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February 14, 2014

Your final verdict: How serious was Bullygate? Last day to vote!; plus Heat in All-Star Game, NBA Mount Rushmore results, Olympic farting & more


1) It is SUNDAY, FEBRUARY 16. Click on Random Evidence for today's latest Sunday notes-column package, leading with Dolphins' Bullygate fallout. 2) 
In The Previous Blogpost (ITPB): NBA Mount Rushmore poll, lunch with Dennis Hickey, Sean Taylor's dad, more Richie, show dogs, Shaun White chokes & more. 3) Follow us on Twitter @gregcote and also on Instagram, Vine and Facebook.

My Bullygate column: Click on Over, For Now for my column off the NFL/Ted Wells report.

NFL BULLYING REPORT IMPLICATES INCOGNITO, 2 TEAMMATES: The NFL independent Bullygate investigation led by lawyer Ted Wells concluded yesterday with the report revealed. Click on NFL Dolphins 1aa1abullyReport for the full, 140-page report, but be warned: Some of it is explicit in terms of vulgar language. The broadest conclusion: That Richie Incognito, along with fellow offensive linemen Mike Pouncey and John Jerry, "engaged in a pattern of harrassment" of not only Jonathan Martin but also an unnamed second young lineman and an assistant trainer. In effect, the report finds that Martin was telling the truth and that Incognito was the ringleader of workplace bullying. This conlcudes the Dolphins' three-month internal ordeal, except for possible repercussions to come from the club or the NFL. OK, we have Wells' long-awaited verdict. Now it's time for your's. How important did you find this entire controversy? Take a dip in our poll and say why.

THE LIST: HEAT ALL-STAR SCORING LEADERS: Entering tonight's NBA All-Star Game in New Orleans that will feature LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, seven Miami players in franchise history have combined for 24 all-star appearances. The players (and number of ASGs for Heat) are: Wade (9), James, Bosh, Shaquille O'Neal and Alonzo Mourning (3 each), Tim Hardaway (2) and Anthony Mason (1). The Top 10 ASG individual scoring performances by a Heat player:

1. James, 36 points, 2012

2. James, 29, 2011

3. Wade, 28, 2010

4. Wade, 24, 2012

5. Wade, 21, 2013

6. Wade, 20, 2006

7. James, 19, 2013

8. Wade, 18, 2009

9. O'Neal, 17, 2006

10. Mourning, 15, 2000

Note: Wade in 2010 was only Heat player to win All-Star MVP award.

ON NBA's ULTIMATE MOUNTAINTOP: JORDAN, MAGIC, BIRD AND LEBRON: More than 2,000 votes rolled in from 40 states and 21 countries for our NBA Mount Rushmore poll in the last blogpost, and making the mountain were Michael Jordan (23.2 percent), Magic Johnson (14.4%), Larry Bird (11.5%) and LeBron James (11.3%). The "second mountain" goes to Bill Russell (10.6%), Wilt Chamberlain (9.4%), Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (8.4%) and Oscar Robertson (4.2%). The poll emanating from a Miami-based blog naturally boosted LeBron's cause, although I would note that 51% of the overall votes came from outside Florida, where the largest concentration of Heat fans might be expected. The BIg Four were the same in non-Florida voting as well.

FARTING: ALWAYS FUNNY: Ever wonder how it would be if an Olympic figure skater was audibly farting throughout his routine? (Who hasn't!) Well, the good folks at Ghost Cow Films have your answer. Click HERE for a funny 1-minute vid.

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The Wells report is out and it's 148 pages long. It's undeniable that there was a culture of harassment and bullying in the locker room and it isn't close. Sorry guys it's like I said it would be. Go read it. I'll post to new blogpost as soon as Cote updates it. A very troubling situation but really long term it may only affect Pouncey and what he needs to do to change. Along with the coaching staff and GM being on the same page with new policies.

http://nfldolphinsreport.com/

Jim Turner has a good track record as a coach but he should be fired no way he didn't see this happening.

Being friends with Aaron Hernandez hasn't helped Mike Pouncey. Just release John Jerry at this point. Pouncey has a lot of apologizing to do to the organization.

Anyone defending Richie now (Woodcock, Tom, Jumbo, david, FZB) after reading this? If you do you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I rather have 5 Incognito's on my offensive line than 5 pussy's like J Martin....so Martin quit because he could not take the harrassment?..yeah the man is a coward and a pussy.

This report shows that Ted Wells is an ass and that guys like Cote are even bigger ass holes.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/report-dolphins-39-line-coach-161000378--nfl.html

You obviously didn't read the report. Don't comment util you do it makes you look bad.

YOu don't seem to get it still do you, BB. This report was written before Wells was even named. This is a complete white wash and in line with the politically correct horse crap going on in America today. Did you really think that the NFL was going to come out and say that Martin was a pussy and in an NFL locker room guys savage cowardice? Get real bro. Wells report isn't worth the paper it's printed on. This is Wells putting a stamp on the results that the NFL wants. Now they throw a few guys under the bus and move on. The only accurate report about what happened is a compilation of the opinions of the Dolphins players and so far their opinion and the opinions of the league contained in this white wash produced under the name Ted Wells are diametrically opposed.

"The Wells Report" is nothing but a disclaimer for the NFL....
The NFL got popped a new A-hole with the whole "concussion" thing this year & the last thing they need is more bad press saying they are a league full of bully's. So they will say it was limited to those 3 guys but none of that "Locker room behaviour" goes on in the rest of the NFL -- BUNCH OF PUSSIFIED HYPOCRITES...

Honestly if you had a team & had to pick an offensive linemen between Martinique & Incognito...You would take Ritchie every day & twice on Sunday...

Our society has been turned bi-polar - NFL perfect example.....
"Go out & rip that guys head off & chit down his neck so our running back can run over him!!"
"But after you push him around all over the field & make him look like a little girl - dont you dare call him a f@g!!"
YOU CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS!!!! Especially when your dealing with football players & not miss manners.
Does the lion apolgize do the slower gazelle ?
Does the shark say sorry to the helpless seal-pup?
It is a rough game made for rough guys -- this is the natural order of things & it will not change!!!

The truth will come out under cross examination in a court of law when and if Martin sues.

I get it Woodcock. You don't obviously. Just hope we don't lose any draft picks over this mess.

Vince Lombardi is rolling in his grave....

BB

I think it is you who does not get the "reality".....

We will not lose pix over this...

but honestly even if we do - does it really matter ?? I know the blind monkeys throwing darts on draft day in the dark room don't care.
I.E. - see fins draft history last 10 years...

relax BB..we are not losing any draft picks..gezz

and this just in...Martin is still a pussy and a coward.

FZ - (picture trebek on jeopardy)

We are checking with the judges........

Yes we will accept that answer, however the correct pronunciation is Martinique....

Even if we lose any picks - all it would do is delay the draft picks real career goals - kind of like:

John Avery - Parking Lot attendant
Cecil Collins - Jailbird
Pat White - Baseball player ??
Jamar Fletcher - ???

& the list goes on..... as does the employment of the blind monkeys...

Ross sucks. The Dolphin players are hostages and fans are victims...

Time to break out Tommy's head in the sand image for our friend BB in Chowdville......

erscuse me..Martinique.

BB...like Orange said, football is a rough sport, there is no place for softies, Martinique didn't stand up for himself, he is a coward.

if you ask any player around the league if they had to choose between those two..I say 99.99% will say they would rather play with Incognito.

Martin was a victim of severe racial and sexual taunting he might be a sensitive guy but that is not acceptable behavior. If any of you think it is then none of you are worth debating.

There goes BB threatening to take his ball and go home....Come on BB stay around and defend your position. You really believe that the NFL was going to come out on the side of Ritchie and the rest of the players and coaches in the Dolphins' locker room?

Wow, hey BB, I have a beautiful bridge in Brooklyn that I can let you have for a song......

BB

C'mon man -- As we cubans say - "estas tapando el sol con un dedo" - Translation - "You are blocking out the sun with one finger."

Look at the reality - not the stuff they can put on paper - Which leads to another great cuban saying - "El papel aguanta todo" - Translation - "Paper can hold anything that is written on it".

If you dont think that ALL NFL locker rooms are that way then YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS NOT WORTH DEBATING...
Take off the rosy colored glasses & come back to the real world.

I just gave you my position in one sentence. All set debating people who have no understanding of basic workplace harassment situations. It's so basic but it's clearly over all your heads. Have a good day.

Boys..I can't just see it now, the NFL is going to come out with their own little rule saying that "type" of behavior" will not be tolerated and everyone will have to play nice from now on and hold hands.

yup, the pussyfication of football has begun, yup next thing we are going to hear is that there are fagg's in the NFL..hehe

easy BB..all we are saying is that an NFL locker room is totally unique and totally different than a regular work enviroment...where manhood is valued above everything else.

Gee wizz, BB, don't get upset, Naranja hasn't even dropped a Massachocha reference yet. He he.

FZB it's pretty clear you hate gays so you are out of any discussion on this topic.

Actually there are two ways to look at this Ross ownership fiasco. The first is "this is horrible this guy has royaly f***ed the storied Dolphin franchise." The second "This guy is such a media whore with celebrity owners, talking about drafting Sam and perhaps even bringing Martin back that this situation can only disintegrate into absolute absurdity which means laughs all 'round." Really every year this guy is seen as more and more of a joke by those around the league. He's not gonna pull out of the nosedive now. Lets just sit back and watch the Ross Happy Happy KABOOM Funtime Show...

oh man, but was just getting started and now I'm on time out?

sorry guys..BB just banned me from the discussion.

you can debate FZB but being homophobic just gives you no credibility. Come to think of it Woodcock you're out too this is a racial issue no credibility for you either. Maybe tom david or Jimbo can debate amongst themselves to see who wins the most insensitive person award you two already are winners.

Still like you guys just keeping it real.

Racist? I don't have a racist bone in my body, BB. I take offense to that, bro. You're just still pissed off at me because I spoke the truth about honky white wide receivers. Shame on you, bro.

You guys really surprised BB doesn't "get it"? What else is new...

You said it in your own sentence..."basic workplace"...the NFL is anything but a basic workplace...is it really that hard for you to understand that? This kind of stuff is never black and white and never what is on paper...you are as naïve on this one as you were with the Sherman thing...on it goes...

I can't wait to see even more of The Ross Happy, Happy Funtime KABOOM Show. He's more entertaining than a barrel full of monkeys...

Is there a difference between being a racist and stereotyping people based on race? Ok the latter seems more palatable if that's you then fine but it's still not great.

I hope Fins do draft Sams and bring Martin back so Dolphin QBs get killed. It just gets better and better...

Is there a difference woodcock between being racist and sterotyping people based on their race? If there is then you're the latter but still nothing to be proud of.

Ok, ok Jimmy Olsen I'll be ah more diplomatic in my posts about Boss Ross so you won't feel need to censure them. Now go back to staring at Louis Lane's clevage...

ohhmmm BB...this is NOT a racial issue.

Took me two hours to read that whole report, then opened the blog knowing full well that there would be lots of Richie @$$ lickers out there (don't take insult, consider it just locker room friendly jabs), anyway, all you Richie c%€k suckers can just deal with the knowledge that I just made your wives and girlfriends squirt on Valentines Day, as I left them screaming - OC, OC, don't leave!!!

or Lois Lane's...

OC..so should we call you OC aka the "mail-man" from now on?

wives & girlfriends squirt lol...

It's the main point of the investigation along with sexual harassment FZB.

My shoe size is 11, make the connection oh size 8s!

man..I wish Kaz was here, he would have had a field day today..

Jerry and Pouncey are both black last time I checked.

and OC..my shoe size is 4-1/2..bummer.

how long you guys think before Turner gets fired..I say maybe within the next 24 hrs..

of COURSE halliburton and other corporations are doing well; it's because obama is a centrist corporatist.
as for the media, YES, they do report the stories differently.
there is no scandal with the IRS, (the president wasn't behind it as fox assets), benghazi (there was no evidence of wrong doing on the administration and it happened 13 times when bush was president) or the other garbage fox keeps perpetrating.
there's a difference between wanting a scandal and evidence pointing to one.
my contention was to discredit tom's assertion that there's a liberal media.
that's garbage. some slants left, most of it slants right..

no evidence of wrong doing by the administration on Benghazi?..ok then.

oh good anew debate are you serious david? Most of the media slants right? Dude at least 75 percent of the media is liberal maybe more. Of course there is a liberal media.

Bhengazi was a coverup by dems because it was an election cycle. Don't be naive david.

this WHOLE thing is overblown.
and baby, if you think locker rooms with shula, lombardi, parcells, allen, gibbs, madden, noll and halas didn't have guys making racially insensitive comments you're living in a dream world.
THOSE locker rooms were ran in a way where NO PLAYER would ever take their BS to the media and throw the team under the bus.
this is, (yet again), either a reflection of coaching, or most likely, the result of a sociopath hell bent on destroying his team.
the NFL is NO MORE a typical work place environment than being in a band, or on a movie set for 5 months somewhere.
there is a bond and level of camaraderie in these situations that DO NOT EXIST in a normal workplace. stop comparing the incomparable..

OC did I ever tell you I'm friends with Debbie and I used to make her squirt while she sang Tammy...

I already said I wasn't debating the Bullygater topic any longer david my position is clear I think.

Thank GOD this report is finally out! Now everyone can see that every single allegation made by that pussy Jon Martin was blown out of proportion and that Incognito was unfairly accused.

Time to re-sign Incognito, cut Martin, and FINALLY MOVE ON to 2014!!!

Crystal.....he he.

Out - Mike Sherman. Crappy, unimaginative offense. Failure to correct the toxic environment in his offensive locker room. Responsible for Jim Turner and Chris Mosley.

Out - Jeff Ireland. Condoned, if not encouraged what he knew was going on. Fully knew the baggage Richie Incognito brought along, yet did nothing to correct it.

Out - Brian Gaine. Condoned/looked the other way.

Out - Chris Mosley. Condoned/looked the other way.

Next guy fired - Jim Turner. Why this guy hasn't been fired yet is beyond belief.

Second to next guy fired - Head Trainer O'Neill. Aware of treatment against the Asian Assistant Trainer and did nothing.

Out - Player A. Being "not tough enough" was bad enough, but being cut when you have a depleted line speaks volumes about his talent, or better, lack there of. (Note: he does get to keep his inflatable doll).

Out - John Jerry. Will not get a new contract in Miami.

Out - Richie Incognito. Too over the top. Conduct might be better accepted inside one of Jimbo's Maximum Security Prisons.

Out - Jonathan Martin. A player possessing descent enough talent, but not exceptional. Never learned, or never had the ability to combat bullies. Driven to his ultimate personal challenge when placed under the tutelage of the #1 bully in the entire NFL. One has to wonder how he ever made it so far.

50/50 chance - Mike Pouncey. Talent hard turn away, and may tilt one way or another depending on his implication/complication with the Hernandez deal.

A tragedy for a team, and an owner who continues to strive towards delivering a winning franchise, but remains totally and completely clueless.

Seems like we're the only 2 reasonable people on this blog OC.

Tony, are you referring to the Debbie at The Wild Goose?

wow OC calling out Ross, my toes are tingling.

while you are at it OC..how bout calling out Philbin for his incompetence.

I don't Ross likes what he sees in Sams. He might be the ah missing piece of this teams puzzle as it were. Oh Tammy, Tammy, Tammy's in love...

4:30 am PST start time for USA versus Russia hockey tomorrow OC set your DVR's you too woodcock you know you will.

FZB, please note that just because I take a particular position, it doesn't make me a follower and defender of everything they stad for, or represent. I will try to make it as clearly as possible.

The lesser of two evils.

As I've said before, firing Philbin and starting from scratch takes longer to win than keeping him on. I've cited team philosophy, play book, player preference, including the QB, etc., as reasons for keeping Philbin until he PROVES he can't deliver.

...and you can't get rid of the top guy, unless he sells or croaks. You'd think you would have learned this due Fidel.

...but I know you're just venting. Btw, if you check the blog's history you'd find that I've never been a fan of Dumbo.

BB and OC..here's the bottom line, Martin has mental issues and was unable to cope with the enviroment inside an NFL locker room..so he quit.

is that simple.

Nothing is that simple, FZ, it seldom is.

You didn't read the report did you?

I don't know Ross thinks etc etc etc..

Here's proof, FZ. Knowing what we now know, and you so clearly identified in Martin, would you trust the brainwork that Jeff Ireland displayed by failing to identify Martin's weakness, when he proceeded to draft him? Why would you then not question his next pick?

Tony, how many feet of snow are there now above your living room window?

You guys up there in the mighty northeast must surely be planning a Great Escape and having Charles Bronson dig up a tunnel beyond the fence line, and away from the communists ruining your various states.

Man OC, we got a storm last week with between 10-15 inches. Yesterday worst storm we've had in recent memory. Had to top 15 inches. Snow almost to top of my vehicles wheels. Amazing. Trying to motivate myself to going out and snowblowing. What's worse is it's been too cold, far too cold for anything to melt and at night snow and frozen slush feel like concrete...

Ah wife still expects to go out for her Valentine dinner. Sheese women...

Yeah, I saw the pics.

Good thing I got AWD...

Is that "all wheel drive," or "a warm dame"?

I drove to work in it yesterday wouldn't have made it without the 4WD.

look guys...here's a little story for you guys.

back in HS there were three guys that had it in for me, always harrasing me, asking me for money, pushing me around and generally making my life miserable.

this went on for about two weeks, I was scared and ashamed of myself for not standing up to them until one day I made up my mind that enough was enough, I asked my dad to borrow his car that day and I got myself a baseball bat and put it in the trunk and decided to confront the guys after school, I really didn't care or think about the consequences..sure enough I saw one of them walking alone in the hall after school and waited for him around one corner and wacked the guy on his legs and his back, I actually thought I had killed the guy and got very scared but had the common sense to call for help right away.

when the principal came over I told him my side of the story and the other kid told his side but did admit him and his two other buddies had been harrassing me, we both got suspended from school for one week but all the chit I was going through stopped.

I'm not very proud of the fact that I could have killed someone but I am proud of the fact that I took a stand when I needed to which is something Martin never did, if he would had said from the very beggining this type of crap was not going to be tolerated none of this would have happened.

and there ends my little story, sometimes you have to stand up for yourself.

Which of the two Asian trainers were harassed, OC, Ping Pong or Bong Wil Suk?

No, Woodcock, Ping Pong won the Men's (questionable) Figureskating finals this morning.

Then there's the little fact that came out of this report that everyone is glossing over, "We have TWO Asian guys working as trainers......? Just say it ain't so.

The Dolphins must have the cleanest and best ironed uniforms in the entire league.......

OC, did the report indicate that Ritchie Incognito was guilty of yelling "Flied Lice, Flied Lice." to Ping Pong when they asked what the players wanted for lunch?

FZ, you should have waited for the other two, that way you could have had a triple instead of that single.

That idiot Ross must have hired the wrong Orientals to work at the facility. Doesn't he know that it's the Chinks who do the Feng Shui?

Page 22 of the report, Woods. It's all there..."rubby rubby sucky sucky."

The way they treated Andrew McDonald was awful. The way they treated Nate Garner was worse. What they did to the Asian American trainer isn't "typical locker room stuff".

These guys are awful. What's sad is when you get to be really old and crusty like FZB and Woodcock, you can't appreciate complexity.

Is Martin soft? Yes. Should he have stood up for himself more? Yes.

Does any of that in any way excuse what Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey did? NOOOOO! It's not an either/or. I wish Martin was tougher. I doubt he has the makeup to play in the NFL long term. That does not make what these three clowns did ok. Good lord.

Jim Turner fired, Jerry cut (he sucks), Incognito gone (good riddance), Pouncey stays because he is good but he is a ticking timebomb.

Dukito..I got you covered buddy, help is on the way to keep you a little warm.

http://i.imgur.com/FDKSB.jpg

and Andrew, I'm not old..I'm only 60.

I see Martin wants to get back to playing football, well I do know the arena league is always looking for linemen.

So Andrew, let's recap your comment. Ritchie is gone because? But Pouncey gets to stay because as you say, "he's good." What kind of double standard is that, son? Based on your own standard anyone who's an all pro has carte blanche in the locker room and yet you cast aspersions on the two most complex individuals on this blog FZB and yours truly, Mr. Woodcock the Cuban Comet.

Shame, shame, shame, son.

FZB, why not take your observations further. You and many others point out the obvious in that Martin is a wuss and never learned or had the courage for standing up against bullies. Okay, so given the solution you personally used, the baseball bat, let us imagine you're that trainer. Richie and company start hoisting banana boat this, spick that...so you wait behind the hallway and blast good-ole Richie across the chest with your Reggie Jackson. How long do you think before you're picked up, arrested, fired and then sued? What options do you have? Ahhh, I hate to trouble you Mr. Incognito, bot those comments bother me. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Your only option would be to quit your job, then go off to your family trying to explain why the dehumanizing course you took served better than losing a husband to jail, family suffering and loss of any significant assets to a bully.

That's pretty old!

Seriously, though, I don't know how anyone can defend the behavior detailed in that report. You can ALSO think Martin is a wuss. That's fine. But the behavior those guys exhibited is disgusting. And not just to Martin.

Woodcock, at least with FZB I get the sense that his comments are tongue in cheek. With you, I get the sense I am talking to a horrible bigot. So don't lecture me.

I said what will happen, not what I think should happen. I'd be thrilled if they let Pouncey go. As I said, he is a ticking time bomb. But, because he is literally the only good lineman on the team, they will keep him for now.

Make that 3 reasonable people OC.

oye..I was in HS at the time..a long , long time ago in a galaxy far far away from where I am now but point well taken..here is my counter point, the trainer needed to go up the ladder to the big wheels...hey we live in America not Russia or Cuba.

I'm dying here......

3. Anniversary of the attacks on Pearl Harbor

Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey wore traditional Japanese headbands on Dec. 7, 2012 — the anniversary of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor — and jokingly threatened to harm the assistant trainer in retaliation for the attacks. The trainer, who had given them the headbands as gifts, told Martin he was upset by the comments and felt they degraded his heritage.

From the report:

“Martin, however, described this treatment to a friend shortly after he left the team. In a series of text messages, he wrote:

He treated our Asian trainer horribly
Him and others
Called him a (racial slur)
Wore kamikaze headbands on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor
Idk it’s really hard to explain
I just always felt so bad for . . .our trainer
Like. . .my teammates laughed
Other trainers laughed
It was really racist
Directly
‘Give me some water you (expletive) (racial slur)’ ”

27 inches OC and I'm not talking about my shoe size. Felt like heavy lake effect snow the kind that kills motherf***ers. They got the big Tonka trucks out today trying to find a place to put it all...

ROTFLMAO!

6. Incognito’s racial remarks to a former teammate

The report also described casual conversations Incognito had with other players. One former Dolphin player, who is unnamed, and Incognito texted about gun purchases. In the exchange, Incognito is shown joking about shooting African Americans.

From the report:

“Player B: Especially if u plan living in Arizona in the future, that’s exactly what you want
Incognito: Yea. For picking off zombies
Player B: Lol isn’t that why we own any weapons!?
Incognito: That and black people
Player B: Mmm def all black ppl

Four days later, Incognito and Player B discussed rifle scopes in text messages.

Player B: Yes. That’s a solid optic made specifically for a .308 battle rifle
Incognito: Perfect for shooting black people
Player B: Lol exactly
Player B: Or Jeff Ireland”

Sweet Jesus that would mean depleting my precious bodily fluids FZ...

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