE AS LEBRON NETS 32: LeBron James' game-high 32 points lifted Miami tonight in a narrow escaoe for a 2-0 series lead. Chris Bosh had 20 including some clutch shots late. Dwyane Wade was off offensively (4-for-10 shooting, 15 points) but had a victory-sealing steal with 1.2 seconds left. A very hard foul against James by Josh McRoberts with just under a minute left was not called a flagrant but will be subject to league review and possible discipline. Maybe that play is what is needed to fire up the Heat, which has not shown its best or most intense effort these first two games of the postseason. ..... Game 2 Heat Players of the Game: 1. James, 2. Bosh, 3. Wade (edging the early spark of Mario Chalmers). ..... Original post: Tonight's Game 2 of the Heat-Charlotte first-round series is the 100th home playoff game in Heat history. (Hallmark make a card for that?) More 1aa1aheatchaimportant, it's likely to be the stage for Miami taking 2-0 series command following that 99-88 opening win on Sunday and before 1aa1ag2heatchathe series swings up to North Carolina for Game 3 Saturday night. Mario Chalmers (shin) is game-time decision for Miami tonight. More significantly, Bobcats star Al Jefferson (foot) says he'll play but surely will be limited. Charlotte is 13-4 following losses since mid-January, but a far weightier 17-game sample is that Miami has won 17 in a row over Charlotte including five this season. Dwyane Wade's continued progress will be a watch-point again tonight after an encouraging and efficient 23-point game in the opener. He referred to himself Tuesday as still "working my way back." It'll also be interesting to see if James Jones' heroics off the bench in Game 1 (12 points in 14 minutes) was a one-off thing or portends a steady rotation role.

Heat Postseason MVP Standings (through 1 game): Entering Game 2 tonight: Dwyane Wade 3 points; LeBron James 2; James Jones 1. (We name 'Heat 3 Stars' after every playoff game and award points on 3-2-1 basis).

HEAT OWNER SORT OF GUARANTEES RETURN OF BIG 3, ALMOST!: Well, he did. Sort of. Not that he can be sure, really. So this might be big news, or it might not be news at all. Welcome to Journalism 1aa1amickya2014, where sometimes news can be a casual aside in a Tweet, and sometimes it can be Micky Arison, on ESPN Radio Monday, answering, "100 percent," when host Dan Le Batard asked the Heat's owner for a percentage likelihood "this thing stays together next season." (Dan didn't say what he was referring to, but all know This Thing meant the Big 3 era). Micky (pictured far right with Pat Riley) could have said "we're hopeful" or some other vaguary but he took Le Batard's bait with the one percentage that sounds like all but a guarantee. The one problem: Whatever Micky thinks in April is trumped by whatever LeBron James thinks and decides this summer. Clearly nothing about this is 100 percent, but I don't think Arison is far off in his optimism. If Miami wins a third straight NBA title it almost guarantees the Big 3 stays intact. If Miami falls short I think the likeliest scenario is that the Big 3 all extend for one more season with the option to test free agency in 2015. I'd put that likelihood at a solid, um, 78.4 percent.

Heat = Lannisters in NBA Game of Thrones: I don't watch HBO's Game of Thrones. But I know many do, and may enjoy this piece drawing parallels between the popular show and the 2014 NBA playoffs. Pat Riley is cast as Tywin Lannister and his team as the Lannisters, which must mean something to somebody.

 

1aa1ajoshmcrBobcats enlist Jesus, fail anyway: The Charlotte Bobcats, who ran like hell from the depravity of South Beach after their Game 1 loss, fell in the opener despite Jesus playing for the team. And on Easter no less! (I'm surprised this was not a bigger national story, and thanks to Twitter follower @mancard1 for pointing it out to me). Jesus, pictured right, scored 15 points in the 99-88 Miami win while playing under the earthly name "Josh McRoberts."

MARLINS POSITIVITY: Miami is 10-11 right now after Jose Fernandez's 14-strikeout gem last night, but only six teams in MLB have a better run-differential than the Marlins' plus-12. As for Fernandez's dominance, see The List directly below.

THE LIST: KID K, JOSE FERNANDEZ: Fernandez so far in his young career averages 10.307 strikeouts per 9 innings pitched. The only two pitchers in history to average more are Randy Johnson (10.610) and Kerry Wood (10.317). How Fernandez ranks in strikeouts-per-inning vs. the eight pitchers with 500-plus career strikeouts for the Marlins:

Pitcher                K's-per-Inning    Strikeouts / Innings

Jose Fernandez       1.145             234 / 204.1

Josh Beckett            0.997             607 / 609.0

Josh Johnson          0.908             832 / 916.2

A.J. Burnett            0.882              753 / 853.2

Anibal Sanchez       0.851              676 / 794.1

Ryan Dempster       0.827             628 / 759.2

Ricky Nolasco         0.817             1001 / 1225.2

Dontrelle Willis       0.740              757 / 1022.2

Brad Penny             0.729             570 / 781.2

YES, MEBRAHTOM KEFLEZIGHI IS AN AMERICAN: The Boston Marathon ran in peace Monday one year after 1aa1amebkthe terrorist bombings -- a triumph of American resolve and spirit -- and, fittingly, in the storybook style sports so often delivers, an American man won for the first time since 1983. The American is named Mebrahtom "Meb" Keflezighi, and you could almost hear a million Americans snorting, "What!? That's no American!" Well, Meb emigrated from his native Eritrea in 1987 at age 12. (I know. Eritrea sounds like the dog in Scooby Doo mispronouncing a word, but it's a small country in the horn of Africa). Anyway, Keflezighi is now 38, living and raising a family in San Diego, and a U.S. citizen. His is a very American story, and a particularly sweet one for this year's Boston race. Congrats, Mebster!

R.I.P., RUBIN (HURRICANE) CARTER, 1937-2014: He was the former middleweight boxer who was framed, wrongly convicted of murder and spent 19 years in prison before his conviction was overturned. He died this week in Toronto. His story was the subject of the Bob Dylan song, "Hurricane," which we offer below. This is not Dylan singing (sorry), but is briefer than the original, includes lyrics (some adult language) and well-represents the tale.

 

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So pirates attacked the SS Cote and others, demanding ransom, eh?! Perhaps if Tom Hanks were to gain an additional 60 lbs, could he credibly portray our blog's captain.

Not American born. Not that there is anything wrong with that but it's a bit misleading. I remember the guy winning in 83' think his name was Greg and before that Bill Rogers won 4 Boston Marathins thought we had a repeat but that isn't likely to happen again soon. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

testing , testing ..1234, 1234...

are we up and running again kids?...

Born here, or there, just superfluous technicalities of little significance. Exemplified by non-American born: Keanu Reeves, Joaquin Phoenix, Kiefer Sutherland, Amy Adams, Gene Simmons and Tommy Lee. Yet no one would ever confuse Nicole Kidman of being anything but 100% Australian, though being born in the good-ole U. S. of A.

this whole chit with the blog would have been prevented if Cote's computer guy was a Cuban republican.

Every liberal weenie in America complained of Bush "torturing" the masterminds of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Interesting that I didn't hear a single liberal weenie complain about Clinton and Reno gassing innocent children at Waco.

Moral equivalence?

And then allowing them all to die in an inferno.

tennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn huttttttttt commies

Dr Stangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worry and Love the Bomb

Now playing on Directv Channel 568

Do go easy on the pure grain, Sir.

Group Capt. Lionel Mandrake: Uh, Jack, Jack, listen... tell me, tell me, Jack. When did you first... become... well, develop this theory?

Ah tried to zabotage you infidel gringos

Where is the Earth Day hype Greg? I'm disappointed a journalist isn't promoting Earth Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Einhorn

The originator of Earth Day. Fact

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin

Earth Day was originated in US to celebrate Lenin's birthday. Fact

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Inconvenient_Truth

Intellectually kaput & socially retarded, Al Gore tries to press an agenda. Fact

Global Warming alarmist are better known as "Watermelons",,, Green on the outside, Red on the inside.

Dolphins should trade up for another DE-OLB hybrid. You can never have enough pass rushers that play special teams.

The Dukes-Ter is in rare form today...always entertaining.

Folks good for an American citizen winning the Boston Marathon but the larger point is that no US Born runner has won in 31 years. Cote can celebrate all he wants and good on that runner but the larger issue is that it still isn't an American sport. Not that I care about marathoning but it bears mentioning despite the accomplishment. Greg Meyer was the last born in Grand Rapids, MI.

ah, back to normal; right wing loonies and all..
ragging on obamacare.. conveniently forgetting nixon invented it.. dummies all of you.
excited about the heat! our only championship organization. go heat!

Posted by: (the real) david in los angeles | April 23, 2014 at 12:00 AM

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As if being the "real" david from Los Angeles merits any sort of significant recognition.
You're (In Los Angeles", and yet you say "OUR" only Championship organization, regarding the Heat. Interesting juxtaposition of reality you inhabit.

BTW, Liberals are the dummies, as exemplified by Moe (The resident of the White House), Larry, (Frankenstein, our uber wealthy by marriage never worked a day in his life Secretary of State), and..saving the best for last, CURLY, played by none other than the Vice President of the USA, a man who never met a malaprop he didn't choose to utter.

Right Wing loonies rule here dave Dolphins 10-6 next year.

Jose Fernandez was on last night, 8 innings , 14 K's, no walks and gave up three hits..just dominating..was toying with Los Bravos out there.

David...what's with this love affair with Obi?...

OC, back in the swamp. Almost bought the farm in Houston as some idiot lane changed into me on I-10. Close call, no problems.

"If at first you don’t succeed, lie, lie again."

david, 'cuse me? Why didn't they call it Nixoncare? So your saying Obi's signature legacy isn't original? It was Nixon's & Romney's? Obi has shown what it takes to be a great President right? Obi has accomplished many feats, world peace, oceans receding, polar bears have more ice to play on, everyone has health insurance free & it doesn't cost the taxpayers a nickle more, transparent government. All this & he's just so cool too. Wow.

Cote, not surprised this site crashed. Wading through all the crap trying to download just to post a comment is BS. Got some BS - akamaihd... trying it's BS everytime I get on here.

Dolphins comment:
Could the Dolphins trade the #19 overall pick, go later in the first round or out of the 1st round all together & still get what they need? Talking heads claim this draft has plenty O linemen in first 2 round that are NFL ready. Miami got Branden Albert in free agency, which is comparable to trading up for a top tier LT in this draft. Trading this years #19 overall for someones #2 this year & #2 in 2015 would be a wise move. They could draft a MLB & G or RT in rd 2, additional O lineman in Rd 3, possibly bring back McKinney for this season at RT. Your first tier $ is already spent at LT, WR, DE (Jordan), DT (Starks & Odrick), CB (Grimes). Consideration has to be made at team's cap situation for the next 3 years.

Another. DC Coyle has proven in Cinci & Miami that he knows how to develop DB's. I don't think the improved play of Nolan Carroll, Jimmy Wilson & the whole unit overall was just the players coming into their own 2013 on their own. Expect Jamar Taylor (100% healthy) or Will Davis to be ready come week 1.

Good observation Jimbo int numbers were vg last year.

this is an excellent NFL draft site:

http://walterfootball.com/draft2014.php

FZB,

i am sure the marlins and their fans are a little more comfortable now that your primo is back on track after two disastrous outings. the young man, when on, is unhitable. are they ever gonna let him pitch a complete game?

FZB, people who love OBI are people who need something for free. If you didn't have a job and he gave you free money, "Cashing!" If you didn't have insurance and he gave you free insurance, "Cashing!" If you went out and bought more house than you could afford and put nothing down and now you're under water and he gave you a modified loan to free your debt, "Cashing!" If even with the mortgage modification you're still a deadbeat and they finally foreclose on your ass, and he forgave the debt that you still owe after the foreclosure sale and the bank who loaned the dough gets screwed and the deadbeat gets a free ride, "Cashing!"

So when these ass clowns who are getting fat on my dime and the dimes of the 53% who are actually paying taxes go to the polls the ringing sound that you hear is their pockets full of my coins going "Cashing!" as they pull Obi's lever or the lever for another brain dead Democratic candidate.

"Democracy will end when people learn that they can vote themselves free money."

Benjamin Franklin

Jimbo, what people like Dapper Dave can't understand or don't want to understand is simply this, this past year the United States Government took in the largest haul of total taxes in the history of the nation. Let me say that again, when adding all the taxes that go to Washington DC from all sources every year, the haul for 2013 was a record, and yet we're still running a multi-trillion dollar deficit!

There is one simple rule in economics, "You can't lose money every year and make it up in volume."

"Democracy will end when people learn that they can vote themselves free money."

They have and they do.

The takers in this country now outnumber the producers. Our system is doomed to failure because of a lack of responsibility on the part of our citizenry to take care of themselves when they are able.

Richard Nixon offers a flawed health care plan in the early 70s that most Republicans and all Democrats opposed. Obama adopts it and that somehow makes it a good plan. Only in the empty cavity that is called the liberal mind.

Woodcock, What really gets me is I paid over 10 Gs in taxes this past year and I got 284 dollars back for a tax return,I go to a resturant the other day and I over heard a server saying she's getting back 7 thousand dollars because she has 4 Kids and said she only made 10 thousand last year only working part time....
What a Country..

NFL schedule much ado about nothing? No way I look forward to it's release yearly. Most fans do as well I think especially for travel and planning purposes. It's way more exciting then an "American Citizen" winning the marathon.

There are still indie music shops? Where?

Liberals are too stupid and/or stubborn to recognize facts. They lie so much that even they believe it. The parasites living off the working class just keeps growing and voting for the democraps. Not much of a future awaits the young.

what up guys, a couple of things..

until we stop being a nation of "Takers" and become a "nation of do'ers" we will continue to be in the mess we are in..

draft talk..I'm of the opinion (as you all know) that the Dolphins HAVE to take more than one offensive lineman in this draft, I don't mind if its not with our numero uno if a special offensive or defensive player is sitting there at 19th but the O Line has to be the priority here.

now, I wouldn't mind seeing a big physical receiver plus a MLB and a big bruising back somewhere in there.

and OC...Barry Jackson wrote this on his blog.

### Defensive tackle: Don’t rule out Pittsburgh’s Aaron Donald, whom Kiper slots 14th and calls “the most disruptive defensive player in the nation last year.” He had 11 sacks and 28 tackles for loss in 2013.

just like I said..I'm not saying is going to happen but if the guy is there the Dolphins will consider him.

ps--OC / Jimbo..how was the meeting, do tell..hehe

Kiper has Miami taking Mosley at 19 which is a ok with me. This big physical # 1 WR myth needs to be debunked now it's the most overrated belief in the NFL. You can win without one.

FZ I think Miami will take an offensive lineman in the second Round. It is weird that they are looking at so many WR's. Hickey (and Philbin) must not like to leave any stones unturned. If they went WR at 19 it would surprise me but not totally seems we have been given advance notice of the possibility.

Yes the meeting details my guess is OC ordered a latte skim milk and Jimbo a large iced coffee cream and sugar.

I think maybe hopefully someday we all can get together somewhere..now that would be neat.

Your problem Anti is that you don't have Jewish representation. Big mistake. You do know that CASH is always king, right? And the mere sight of it being stacked on a Jewish accountants desk after he's finished with the preliminary tax return is always good for a few extra thousands in refunds......Please tell me that you do get a refund every year, Anti, I don't want to hear that you show up there and sit quietly as Head Heb ace accountant Sid Silverman does his magic on the computer. That's the clown way to do your taxes. The mensch way is as soon as Sid's secretary escorts you to Sid's office and asks you if she can get you some water or coffee that's when you say, "Yea, both, and I'll take anything else that you have." Normally that's all they have at a Jewish accountant's office the cheap Costco brand 6 ounce bottles of "filtered water" and if it's a Beverly Hills type accountant maybe some cheap Folgers, but you still ask for both and let the broad know that if by a miracle Sid went nuts and brought in bagels that you'll take one of those as well. In the event that they offer you a bagel forget about asking for a cream cheese schmear, Sid wouldn't even have free schmear for Moses himself. Then you turn and even before you say what's up Sid, you loudly state, "I gotta get at least FIVE TO SEVEN GS MORE THAN I GOT BACK LAST YEAR, SID!"

Just remember, Anti, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

Now, son, if you don't have good Heb representation or worst yet you're doing the taxes yourself then disregard my advice, 'cause Son, you are screwed, blew'd, and tattoo'd!

Too funny to read a bunch of failures talk about how everyone's "taking" from them. Hey jerkoffs, you leeches don't contribute jack shit to society with your measly taxes and you're probably all collecting social security your geriatric selves!

These left loonies would love nothing more than to be the cream in the Oreo cookie and sandwiched between Harry Reed and Nancy Pukelosi.

Woodcock-Not only a jewish accountant, but if you ever need a top surgeon, or top dr. make sure you get a jewish doctor. My experience with my wifes problem, led me to the top surgeon at Mt.Sini hospital in NYC.He in turn led me to the top chemo dr.for her. And this from an irishman.

Big Baby- Agree with you about the NFL schedule tonight. All my future plans for this fall and winter are on hold untill I get it tonight. My wife will make any plans around the Pats schedule.

Fraud Alert Fraud Alert Fraud Alert

Fernando = (the real) david in los angeles

disclaimer...this clown Fernando ain't me for sure.

No shit, there was an intelligent thought in that comment, obviously not you.

Naples I am hoping to catch a Dolphins game in Miami this season and bring my son the Patriot fan to his first NFL game. Hoping timing matches vaca plans. I know you still do that training camp tour too I think you are a busy man.

Fernando and intelligent thought is an oxymoron as is Fernando without the oxy

My son the Patriot fan said he might root for the Dolphins! Depending on who they play of course.

Naples, I have so many Jewish friends. They are the salt of the earth, buddy. While all these fools have been hating for eons they have been progressing and moving forward. You're damn right, bro.


Conundrum: something that is puzzling or confusing .
Here are six conundrums of socialism in the United States of America:

1. America is capitalist and greedy - yet half of the population is subsidized.

2. Half of the population is subsidized - yet they think they are victims.

3. They think they are victims - yet their representatives run the government.

4. Their representatives run the government - yet the poor keep getting poorer.

5. The poor keep getting poorer - yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.

6. They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries.


And that, my friends, pretty much sums up the USA in the Age of Morons, Moochers and marxist's.

this dude Fernando sure looks like an liberal asswipe to me...

not that there is anything wrong with it..hehe

Cockster, My wife is jewish..............


:(............

Anti...the missus being jewish could either be very good...or very bad..lol

Anywho Anti...any chance I can borrow one of your "gamma rays" for a little bit..I gott's some bizznet to take care..

BB..the Fish open against the cheat-triots at home this year..come on down to the 305 garontee you"ll have a good time...

The new NFL schedule looks great. We start with NE at home. The last week we finish with the Jets at home. Nice.

That's OK Anti. Nothing wrong with going out to dinner every night, or the big inheritance, and as you get older you'll start to lose your hearing and the nagging won't be as bad. The one thing that you have to live with are the shitty and infrequent blow jobs. Sorry bro, but you do have that big payday coming. Keep your eye on the prize, Anti.

Boys, the move this year is to attend a Fins game together. Especially if we could get that ass wipe Kazaam to pick up the tab and limo us all to the game. The chances of that are slim to none. I think I'll keep my subscription to DirecTV and Sunday Ticket for another year.

A lot of boards are mocking Eric Ebron and C.J. Mosley for the Dolphins in the first round. If either are available I would not be surprised to see Miami pass on the OL and take Ebron or Mosley. Both would be great additions to the team.

Tommy-Son... I don't think Ebron will be there when we pick but CJ Mosley could be..both great prospects.

RUSHING THINGS, DON"T YOU THINK?

saying that mr. stanton is headed for cooperstown at this point in his career seems to be a little premature; let me know when the guy gets to 350 HRs and the phenom pitcher gets to 200 wins before talking about getting to cooperstown, unless taking the NY thruway north out of NYC is the way to get to the HOF.
these are the stats of my favorite pitcher, who started off faster than the marlin phenomm and he ain't sniffing cooperstown depite being a great pitcher and in addition a more than adequate hitter and the best fielding hurler of his era:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valenfe01.shtml

ADD 5-1 !!!

ferrnando's postseason record and you can see what a great competitor the guy was. you had to be in LA for the playoff series against houston and in lA for his incredible 81 start to really understand what a great ballplayer this fellow was:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valenfe01.shtml

check out his 1980 record of 2-0, 17+ innings and a 0.00 ERA that kept the dodgers close to houston, who evetually went to the league championship. and his .200 BA doesn't tell how he could handle the bat- bunt properly, hit behind the runners... a really incredible pitcher till he hurt his shoulder. his game 3 in the 81 series was an indicator of how tough this guy was; fron down something like 4-1 eraly against the yankess he found his rhythm and got the dodgers going against the yankees down 2 games to none.

hey shad

do you think 165 wins 87 losses 2.76 ERA 2396 Strikeouts along with 4 no hitters one of which is a perfect games gets a player into the HOF today? i honestly doubt it. seems there is too much focus 3000 hits, 500+ home runs and 300 wins.

boy the idiots are out in full force today.. i was busy being a liberal and (not) working in the studio with the legendary joe perry or i'd have responded sooner.

"You're (In Los Angeles", and yet you say "OUR" only Championship organization, regarding the Heat. Interesting juxtaposition of reality you inhabit." -IMA

are you really that stupid?
i was born and raised in miami, genius, and lived there for my 1st 29 years.
an "interesting juxtaposition of reality"?
not quite, unless you find a native miamian who lives in los angeles but still roots for all his childhood teams interesting.
and if you do, i recommend porn.

"The takers in this country now outnumber the producers."
agreed, and that is because ignorant tools like you guys support republicans who favor corporations doing whatever they want; namely moving all manufacturing to overseas and changing monopoly laws making corporations bigger and bigger, all while paying less in taxes than ever before.

"Not much of a future awaits the young." zulu

wrong again. you old Dbags who supported tax cuts for the wealthy and putting 2 wars on a credit card will be dead; things will already be better when that happens and don't worry, we'll pay off your wars, too..

great win tonight; charlotte gets my respect. they have a lot of fight and are playing very well.
it's unfortunate they are playing the best team in the NBA..

one MORE thing, for you old idiots who can't remember:

i have not, do not and will NEVER POST as anyone other than (the real) david in los angeles.
ok?
just because, on occasion, people who actually USE their brains come on our little party blog and call you ignorant racist geriatrics out DOESN'T MEAN it's me posting.
you'll know when i am posting, trust me.
you always do.. :)

Tough competition for the Fish next year right out of the gate the first 6 games. Three games at home where they will probably be the underdog (Pats, Chiefs and Packers) and three games on the road that will be very competitive (Bills, Raiders and Bears). 3-3 the first six games will be a good start and keep them in the hunt for the PLAYOFFS!

shadow Fernando was good but he flamed out a bit early. 81-86' look real good after that average. Amazing he stuck around for 17 years I hadn't remembered that. Testament to him sticking with it and being effective despite being less dominant.

Tom 300 wins is likely a thing of the past pitching is too specialized now wins aren't as valued. Even 250 would be incredible game seems to have changed more sabermetric. Curt Schilling will get some votes for HOF he has 216 wins. Shadow want to talk about a postseason record Curt was 11-2 with a 2.23 lifetime. That is some serious dominance.

Tom curious who is that pitcher you posted the stat line on? My guess would be David Cone.

Tom,

the baseball writers tend to be looking for longevity and integrity. 500/300 make a player a lock for cooperstown, but look how long it took for bert blyleven, 4th all-time in strikeouts i believe, to get in with 295 wins (i think). the 300 win barrier got don sutton into the hall, but me thinks his record is lacking- no cy young awards and he stuck around too long after the dodgers gave him the heave ho and he went to the astros and then every other club in baseball. the dodgers took him back (and i had him on my rotisserie team) and he could only get to 4 2/3 innings mmany times in his quest for the magical 300. let us take a look at sutton's rap sheet:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/suttodo01.shtml

one 20 win season, lotta years 17-19 playing on very good dodger teams, and led the league once: in games started. as mentioned longevity got ole big ears sutton (before he had them pinned back) into cooperstown and even with 300 wins i wouldn't have voted for him, and i was in LA for the best years of his life.

Big Baby

Those stats belong to HOFer Sandy Koufax. Probably the greatest pitcher in the history of baseball for 4 years, 1963-1966 (97-27 with an ERA of about 1.80). Sadly arthritis ended his career at 30.

RE: sutton

overooked his ONE YEAR leadin the league in ERA, 2.20 in his last season in dodger blue. post season he was very good in the league series but muy mediocre in the world series. here is bert blyleven, a real example of longevity and very good in the postdeason:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/blylebe01.shtml

don sutton was an arrogant SOB, bert blyleven a good guy who shouldn't havehad to wait 14 years to get into the HOF.

agree on Blyleven seems there was too much debate about him getting in.

I agree shad. HOF should be for dominance in an era not sticking around forever getting average stats. That's why Koufax is in the HOF. The HOF has been watered down to include too many good players but nowhere near all-time greats.

MR. Woodcock,

very nice words that you, Big Baby and the others posted concerning hebe doctors, lawyers and accountants. very motivated scholastically and the results are evident in the amount of "professionals" the tribe can claim. the new breed of aggressive students are the asians, methinks, but i hope that for tyhe greater good they don't leave the family restaurants for law and med schools- who is gonna be around to make all those incredible dim sum delicacies! when i was introduced to chinese brunch, i stopped eating chinese food at night and opted for a little ganja before attacking those incredible delicacies served in the better dim sum palaces in monterey park, with an occasional return to grandview gardens in chinatown, where i tasted dim sum for the first of many times.

Dim sum, shadow your on to something. Had it once in Seattle & was excellent.

Shad, hard work, education, family, and a strong community will never go out of fashion. The Asians have many of the same qualities that make Jews successful.

Had Tommy started Valenzuela on the deciding playoff game in his rookie year instead of a "more proven" starter who's name escapes me now the Dodgers would have gone to the World Series in his rookie year. Whomever started got lit up and Fernando came in relief and was unhitable but the damage was already done.

Joe Perry? Never heard of him. Is he related to the Miami Henry Flagler Elementary Perrys? Is he related to Mitch and Robert, Dapper?

The amazing thing about Valenzuela is that he pitched well into his 50's with the Dodgers. I used to laugh when Vin used to say that Fernando was 21 years old. He was actually in his 30's when he came up with the Dodgers. The decline that Tom is talking about happened because he got old not because the talent went away or that he succumbed to injuries. When he came up the Dodgers thought that he was 20 years old but Mike Brito who the Dodgers assigned to chaperon him in his first year in the bigs used to buy him a case of beer every night for a guy who could have walked into any bar in Los Angeles and never had to pay for a drink.

david love Joe Perry a legend he grew up a few short miles from me. Even liked the Joe Perry Project back in the day great musician for a long long time.

Joe Perry? Does he play the kazoo?

Wassup, Dave!

No he plays guitar. Very well in fact. Doesn't sound like noise at all. His band is in the Rock HOF.

Never heard of him.

BB, isn't there a rule to get into the HOF that you have to have at least one hit? Are you sure this guy is in the HOF? Maybe he just parks cars there. Joe Perry, eh, I'll have to look him up. Are you sure that you're not thinking of Perry Como? Now there was a guy who could sing. "It's impossible for Dapper Dave to have a clue, it's just impossible....."

I like that Perry Como/ David Bowie duet Little Drummer Boy otherwise Como is for men around 90 years old. Joe Perry is a member of Aerosmith. Here is Como and Ziggy a classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF_kSCEocQk

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