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August 27, 2013

The legacies of Howard Schnellenberger: What's No. 1? Poll. Vote now; plus Dolphin cuts, Guandolo's slap, Upset Bird Countdown (10 days) & more

1) It is TUESDAY, AUGUST 27. The Dan Le Batard Show remains on vacation this week, but I'm told today's "best of" show (3 p.m., 790 & 104.3 the Ticket) will include heavy doses of me. So you've been warned! 2) No Dolphins among 13 NFL player featured in new version of Carrie Underwood's "Waiting All Day For Sunday NIght," debuting Sept. 8. But ex-Cane Jimmy Graham is included. 3) In The Previous Blogpost (ITPB): Foot-dragging NCAA holds UM hostage, Miley Cyrus at the VMAs, George Zimmerman at the gun factory & more. 4) Follow us on Twitter (gregcote), on Instagram (Upsetbird) and on Vine (Greg Cote).

HOWARD SCHNELLENBERGER: THE MAN, THE LEGEND ... THE HERALD MISTAKE: I wrote a lengthy Howard Schnellenberger column I liked. The timing was perfect, with this week's season-opening UM-FAU game a 1aa1howardsfirst-ever meeting of two football programs that count him as so hugely influential. Just one problem: The column that was supposed to jump to page 3D in the print (newspaper) edition on Tuesday did not jump anywhere in what I'm told were about half of all papers. That's embarrassing. The good news? The Herald re-published the column in Wednesday's editions. Meantime (thank you, Internet), click on AN ARCHITECT OF LEGACIES for the piece in its entirety. I asked Howard in yesterday's interview what accomplishment makes him proudest and he mentioned three, chronologically: Making the Hurricanes national champions, completely turning around the Louisville program in his hometown, and building FAU football from ground zero. Now here's a poll to set the order on Howard's own big three, which are listed here chronologically. (I think this poll might see a landslide winner, but you never know until you know). Vote and say why. I'm also curious if Canes fans upon reflection think less of Schnellenberger because of the "terrible decision" (his words, now) to abruptly leave UM after the '83 title.

DOLPHINS TRIM TO 75: Guard Lance Louis and fullback Jorvorskie Lane were the biggest cuts today as club trimmed roster to 75 to meet NFL deadline. Others among the nine men cut were WRs Julius Pruitt, Jeff Fuller and Andrell Smith; LBs Michael Clay, Nathan Williams and David Hinds; and DE Emeka Onyenekwu. All teams must trim to a final 53 by Saturday.

ON GUANDOLO'S HELMET-SLAP: Cypress Bay football coach Mark Guandolo is suspended two weeks (one game) by the county because ESPN cameras caught him slapping the helmet of his quarterback, Lucas Tellefsen. I get it, I guess. It's discipline for appearance's sake. It's also pretty comical. Such a violent sport. That kid-QB better be prepared for bone-jarring blindside sacks, but if his coach gets a tad physical -- OH NO! Funny to me.

UPSET BIRD COUNTDOWN: 10 DAYS: The Upset Bird and I kick off our season of Friday NFL prediction 1aa1angry birds 1aa1birdupages on Sept. 6, and today we begin a 10-day countdown that each day will honor outstanding notable birds. We kick it off with Angry Birds, the video game franchise. [Never-before-told backstory: The Upset Bird, for reasons obvious, first thought the Angry Bird had usurped his name and considered legal action back in 2009 but was ultimately dissuaded by the Friday Page legal staff, which distracted and placated the Upset Bird with a plate of squirrel entrails].

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I say bring this guy in to push the rookie in the last preseason game.


The Dolphins have to cut some 31 players before Saturday's 53-man limit and starting with 9 by 4 pm today. Here are 17 names that jump out at me, and who might be part of those cuts. Feel free to agree/disagree, or add names:

Aaron Corp, QB
Jeff Fuller, WR
David Hinds, LB
Jordan Kovacs, S
Kyle Miller, TE
Julian Posey, CB
De'Andre Presley, CB
Tracy Robertson, DT
Lee Robinson, LB
Evan Rodriguez, RB
Derrick Shelby, DE
Andrell Smith, WR
R. J. Stanford, CB
Marcus Thigpen, RB
Jason Trusnik, LB
Brian Tyms, WR
Nathan Williams, CB

One thing will be 100% sure. QB Aaron Corp has to be on today's list.

Full existing roster for you to pick and choose:

46 Antwan Applewhite DE 6-3 258 27 6 San Diego State
62 Chris Barker G 6-2 305 23 R Nevada
65 Sam Brenner C 6-2 301 23 R Utah
16 Chad Bumphis WR 5-10 196 23 R Mississippi State
28 Nolan Carroll CB 6-1 205 26 4 Maryland
77 Tyson Clabo T 6-6 329 31 9 Wake Forest
42 Charles Clay FB/TE 6-3 250 24 3 Tulsa
49 Michael Clay LB 5-11 230 21 R Oregon
30 Chris Clemons S 6-1 214 27 5 Clemson
4 Aaron Corp QB 6-4 220 24 1 Richmond
3 Keenan Davis WR 6-3 215 22 R Iowa
29 Will Davis CB 5-11 186 23 R Utah State
92 John Denney LS 6-5 255 34 9 Brigham Young
7 Pat Devlin QB 6-3 225 25 3 Delaware
84 Michael Egnew TE 6-5 255 23 2 Missouri
59 Dannell Ellerbe LB 6-1 240 27 5 Georgia
2 Brandon Fields P 6-5 245 29 7 Michigan State
76 A.J. Francis DT 6-5 309 23 R Maryland
56 Jonathan Freeny LB 6-2 250 24 2 Rutgers
14 Jeff Fuller WR 6-4 223 23 1 Texas A&M
75 Nate Garner G 6-7 325 28 6 Arkansas
10 Brandon Gibson WR 6-0 205 26 5 Washington State
35 Mike Gillislee RB 5-11 208 22 R Florida
32 Jonas Gray RB 5-9 225 23 1 Notre Dame
21 Brent Grimes CB 5-10 183 30 7 Shippensburg
82 Brian Hartline WR 6-2 199 26 5 Ohio State
47 David Hinds LB 6-0 226 23 R Florida Atlantic
68 Richie Incognito G 6-3 319 30 9 Nebraska
43 Jelani Jenkins LB 6-0 243 21 R Florida
74 John Jerry G 6-5 345 27 4 Mississippi
40 Keelan Johnson S 5-11 209 23 R Arizona State
36 Don Jones CB 5-11 191 23 R Arkansas State
20 Reshad Jones S 6-1 210 25 4 Georgia
95 Dion Jordan DE 6-6 248 23 R Oregon
57 Josh Kaddu LB 6-3 242 23 2 Oregon
44 Jordan Kovacs S 5-10 205 23 R Michigan
41 Jorvorskie Lane FB 5-11 258 26 2 Texas A&M
61 Lance Louis G 6-3 320 28 5 San Diego State
71 Jonathan Martin T 6-5 312 24 2 Stanford
90 Vaughn Martin DL 6-4 308 27 5 Western Ontario (Canada)
18 Rishard Matthews WR 6-0 210 23 2 Nevada
37 Kelcie McCray S 6-1 200 24 2 Arkansas State
67 Andrew McDonald T 6-6 310 24 1 Indiana
87 Marvin McNutt WR 6-2 216 24 1 Iowa
86 Kyle Miller TE 6-5 260 25 2 Mount Union
26 Lamar Miller RB 5-10 218 22 2 Miami (Fla.)
55 Koa Misi LB 6-3 257 26 4 Utah
8 Matt Moore QB 6-3 216 29 7 Oregon State
98 Jared Odrick DE 6-5 302 25 4 Penn State
66 Tristan Okpalaugo DE 6-4 245 23 R Fresno State
69 Emeka Onyenekwu DE 6-3 251 23 R Louisiana (Lafayette)
24 Dimitri Patterson CB 5-10 200 30 7 Tuskegee
38 Julian Posey CB 5-11 187 25 2 Ohio
51 Mike Pouncey C 6-5 303 24 3 Florida
23 De'Andre Presley CB 5-10 185 23 1 Appalachian State
83 Julius Pruitt WR 6-2 212 27 3 Ouachita Baptist
97 Kheeston Randall DT 6-5 309 23 2 Texas
89 Tracy Robertson DT 6-4 280 23 1 Baylor
58 Lee Robinson LB 6-2 253 26 1 Alcorn State
48 Evan Rodriguez RB 6-2 239 24 2 Temple
64 Josh Samuda G 6-3 315 24 2 Massachusetts
79 Derrick Shelby DE 6-2 270 24 2 Utah
80 Dion Sims TE 6-4 262 22 R Michigan State
15 Andrell Smith WR 6-3 217 23 R Louisville
96 Paul Soliai DT 6-4 345 29 7 Utah
53 Austin Spitler LB 6-2 250 26 4 Ohio State
25 R.J. Stanford CB 5-10 185 25 3 Utah
94 Randy Starks DT 6-3 305 29 10 Maryland
9 Caleb Sturgis K 5-9 188 24 R Florida
17 Ryan Tannehill QB 6-4 222 25 2 Texas A&M
22 Jamar Taylor CB 5-10 192 22 R Boise State
34 Marcus Thigpen RB 5-9 195 27 2 Indiana
70 Dallas Thomas G/T 6-5 306 23 R Tennessee
33 Daniel Thomas RB 6-1 233 25 3 Kansas State
93 Jason Trusnik LB 6-4 252 29 7 Ohio Northern
85 Brian Tyms WR 6-3 210 24 1 Florida A&M
50 Olivier Vernon DE 6-2 268 22 2 Miami (Fla.)
91 Cameron Wake DE 6-3 250 31 5 Penn State
11 Mike Wallace WR 6-0 199 27 5 Mississippi
52 Philip Wheeler LB 6-2 240 28 6 Georgia Tech
6 Nathan Williams LB 6-3 249 23 R Ohio State
27 Jimmy Wilson S 5-11 205 27 3 Montana
72 Will Yeatman T 6-6 315 25 3 Maryland

What's up OC I don't think they cut Thigpen he shows flashes of potential on special teams just needs to be more consistent.

OC Dolphin,

gee, wasn't marcus thigpen one of last year's surprises? management took davone bess' almost 12 yard punt return avg. and handed it to him and got a TD in both punt return and KO return- now who does this bench have that is a better returner than thigpen? guaranteed they wont get two TDs out of the return squad.

shadow, as you may well know, I was never fond of the Davon Bess cut. The guy was solid. Great hands, seldom fumbled.

A return man who can't hold on to the ball is a danish.

BB, Hi back to ya. I don't know. I went through that list and all I could easily cut were 26 names. Management is going to have to cut some muscle.

This period of the football year always intrigues me. Every team has to make those tough two or three player cuts on Saturday who almost always land on other teams thin at their positions.

Look for an OL, TE or special teams/RB guy to possibly get picked up from cut players.

...and I'm not sure that Egnew survives just because he's good at picking up gum wrappers.

Wow OC.....

Got a little too much time on your hands......

OB4, it's called semi-retirement.

OC I was wondering how L. Odom went from good NBA player to bad overnight looks we have our answer I knew it had to be something and I am not talking about a Kardashian.

Lamar has always had a weakness for candy. Nose or any other kind.

Sure but I don't think that he has always been a crack head this seems like a somewhat new development and would explain why he bombed out of LAL and Dallas without explanation.

I suppose one is incapable of escaping the weirding effects of being legally related to Bruce Jenner.

Plastic surgery do's and dont's.


on your list of players that are on the bubble..I think Derrick Shelby, Marcus Thigpen and Brian Tyms make the team.

Egnew makes it too because of Keller's injury.

Lamas Odom?..its a tragedy what's happening to him but its his own damn fault.

welcome back Baby.

Bruce Jenner looks more like a girl now, WTF happened to that dude?..

you guys think the Dolphins should cut Pat Devlin?..and just go with two QB's?

Watched that preseason game against Tampa last night if C. Clay is our # 2 TE then we are in trouble he sucks anyone else available?

Sorry FZ I just have no faith that Egnew ever contributes to this team in a meaningful way.

Rishard Matthews hurt or something I haven't seen him at all this preseason.

After our Big 3 of WR's everone else is a mish mash of waiver wire warriors no idea who makes it.

Nolan Carroll is assuming a big role on this team now.

the Jets just signed Dan Carpenter..wait, I thought he HAD ALREADY SIGNED with the Arizona Cardinals...

agree Baby, we seem to be in trouble at the TE position

Lots of big WR sets this year it looks like Tannehill has improved you can already see it in limited action this season.

the RG position is still a problem, we need a running game to take the pressure of Tannehill but you're right, he seems to be on schedule to have a better year.

our defense will be solid, they are going to keep us in a lot of games...only a few more days guys.

Did I mention we don't have quality blocking fullback or any other kind of fullback for that matter. I did? Oh good. Short sighted on part of FZ's son but oh well...

Dukito, guess what...Javorsky Lane has been cut...

the Dolphins are going without a fullback (I think)..

no more power football..

What about Rodriguez?

This is a pass first team anyway they don't need a fullback.

They could use him to pass block for O-line...

Woody Bennett stayed in to block for pass happy Marino against Bears in '85 and we all saw how that worked out...

anyone see Norm Bulach? Don Nottingham?


we had Mark super Duper, Mark Clayton and Nat Moore plus Tony Nathan out of the back field and a certain Hall of Fame QB throwing to them..

not the same....

We don't have savy and speedy Duper or Clayton or Moore for that matter so longer it takes to get open more imperative is an excellent blocking back to stay at home and protect Tannehill. If you have excellent O-line not as important. Still fullback that can block and catch is never outdated imo...

one of the RB's will be let go. Although I think he is a keeper, I feel the team is most inclined to part ways with Jonas Gray. Thigpen was a lock to stay until he fumbled 2 punts vs TBay. Gillislee, Thomas, Miller will stay.
QB Devlin? stay or go? With a some weak play and busted pass blocking assignments, going with only 2 QB's is pressing your luck. Moore has played like poop this preseason. Poor stiff had no time to throw.
O Line? Pouncey, Incognito, Martin, Clabo are locks. Everyone else is suspect. EXPECT Miami to pick up a cap casualty starter or valued backup. IMO when Jerry & Louis or is it Jerry Lewis ,,, lol,,, gets healthy this line will improve. Draft pick Dallas Thomas looks fat, stiff, timid. Thomas is safe for now, give the rookie a season to come around. All backup O line are expendable,, were tote'n trash here.
DL... Shelby is a keeper, ain't seeing him getting released.
The D is going to be great this season. IF Miami can actually catch INT's & recover fumbles, the unit could be a top 5 crew... also, this is contingent on DB's staying healthy & new LB's playing to their ability.

Thigpen fumbled only one punt the first one was Nolan Carroll getting pushed into him which never should have happened.

With Keller on the IR, Miami will start and mostly move around the field with no TE & 3 WR's. Possibly use both Miller & Thomas in the backfield at the same time,,, hmmm 2 RBs, Thomas is big enough to slide into FB role running I formation. Sims will see a lot of playing time. Egnew is a lost cause. Timid Timmy Egnew can't block, is scared to catch the ball in traffic. Get rid of him & cut your losses. Yeatman is big, good blocker, good project to keep (emergency LT). Rodriguez will be let go.

I don't think Thigpen even touched it looks as if it bounced off of Carroll's back and was recovered.

Unless I missed another one of course as I was fast forwarding through the game after Tannehill went out.

yeah going with only two QB's is a gamble but they may have to do it if they wanna keep a better player at another position..

Not sure Sims sees any playing time this season but I hope I am wrong.

Right on though cut Egnew and move on Yeatman is a keeper can play on OL or TE.

D. Thomas looks like he has lost at least 20 lbs. this year he looks much more fit hopefully that translates into production.

If Simms can't beat out crappy C. Clay at TE then we have issues there.

and maybe a good solid veteran TE gets cut and we can pick him up..

I guess fat John Jerry makes it for another year, it seems they've been trying to replace him forever.

BB..I think Sims sees a lot of playing time specially running plays.

Lance Louis was cut also, that's a bit of a surprise but Armando is saying they may bring him back after the first week if he is still available so they don't have to guarantee his salary.

the guy is a good player but he is still not all the way back from injury and he was a luxury to keep..

this is for all you Facebook users, careful now..Big brother is watching.


FZ anything Armando says is usually false.

I miss Ben Volin already that guy was a pro big shoes to fill there.

dukey, those chord progressions of C,D,F and G on Atlantis are about as tame as I can handle. Barre chords, moreover, on an acoustic are too much for my newly developing arthritic fingers to take:(

So it looks like the nine cuts are:

RG Lance Louis, WR Jeff Fuller, DE Emeka Onyenekwu, WR Andrell Smith, LB Nathan Williams, LB David Hinds, WR Julius Pruitt, FB Jorvorskie Lane and LB Michael Clay.

Looks like I got three right, but what the H is QB Aaron Corp still doing on the team?

Ahh I can see why Bruce Jenner is unhappy unless he was going for the Margie Post look...

I guess it's no surprise why Bruce Jenner excelled in the sport of the decathlon. Dude has to feel comfortable around 10 distinctly different challenges and that home has at least that many weirdos (him included). Brucey is certainly not a vanilla or chocolate only type guy. Tutti-frutti, Pumpkin Cheesecake, and Nutcracker Suite, if you please.

Ravens cut Visanthe Shianco, he looked like he had a little bit left in the tank, pretty sure handed in preseason, made some tough grabs.


Aaron Corp was kept to play in the last game..he'll be cut by the end of the week.

Most of the players that are being cut today are not that good, next friday will be better quality abailable..1,000 players will be let go , .teams will wait until then


OC if you didn't already have arthritis acoustic guitars will surely give it to you. Get yourself a skinny light weight Strat like Jimi. You'll be playing Message of Love in no time. By the way doesn't pain make you feel alive that is when it isn't UNBEARABLE...


"message of love" is my favorite jimi song, followed closely by "dolly dagger"; i am not a musician but they seem like the same song to me.

Shiancoe had a great year in Minny Fav-rus last season nothing since really he's probably better than what Miami has though bring him in.


this is a horrific story; one doesn't need to be a bengals fan to feel for reggie wiliams. playing all those games on articial substance probably had a lot to do with his plight (cleveland was the only team in the AFC central that played on grass at the cavernous municipal stadium. the man needs our prayers and needs somebody's generosity to help him along.


shadow funny you should mention Dolly Dagger because I've been trying to get that chord progression for years. Clearly I'm not nor will I ever be mistaken for Sir Jimi...


"season of the witch" is an amazing song; however it comes in at #3 on that album behind "the trip" and "fat angel"- "fly trans love airways"!!!!! donavan was one of the best artists of the 60s, and just for writing the beautiful "catch the wind" makes the list. i had an obscure cassette that had live versions of CTW and "colours" which were amazing!!


well, it says here that UNC will beat spurrier's guys- of course i know nothing about north carolina other than they beat UM consistently. south carolina does possess their fantastic defensive lineman, but i am rooting for the tar heels just to put a little nick (no pun intended) in the reputation of the SEC.

One of my favorite things to do in my new town is to shop and or eat at the original Whole Foods store located in downtown Austin. I'm probably in there half a dozen times a week, easy. Anyway, I was shopping there for dinner items and The Stones - Ruby Tuesday was playing. Always one of my favs.

...for the record, I'm making panko coated fried catfish, then topping it off with some freshly made mango salsa. You're all invited!

speaking of the Stones I was born in a crossfire hurricane...

OC I have tried catfish a few times but it always tastes like an old shoe caught at the bottom of a lake those things eat mud and gross things they aren't good bro hope you used extra mango salsa.


I hope you're not in ANY physical pain my good friend...by the way " season of the witch " was a great song, very underrated...

Catfish OC?... While I do have great love for sea food, catfish is not up in my fav list, much prefer a nice red snapper or yellow tail but thanks for the invite.

Fav Stones song...Can't you hear me knocking...that song rocks !

BB, you've obviously never eaten at OC's restaurant.

Today is my boy's birthday..FZB-Jr aka the Doctor, turned 32 today..told him is all downhill from now on..gave him a big hug.

The kid's done all right...proud of him.

...a good fresh catfish reveals fresh water taste, and generally, it's all about the sauce. I also make it with cajun sauce that takes 45 minutes to create, but boy!!!!

Happy B to FZB's proud production!


You need to come down to the 305 , we have some fine sea food restaurants down here..

One of my customers who's a die hard Jets fan came in to see me today, I couldn't resist bashing on his team, he's totally disillusion with what's going up up there, sees no end in sight, poor guy, kind of felt sorry for him if you can believe that..

...taking a page from Goofball...here, just drinking some wine, catching the night rays, as the fam is in the living room playing classic Mario...hahahaha. Will drop the fish into the hot oil as soon they ask for it. Euro fam here eating at 9 pm.

Thanks OC !!!!

Way to go FZB. Congrats on your Dr son. That's awesome. Too bad you're only batting 500. Ireland is a bust better suited to flipping burgers.


Ohh, that one hurt Tom..lol

Yeah, that was a really good one by Tom. Okay, as predicted. Din time. SeeYa.

You can get anything you want at OC's restaurant.

Just about right, BB, just about right.


Finished talking with Woodcock just a few minutes back. The guy is just golf crazy. He took it to La Purisima, north of Santa Barbara and a nice track.

One of my favorite new groups is Silversun Pickups. Relatively new LA band I've been following for a few years. Their new song embraces (appropriately) what seems to be a quickly surging (believe me, I have an eye for trends) trend. That of lesbianism. Here in Austin, this reality is more prevalent than one would ever imagine.


WTF is that on the rook Jordan's head? Hopefully it will grow out into a full Bozo.

Opinions are like A-holes but notice that this guy doesn't even mention Miami in his fantasy wrap up.....


Yes he does...

FZB, Congrats on the kid. We got something in common, both our sons are in the medical field. Yours is a DR & one of mine works at a medical MJ biz in Colorado....

You got me there, Kazamster, I missed it completely. I gotta admit they've looked better the last few games. And even Stevie Wonder can see that it all comes down to Tan, but the kid has played pretty well. Losing the tight end will hurt so far except for the rook none of the others looks ready for the bright lights. Hope springs eternal though.

Kaz, who do you think has the most fantasy value of these three QB's, Luck, RGIII, or Wilson?

Boys, what QB has the best fantasy value this year?

RG3 has the highest ceiling, Luck is safest.

Don't think you can get good value out of the top two (Brees and Rogers), I think Manning and Newton are a little better than the big group of second tier QBs so I'd target one of them if they fall to the 4th or 5th round.

If you don't take a QB early you should wait, there's no reason to miss out on a starting running back or featured receiver because you personally like RG3/Kaep/Stafford, etc. more than the rest of the second tier. It's all luck once you've drafted them and there's not much separation so just get the one that falls to you.

And take Vick in round 10-13 in case he goes nuts in Chip Kelly's offense.

The reason I asked you is that my current plan, will change depending on what I draw for draft order, is to take two running backs and two wide receivers and take a qb in the 4th, 5th, or 6th round if a guy that I have high on my list is there. I've usually been hammered when I've taken a QB way down in the draft. A guy like Drew Brees who is usually taken late in the first (12 team league) or early in the second, is usually money due to the number of TD's that he accounts for (in my league TD's are everything).

Mr. Woodcock,

i don't get "fantasy football" at all. i was in several years of rotisserie baseball, and got out a winnner, but the stats in baseball are pretty much independent of teammates' contributions, which i don't see in fantasy football leagues. and to hear endless fantasy talk or have to listen to matthew berry, a nerd who started out on KMPC is LA- gruesome.

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