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August 24, 2013

PS4: Tampa Bay 17, Dolphins 16 (Final): Four turnovers doom Miami in sloppy dress rehearsal, but Tannehill-led positives outweigh negatives

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PS4: TAMPA BAY 17, DOLPHINS 16: FOUR TURNOVERS HAND GAME TO BUCS: FINAL: The good news? The Miami starters won the first half, the defense generally dominated and Tannehill looked pretty sharp. (Tanny has a 98.6 passer rating with zero picks in the preseason). The bad news? Much sloppiness from a team that has played one more exhibition game than other teams. Four turnovers were the difference, and five penalties and a handful of dropped passes didn't help. The offense stalling in the red zone also was an issue. I think this can be a playoff team, but Saturday's mistakes sinking the preseason mark to 1-3 does not feather those thoughts. That record isn't the concern; the turnovers are. Coach Joe Philbin was a bit harsh afterward, saying, "We didn’t play well enough at any phase of the game to win the game." Well, the starters did, so overall I'd give the performance a modest thumbs-up based on the first half when the real team was deployed. Share your own positives, negatives and overall thoughts coming out of the game. ..... 4Q: Devlin interception in closing seconds is fourth Miami interception and ends the loss. ... Dolphs give up lead with 1:03 remaining on 12-yard Mike Glennon to David Douglas scoring pass. The Gray fumble led to the score. DEMON TURNOVERS! ... Miami's third turnover of game is a Jonas Gray fumble returned 47 yards to Dolphins 25. ... Rookie Sturgis swings in a 28-yard FG for 16-10 lead after offense hits another stone wall in red zone. ..... 3Q: Uneventful third Q other than a couple of more defensive sacks and a long look at Devlin, who was 4-for-6 for 32 yards as team weighs whether to keep a third QB. ... Starters out, reserves in for Miami to start quarter, with Pat Devlin at QB aheda of backup Matt Moore. ..... Halftime: Miami's narrow lead does not reflect its dominance, with a 3-1 margin in total yards and all Tampa's points coming off two special-teams flubs. Tannehill a pretty sharp 17-for-27, with 12 of the strikes to primary wideouts Gibson/Hartline/Wallace. Clay only one short catch off six targets in his effort to mend the tight end position. Big story might be how Lamar Miller (8-35) seems to have seized the starting RB job over Daniel Thomas (7-3). Hope starters play at least a little into the third Q. ..... 2Q: Miami regains lead 13-10 just before half on Tanny 4-yard TD pass to Gibson. Play began near midfield with a fumble recovery by Derrick Shelby. ... Nice punt return isn't fully cashed in as Miami settles for 23-yard Sturguis FG and 10-6 score. Brandon Gibson dropped a shoulda-been TD pass in end zone. ... Olivier Vernon sack forces punt, Thigpen makes amends (somewhat) with 38-yard return. ... Charles Clay with a drop, Tanny takes a coverage sack, punt. ... Bucs 10-3 on Rian Lindell 38-yard FG, set up by Thigpen's goatdom. ... Again! Thigpen with a second turnover on a punt return. Dolphins defense is dominating but mistakes are steering the game. ... Jared Odrick sack and exultant Pee-Wee Dance forces punt. Score does not reflect Miami domination thus far. ..... 1Q: Tanny ends 7-for-10 in first Q. ... Just noticed Dolphins TV announcer Jesse Agler sometimes refers to regular seaseon as "the regular year." Stop that! It's Al Michael's phrase. ... Bucs 7-3 on a 1-yard Brian Leonard run, a score made easy by that muffed punt-return turnover. Turnovers are evil! ... Dolphs force punt but muff return and give it right back after botchery by Marcus Thigpen and blocker Nolan Carroll. ... Steady, impressive opening drive but it stalls in red zone and settles for 22-yard Sturgis FG and 3-0 lead. Ryan Tannehill 6-for-8, Mike Wallace 2 catches, Lamar Miller with a 20-yard run. ..... Original post: NFL teams call their next-to-last preseason game the dress rehearsal, in which starters play longer than usual, and so tonight's visit 

1aa1bucsdolsby the Buccaneers should give Miami fans their best look yet at the Dolphins, their best gauge yet. (It'll also 1aa1ps4be the first actual look, since this is the first home exhibition). Being the home debut and with the starters playing at least a full half, you can expect an emphasis on result (on winning) that you haven't necessarily seen in the first three fake games. Miami plays Tampa in the regular season, too (Nov. 11, there), so I wouldn't expect to see the full playbook, but winning will matter, especially against an opponent Miami should be better than. Individually I'll be looking at several key areas tonight and into next week as the preseason winds down: A continued growth of chemistry between Ryan Tannehill and Mike Wallace. Charles Clay stepping up as the tight end heir to injured Dustin Keller. Performance at left tackle and stability at right guard. Lamar Miller or Daniel Thomas showing something that demands they start at running back. And somebody besides Brent Grimes standing out at cornerback. Also waiting (patiently) for top draft pick Dion Jordan to get fully beyond his shoulder issues and be in a position to unleash that potential Miami thinks it saw.

THE LIST: DOLPHINS VS. STATE TEAMS: The Dolphins' won-lost records in their history vs. the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Jacksonville Jaguars, including last night's game:

Opponent            Season    Playoffs  Exhibitions

Buccaneers          5-4           0-0        16-12  

Jaguars                3-2            0-1        6-4

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Just looking for improvement from both sides of the ball and no injuries...

GO DOLPHINS !!!!!

OMG, It's the first blog Cote's made this year where he didn't mention his Man-Crush with Lebron...
He must still be swooning about his visit with Der Fuher..., OPPS I meant to say The President....
My Bad...

10 to 3 in the middle of the 2qtr, I don't see where Vegas is wrong at there 7.5 wins for the fins...
FZB,I would venture to say come the Bye-Week you might need find a spider-hole......
Just saying...HEHEHE

Same old Dolphins. Nothing has changed OH Hum boring.
Payroll as big as the Yankees and can't get it done.
What did we hear all year....Building a team to beat the Patriots....OH Pleeeez! Not even close. Christ they can't beat the Bucs. Ross will be looking for a GM, coach, OC and a quarterback within 2 years.
This team will be lucky, very lucky to win 5 games.

6-10

FZB,

that cubano for the marlins had another strong outing; who woulda thunk (tee,hee)?

Do you guys know what to look for in preseason? Overall a good game. Peace

Well OC I am ready to make my prediction for the season. Sadly I don't see the necessary improvement for Miami to get to the next level. It's just not there. Miami's only hope for a playoff spot is the Pats imploding.

My prediction... 7-9 status quo.

First half is all that counted score wise.if you people think by losing to Tampa by using our 3rd string qb is any indication on how the Dolphins are going to be this year you people know nothing about football.Geez what a bunch of morons Miami Dominated the Bucs

Mouning guys....

Jimbo...I agree with U...most of these guys don't know what to look for..

10-6...

Shadow...Fernandez is the NL rookie of the year even over the great Puig..this kid is amazin
7 innings, no runs allowed and 8 K's...wow

Dolphin starters dominated the Bucks...our defense is the chit but our offense is a work in progress, fat John Jerry is back and will get better as he gets in better shape, our O line will show progress, fake games can be misleading.

U guys remember last year? ...we were 0-4 and had NO OFFENSE, the doomsayers were out in force with their predictions of doom 1 to 3 wins and yet they managed to win 7 games ( it should have been 9) with no talent at WR , this year we have improved on both sides of the ball...10-6 and in contention for the playoffs...yeah, I said it.


FZB writes..."Dolphin starters dominated the Bucks..."

No they didn't FZB. Miami was trailing in the first half with less then 2 minutes to go and would have trailed at the half had TB not fumbled with a minute 30 to go.

Look at the schedule. Right now MIA would be a clear favorite in only ONE of their first 7 games (Buffalo at home) and clear underdogs in 5 others (INDY, ATL, NO, BALT and NE). At Cleveland is probably a pickem game.

Unless Philbin and Ireland are holding back something that they will surprise us with once the season starts I just don't see it.

But I will be rooting I'm wrong and you're right. To tell you the truth I think I am being generous to MIA in predicting 7-9.

Let me ask a question. Which record is more likely for the Dolphins, 11-5 or 5-11? I know FZB and Big Baby will say 11-5. I wonder what the rest of you think.

The good: Tannehill looked great despite several drops

The bad: red zone offense remains a huge issue

The bottom line: The defense alone will keep them in enough games to go 8-8. If they can score a few more TDs than 10-6 and a wild card spot is possible. The best part is I can't lose; either they surprise people and make the playoffs or they fall flat and Ireland is gone. Win/win.

When you have 8 shots within the 10 yard line and settle for 3 points, there is a problem. Charles Clay is not the answer at TE. Not one pass over 20 yards. The most frustrating thing is this offense looks the same as before Philbin arrived. Ryan TanneHill and the defense were impressive though. This defense will win us 7 games. The question is, how many more games on top of that will our offense win us?

I think we all agree that the Dolphins defense is top ten in the NFL so that means we will be in every game , add to that we could also be top ten in special teams also, ( not from yesterday's showing ) now add the fact we have upgraded our WR position and the young players will have another year's experience?...Tannehill and the offensive line are the key.

Yeah, we could easily win 10 games..no doubt.


See Tom?...I'm not the only one saying the Dolphin starters dominated..

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/08/25/3584287/miami-dolphins-starters-dominate.html

I'm watching the Dolphs game right now. They better get a white guy to return punts.

Boy, do we have a kick return problem.

They should cut this fish Thigpen right now. I just saw the boy get tackled by a blade of grass in an open field. This after two fumbled punt returns.

Miami's wide receivers couldn't catch a cold at the isolation ward at Jackson Memorial.

Charles Clay is as good as gone.The guy s a TOTAL waste now.After 3 years ...the guy s a BUST.Dump him immediately.Gray self-stamped his termination as well with his last minute fumble.THAT is a definitely BAD thing to do at such a critical time.He s also G-O-N-E.Devlin must also be competing for incompetentness.He did about as bad as back-up QB Moore did last week.Devlin s play is disgraceful.What is he being kept arounf for except Dolphin brass simply think that he s a likeable kid.Makes no sense.He should be unloaded also by now.

Wow, they look like horse hack, and against the Tampa Bay defense that couldn't stop a snail with a sledge hammer. I think the way things are shaping up I'd rather take a sledge hammer to the jimmies than sit here this year and watch these Dolphins.

Wow, Brandon "Oops" Gibson another drop, this time a TD pass in the end zone that Gregg Cote could have caught even if he had two hands on an extra large pizza with extra cheese.

Dolphins running game? I've had a better case of the runs in my bathroom after eating at Taco Bell than what I've seen of Miami's running game so far.

If this guy Freeman could actually throw the ball Tampa would have 35 points on the board by half time. There's been more wide open wide receivers on the field for Tampa Bay than at the West Hollywood Gay Pride parade on Halloween.

I don't think 5-11 or 11-5 are realistic possibilities for the Dolphins, I don't think the range is much wider than 7-9 to 9-7.

Dolphins fans underestimate Tannehill and the offense and overestimate the defense.

This is a middling team, which wouldn't be a problem at this point if they had a decent GM and were building towards something.

I'd like to see them overtake the Pats and win the division but sneaking into the playoffs as a wildcard isn't worth another half decade of mediocrity behind Jeff Ireland.

Now now, Kazaam, at least we still have the best looking cheerleaders in the business.

If they keep this guy Thigpen on the team returning punts he's going to cost us a minimum of two games this year. He is beyond horrible. Putrid might be a better word to describe him.

Mr. Woodcock,

well, they shipped away their best punt returner to cleveland. i don't think he dropped many last year and was +/- 10 yds per, i think. also wound uo 3 yds less per catch than hartline, the acknowledged deep threat. i saw that my guy got tatted up on the left arm at least, but that's the way it goes. i have hated looking at those things since i picked up this cutie in hoillywood who had "lil' hot stuff" right above her left ya-ya- that was almost forty years ago before this sensation caught on; it was better left to criminals and sailors.

Shad, the only saving grace of this pre-season has been the utter joke that the Jets, Bills, and Patsys have shown themselves to be this year. Of course NE still is heads and shoulders above what might be one of the worst divisions in football. Frankly I don't see how there's any chance for any of these four teams to be playing in the last BCS championship game. No, not even the Patsy's would be favored to win the SEC West this year....

Tom- I don't see 11-5, or 5-11. I think closer to what Kazaam says, 9-7, 7-9. From what I have seen so far, 8-8 looks more like it.

Oh boy..here we go again with all you negativo experts...

10-6

Yup..

Say Kaz..what the fak is going on with the NCAA?


Whre is our fullback for f***sake...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR90gQ-SIaY

Where's our white rabbit for f***sake...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oRKvpZ7PjE

Want to change my 7 and 9 to 6 and 10....
Sorry, Just don't see the fins scoring a lot of points, Yes they have a good defense but if you cant score, you don't win..
Like the great Yogi Berra said "The team that scores the most usually wins".....

You missed the question guys. WHICH is more likely? If you had a gun to your head and your only two options were 5-11 or 11-5 which would go with?

5 and 11...
Fire away..

5-11

Gun to the head.

11-5...don't fire away.

fellers,

how did the 49ers het stuck with colt mccoy and worse as back-ups to colin kaepernick? as stated many times, good teams ust have two good QBs; none of the back-ups have been able to get the 49ers a TD in the pre-season and colt mccoy looks way in over his head, therefore make seattle the choice to win their division as the multi-talented kaepernick is gonna get rocked often in the SF offense. and i believe i heard that they lost crabtree, which means he got hurt cause no way they would let him go to another team, methinks.

Come on Kaz..you're life is on the line and you have to choose. 11-5 or 5-11?

Just saying, don't give Dolphins fans 'gun to the head' as an option in any hypothetical.

Dolphins have four automatic wins inside their division and there's no way they would go only 1-11 for the rest of their slate. So if we're at the end of the season and you're telling me one of those two records happened it would have to be 11-5.

But neither seems inside the realm of possibility to me.

Kaz here are 14 games with a realistic possibility of a loss for this team. Looking at these games right now I would expect MIA to be the underdog in at least 9 of these games (INDY, ATL, NO, BALT, NE, CINCI, TB, PITT, and NE).

@CLEV
@ INDY
ATL
@ NO
BALT
@ NE
CINCI
@TB
SD
CAR
@ NY
@ PITT
NE
@ BUFF

Please find 11 games with a realistic possibility of a win.....

Tom...even negativo Kaz said 11-5... How bout that amigo?

Kotex thinks this team could be a playoff contender. I guess they don't drug test at the Herald.

Seriously FZB? You are hanging your hat on what the Kazmeister says? Pleweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze....

But Kaz you are right about "a gun to the head" of a Dolphins fan. If that were truly the scenario, he/she would just say ff it and pull the trigger out of utter hopelessness.

Tom - it's impossible, there's no chance the Dolphins win 11 or 5 games in my mind.

Parity is the rule in the NFL and teams always win and lose games they shouldn't, so the path to 11 wins wouldn't be what you think anyway.

Looking at the schedule the 'easiest' path would be to sweep the Jets and Bills, split with the Pats, and beat Cleveland, Indy, Tampa Bay, San Diego, Carolina, and Pittsburgh.

But like I said, I don't see the range being much wider than 7-9 to 9-7.

10-6

Tom,

Kazimiro usually has no clue on anything but he has a clear mind on this one..

still lov-ya Kaz..

Canes start friday!!!, let's go..who's going to be there with me?

oh before I forget, fak U NCAA,

All you negative people should find yourselves a new team. In 2008 all the so could football brains had my Dolphins finishing in last place in the AFC East I predicited 11-5 and THEY FINISHED 11-5 so this year I predict no worse than 10-6

What did you predict in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012 Cliff?

Cliff- You do recall that Brady went out in the first game of 2008? In that first game the dolphins went to the wild cat, with Brady at QB, the Pats would still outscore the dolphins.

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