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April 04, 2013

How much responsibility is on Shalala in UM's NCAA mess? New poll. Vote; plus The U's risky play, Bosh, Marlins, Kiper on Dolphin draft & more

1aa1ebert1) It is SATURDAY, APRIL 6. New blogpost coming by late afternoon today, post-golf. 2) R.I.P. Roger Ebert, renowned film critic, dead at 70. 3) Dolphins release framework of preseason schedule. It's Aug. 4 vs. Cowboys in Hall of Fame Game in Canton; Aug. 9-11 at Jaguars; Aug. 16-18 at Texans; Aug. 23-24 vs. Buccaneers; and Aug. 28-29 vs. Saints. 4) In The Previous Blogpost (ITPB): Marlins' fan dilemma poll, Kid Pitino bolts FIU, Herald's 'Heat 25' ballot, Dolphins draft. 5) Join us on Twitter @agregcote.

Click on Griner & The NBA for my most recent column, on why the best player in women's basketball has no shot in NBA and why Mark Cuban's noise about it is a disservice.

'Schulman Surge' continues!: The Herald's massive poll to name the 25 most influential figures in Heat's 25-year existence is underway, and I am encouraging my blog family to rock the vote for otherwise obscure front-office executive Sammy Schulman. Just because! Already, thanks to you, Schulman has surged ahead of the likes of Burnie the Mascot, Bimbo Coles, DJ irie, the Heat Dancers and Antoine Walker. Let's keep the harmless anarchy going! Click HERE, scroll down to vote for Schulman only and tell others to do the same. Power to the people!

RESPONSIBLE? BLAMELESS? WHAT IS SHALALA'S BURDEN IN UM'S NCAA MESS?: I explore this in Thursday's column, which uses as its launch-point the scandal at Rutgers that led to this week's firing of the 1aa1donnasmen's basketball coach. Click on The Buck Stops Where? to read. Penn State's president lost his job over that school's scandal. NCAA president Mark Emmert probably should lose his over the bungling of the UM case. Rutgers' president may yet be fired. But Miami president Donna Shalala (pictured) has received negligible criticism or suggestion of responsibility in the probe that centers on years of wrongdoing by renegade booster Nevin Shapiro. Is that fair? The poll question is specific to Shalala but really delves into the larger issue of how much responsibility college presidents should bear for major problems related to their athletic deprtments. Vote and say why.

UM's risky play with NCAA: Much is being made of UM's official motion to dismiss sent to the NCAA. It was long-expected. What is mostly newsworthy about it , to me, is the risk Miami is taking by focusing its 45-page argument on the NCAA's own "improper acts" during the 2 1/2-year probe in the Nevin Shapiro case. Those improprieties are valid; they happened. But they also are something the NCAA has said did not taint the investigation to a degree it won't go on. The likelihood of this matter being immediately concluded as UM asks is speck-of-sand small. That would be the NCAA admitting to such a botchery of the case that it could bring down president Mark Emmert. Such an admission simply will not happen. Miami's official motion here is more likely to simply anger and tweak the NCAA as it meets in June to mull any further punishments beyond what UM has already self-imposed. I do not blame UM and president Donna Shalala for being aggressive in filing this motion, as long as the very small chance of an actual dismissal was properly considered against the larger risk.

BOSH'S HOME SUSPICIOUSLY BURGLARIZED: Miami Beach police suspect an 1aa1boshcame;inside job in Wednesday night's burglary of Heat star Chris Bosh's waterfront mansion that netted thieves some $340,000 in jewelry. Cops are led to that suspicion by the lack of forced entry and the fact traceable items such as Bosh's NBA championship ring were not taken. The crime occured as Bosh and his wife were away celebrating his 29th birthday at a lavish -- and well-advertised -- nearby Moroccan-themed party that featured belly dancers, fire eaters and (not one but) two live camels. Photo from party courtesy atlnightspots.com.

MARLINS SCORE A RUN! MARLINS SCORE A RUN!: [Update: Marlins off the schneid! Beat Mets!] I was holding my 1aa1confettibreath 'til they did; now I can exhale. The Marlins had never before suffered consecutive shutout losses to begin a season. The previous fewest runs scored over the first two games was 1, in 1996 and 2012. (The fewest scored in the first three games had been 6 in 1994). Game 3 at Washington yesterday found Miami losing again but finally off the scoreless schneid in the top of the 2nd inning on a Justin Ruggiano solo homer. Party! Confetti!

Poll result: Loria animus still strong, but softening slightly: We asked how Marlins fans should feel this season, and it was 62.5 percent for no longer supporting the team because of Jeffrey Loria, vs. 27.9% for still supporting the team despite the owner (with 9.6% undecided). However, in November, the percents were 76.6, 16.4 and 7.0 -- an even stronger anti-Loria/boycott mentality. 

KIPER ON DOLPHINS DRAFT: ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper, on a conference call this week, asked if he thinks Miami could something "unconventional" with the No. 12 overall pick: "The one unconventional 1aa1djflukermove they made was when they had Matt Ryan [available], they took Jake Long and ended up with Chad Henne in the second round, so they thought they could get the left tackle, then the quarterback, neither of whom are with the team now and Matt Ryan is a franchise quarterback. So that's a move that obviously was critical in this whole equation for the Dolphins. We'll have to see how Tannehill develops. But a D.J. Fluker from Alabama (pictured), who's a right tackle or guard, could be an interesting guy at 12. The guy is as good a run-blocking right tackle as you'll ever find. He would be interesting at 12." [Note: In his latest 2-round mock draft, Kiper has Miami selecting Fluker in first round. His second-round pciks for Miami are Florida State DE Tank Carradine (42nd overall) and Southeastern Louisiana CB Robert Alford (54th)].

DORSEY TOPS UM HALL INDUCTEES: Champion QB Ken Dorsey and teammate Brett Romberg (both 1999-2002) head a list of seven latest UM Sports Hall of Fame inductees who'll be installed in a 45th annual ceremony April 11. Others are Ed Contreras (baseball, 1957-59); Bryan Gilooly (diving, 1994-98); Norm Parson (coach, 1972-2012); Don Soldinger (coach, 1984-88, '95-2006); and Jay Tessmer (baseball, 1994-95). Special congrats to Soldinger, whom I covered during the Jimmy Johnson years. Well deserved, Don.

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Kazaam versus Woodcock poll ready set GO!

Fluker? I don't like it the name has bad karma written all over it.

I would not use my #12 on Fluker. There are plenty of like-talented fat young men they would be able to get later in the draft. At this point it looks as if Lane Johnson will be long gone (between 4-7), and I doubt Ireland will deal away any of his plumb 2nd/3rd rounders to move up and snatch Johnson.

Sooooo, knowing that this year's draft class has a good number of talent at G, and at secondary, I would either stay at #12 and draft whichever DE is skipped early (Ezekiel Anzah or Barkevious Mingo), or trade out of #12, possibly with a team like the Bengals who have a #21 pick and a #5 in the second round.

We all know that with nine picks, Ireland will draft: (2) corners, (3) guards/tackles (assuming no Winston), (1) blocking TE, (1) WR, (1) DE, and some waste of a weird-a** selection who will never make the team.

Again, since this draft has a rich pool of talent at the secondary and line, the team SHOULD focus their first pick on a starting edge rusher.

Shalala's ultimately responsible for the scandal, institutional control goes all the way to the top.

Not that she should have been out there Saturday nights making sure players didn't get free meals from boosters, but those failures are on the compliance department and coaches, who were hired by the AD, who was hired by Shalala.

As far as her job's concerned though, this scandal isn't nearly bad enough to jeopardize it. The amount S****** gave to the athletic department was chump change and the university has done EVERYTHING the right way since the investigation started.

OC's Mock Draft:

1. 12 - Ezekiel Anzah, and if gone, Barkevious Mingo - both, DE
2. 10 - Jamar Taylor, or Darius Slay - both best rated CB available
2. 22 - Terron Armstead, OT, best on the board at this time.
3. 15 - Da'Rick Rogers, WR - but Jeff will never draft, what is reported as, a Julio Jones clone with character issues
3. 20 - Gavin Escobar, TE
4. 14 - Leon McFadden, CB
5. 13 - Alvin Bailey, or Hugh Thornton, best OG available
7. 11 - Earl Wolff, SS, for special teams play
7. 18 - Greg Cote, W, for on field tackling dummy

OC,

Now you are thinking, There is no need to trade up since the Dolphins think that Jonathan Martin will be ok at LT, there are two other LT/RT prospects in round two, Melenik Watson FSU and Terron Armstead (don't remember the school's name) they will be around in rd two if they want to get one, also there is a wild card here in Will Yeatman RT , a former TE whom the Dolphins have kept, I think the Dolphins like him a lot according to Ben Volin of the PBP.

OC,,

we have 11 picks not 9...an extra 5th and an extra 7th

now you have to do your draft all over again..lol

my wish list for the numero one in order is:

G- Warmack
DE-Ansah
DT-Lotulelei
G-Cooper

I don't think Shalala should lose her job over this mess (sorry Wood's)...I think she has been an asset to the school.

OC,

Barkevious Mingo is more of a LB in a 3-4 defense than a DE in a 4-3 but the guy has talent and can probably get to the QB.

I wound keep and eye on Cornellius Carradine DE FSU in the second rd (if they don't get Ansha in the first )

FZ, yep, I forgot about the compensatory picks: 5. #34 and 7. #44. They may be able to pick up one other developmental, or special teams player with that #34, but that seventh rounder will never make the team.

Mingo will be forced to play DE in the pros.

meant to say I would keep an eye on...sorry

If they stay with their #12 ,whoever THAT is needs to start.

Draft Xavier Rhodes round 1. Secondary won't look bad with Rhodes, Clemons, Jones, and Brent Grimes. Look for a solid RT in round 2. We do need another corner, however....makes sense shoring that up round 1, because there are a few solid options.

IF they are going to "reach" for D J Fluker OT in rd one then I rather reach for Tyler Eifert TE..

Xavier Rhodes is a good player but maybe not a good fit for our defense..

just saying

Nice to see a "cute little country" like North Korea throwing it's weight around eh Jimbo.

Big D, I'd rather apply pressure on the QB. They get another edge rusher to go along with Wake and even mediocre corners will pick off desperation passes.

OC,

Agree 100% with your last post...

what's up Dukes-Ter !!!, como estas mi amigo?

Given the way NFL play has developed, there are just too many great slot receivers, regular receivers, tight ends, backs coming out of the backfield and mobile QB's who dart passes to all these targets to have anything close to shut down corners anymore. Better to pressure the QB into making throws before all that develops.

dukey, just to antagonize Kim Jong Un a bit more, I would have one of our B-2 bombers drop 10,000 fully scaled inflated xxx-dolls, in the likeness of KJU, with full orifices and arrows pointing to them and stating - USA pleasure holes.

How about the draft where they passed on Drew Brees and instead selected Josh Heipel who didn't even last a year in the NFL...

*Heupel*

hahaha. OC with traditional round mouth and wide open eyes! Que pasa FZB.

Yes OC shut down corners are becoming less important it's all about a zone scheme now the safety position is just as important as CB now a seismic shift in how the game used to be played.

WOW !!!!

a Josh Heupel reference...I supposed we can all blame Ireland for that pick too.

Dukey, How are you feeling my brother?..

Maybe it's time for alittle SHOCK & AWE for North Korea. We won't even bother invading just SHOCK & AWE them out of the principle of the thing...

FZB, Good times bad times you know I've had my share...

i actually think she SHOULD go; there are problems outside the athletic department as well. someone very close to my family works with the intellectual property commercialization department AND the medical school; the place is a mess and i think, outside of raising a fortune, donna's administration skills leave something to be desired..

Are 7th round picks worth the bother?

There have been a total of six players picked during the last 10 drafts who were drafted in the seventh round and went on to become Pro Bowlers. The list includes: DE Brett Keiser, G Scott Wells, DT Jay Ratliff, QB Matt Cassel, DB Cortland Finnegan and WR Marc Mariani.

During that same period, the only later round pick who became a Pro Bowler for the Dolphins was S Yeremiah Bell, who was selected #213 overall, in the 6ths round back in 03.

A number of "undrafted" players on occasions do make the team and contribute. Devon Bess and Cameron Wake being the most recent and best examples, proving that there are always gems out there to be found.

no doubt about it.. the draft position which would offer the most bang for the buck would be a pass rushing de opposite wake

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m52d7kqoJn1qgepq0o1_400.jpg

If Donna Shalala has any responsibility for what happened what about Randy Shannon's responsibility in this as well,how come no one ever mentions this? Simply telling staff and players to stay away from mini-me isn't enough. What else did he do to put a stop to the situation?

Especially if you look at the way the NCAA treated Paterno passing it on to higher ups and not doing any thing else to stop Sandusky.

Can't have it both ways! It flows down hill is what they say right? What? I was talking about responsibility, what did you think I meant?

Don't forget about undrafted Wes Welker he hasn't.

OC,

every once in a while you hit a gem in the 7th round and free agency, why not, right?

I have a feeling the Dolphins will use one of their 7th rounders to select the gators kicker....

and speaking of taking responsibility or not, this dude Emmert is the poster child for passing the buck.

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2047607

Atlanta cutting their starting right tackle in Tyson Clabo may be the final nail in what looks like a very solid FA season for the Dolphins. There hasn't been much by-way-of expensive offers to tackles out in the market, like Erik Winston, and now that Clabo enters the market, well, that provides would be suitors like the Dolphins even more to choose from.

I have a feeling that the Dolphins will sign either Clabo or Winston, and for not much money, within the week.

Welker could be a future Hall Of Fame player that went undrafted amazing.

Tyson Clabo's 21.3 rating among players at the position last season was fifth-best according to Pro Football Focus.

btw, the full report can be found here:

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/28/ranking-the-2012-offensive-lines/4/

...and you can scroll up to find the Dolphins rated #23 for last year, with not so enthusiastic a grade given to Jonathan Martin.

Note: commentary about SF, the #1 rated OL.

OC - McKinnie is available pretty cheap, Dolphins need a left tackle.

real david - Shalala made several huge investments in the med school right before the great recession and then obamacare. Not sure that those moves won't pay off long term but this was supposed to be her speciality, I think she would have been let go if she didn't make so much money for UM.

She's 70 years old and was planning on retiring in 2016 anyway.

UM has always been the most poorly run institution of higher learning in the country. This was true years ago, is true now, and will be true in the future. won't matter if Shalala is in charge or someone else.

Anyone not voting for the first choice, saying that her job could be in jeopardy (actually the poll should have had a choice that just said Fire The Bitch Already) is brain dead.

The only worst decision made in the Miami Sports scene in the last 10 or 15 years was the demolition of the Orange Bowl to build Humpty Dumpty for the Marlins. But a close, close second is when the U decided to hire the Troll. Maybe if we had left her up in Wisconsin or Minnesota or whatever Midwest dump she came from, and left her sitting there counting illegal campaign contribution for that loser Bill Clinton we would never have gotten in the mess that we're in today. We would still be considered the best football program in the nation, and the holy ground that is the Orange Bowl site wouldn't have a freaking white monstrosity that looks like a giant hard boiled egg with a cracked shell!

THAT'S MY BOY, DAPPER DAVE!

You SOB, I knew deep down that you weren't the ass wipe that I had you pegged as from the beginning. No sir, you are an "artiste" my man, not a cock sucker like that fish Kazaam who's only logical excuse to support that malodorous, midget, with the hatchet face has to be because he's related to the bitch by blood. Even her freaking in laws have thrown the little turd under the buss.

You might not know your ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to politics, Dapper, but when it comes to this giant pile of horse manure you, my man, are crystal clear.

Woodcock. The word is "whose," not who's. I know you would want me to correct your improper usage.

"I think she has been an asset to the school."

Ahahahahahahahahahaaaa. Oye, brother, put down the bong and start getting some oxygen going right now. She ruined the football program. That is what this discussion is all about, THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM!

No one is asking if she was great at raising test scores, or bringing in donations, or installing self flushing toilets in the men's rooms. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM, sucker.

All you have to do is ask yourself this one little question. "Do you like what's happened to the FOOTBALL PROGRAM since she got here?"

Jezis, freaking chris, It's not that hard, you don't have to be a pencil neck geek like that brain dead Kazaam to know the answer. Stuff her ass into an empty box of Cracker Jacks and throw her ass into the Miami River and let the little turd float outa here!

Oye come mierda, I have your usage right here you over officious jack ass.

Brother, I'm so mad just thinking about that freaking bitch that it's a wonder I can put two sentences together.

Don't get me going.

OC,

I HOPE you are right on your prediction ( Dolphins signing an OT whithin a week ).. It will give us great flexibility in the draft.

McKinnie is not a very good option, the guy is lazy and was out of shape most of the year, I don't think He's Philbin type of player, I don't know too much about this new guy Clabo but he's got the right name...el clabo.

Is it possible that I could be wrong about Shalala?...hhhmmm.

Head coaches run college football programs, not university presidents. Les Miles and Nick Saban are the reason LSU and Alabama are good, not their presidents. Larry Coker and Randy Shannon are the reason UM football has been bad, not Shalala.

Miami's garbage bandwagon fanbase didn't go to the Orange Bowl either, fewer fans went to three games in the OB during the 2001 season than went to Bethune-Cookman at Joe Robbie last year.

Oye Woody,

Can we just keep your girl friend Shalila until the thing with the NCAA blows over?..we can use her connections on capital hill.

You freaking jack ass, it rocked when there was a game that counted. And when some tomato can came in they still got 40,000 and you could eat a cuban sandwich at any timbiriche for less than five bucks. Hell you could take the bus down Flagler to get to the Orange Bowl and you could pay some cubiche a twenty spot to park your rig on his lawn. And if you gave the guy a couple of frias he would even look the other way while you smoked three blunts in his yard before heading in to the stadium.

Aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh, you freaking idiot, if you were right here in front of me right now I would choke the life out of your stinking carcass you freaking moron....Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!

Woodcock, I think I'm going to commission to make little stuffed Shalala dolls to sell at the student union and send you one for Christmas later this year.

Oye OC,

I think the Woods-ter finally, officially is ready for " mazorra "... Oye meng, calmate que te va a dar un infarto..

Going back to the LT debate. Jonathan Martin is of the same height and weight (6'-5", 315) as 2012's best rated LT (Joe Staley). Plus, Jonathan Martin was tasked in protected Andrew Luck's backside. So here's the question. Given his less than adequate marks as a rookie, will this guy rise to meet the challenge as Long's replacement? Physically, we are talking apples to apples with Staley.

Staley's a freak of nature and probably the best all around left tackle in the game. On top of his supreme technique he's ridiculously strong and ridiculously quick.

Jon Martin got thrown around by NFL caliber defenders on both sides of the line. He wasn't 'beaten', he was 'beaten down' and discarded. Regularly.

Could Martin be a serviceable tackle on either side in the NFL? The answer doesn't even matter, the question itself necessitates a veteran LT to protect Tannehill.

Kaz, I find your summary above to be very accurate, as analyzed here, and predicted ahead of time: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1695609.

So it stands to reason, that unless Martin transforms himself into some offshoot of The Green Hulk, Philbin and Ireland will have to answer to that critical misstep. No matter how well they do with everything else.

Don't know why the link didn't link, but it can be found by Googling Jonathan Martin and clicking on the: Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford - CBS Sports link seven headlines down.

Stuff this, OC!

Hay men, who gives a shit about all this draft analysis, they're going to draft whomever and the hell with it. They only get it right about 10% of the time. Who thought that kid for Seattle was going to play like he did. He didn't even go in the first two rounds. Look at the running back the Redskins picked up last year. Lets see what happens and fock it.

Now, that little turd Shalala is a completely different story. She's not a potential draft pick, someone who's never played in the league, oh hell no, she's a 10 year vet who has stunk it up since she got here. Off with her head and off with your head Kazaam you ass wipe!

Last year before the draft, Jon Gruden had his usual QB camp and one could see that Russell Wilson was going to overachieve. That he performed as well as he did, credit all on him, but to those who mildly follow this period of NFL scouting could see it coming.

There's another draft option that Ireland might wish to seriously consider. By all accounts, the 3rd and possibly last starting LT, Lane Johnson will be selected by the Cards at #7. Cleveland sits at #6 and seem to be fixed on picking a starting corner. Cleveland also is limited in the number of draft picks they have, with no second round pick. Why not trade up to get your next long-term LT solution by trading first rounders with Cleveland. plus tossing in the #22 in the second round. The Dolphins would still have an earlier second rounder at #10 and would have all the makings of a young talented line for years to come, and Cleveland would still be able to draft a starting corner.

If you have a degree from the U then Shalala has been great. Decades back Duke was not that prominent. They rose in the rankings academically and people that graduated when it wasn't anything special benefited decades later by having Duke Degrees behind their name. That's what Shalala has done. Advanced the brand and given more value to the 50k per year degree.

Football championships come and go. We have done more with less than any other school in the country in terms of athletics over the last 30 years. I'd say we have done pretty well.

If you never went to the U and don't have the degree then you believe Donna sucks. But someone that graduated in the last decade say the same. She's dynamite, and to know her is to love her.

Football decline started with Coker and Donna didn't appoint him. Paul Dee did. Paul also hired Butch, so what can you do. I think Donna is loyal and I don't fault her for trying to bring diversity to the U. I thought Randy deserved a shot and everyone wanted him to do well. He didn't have success but I'm glad he had a chance.

As for the medical school, she's loyal and I hope the tide turns because there are good people there, politics aside.

As for the draft a couple players have my attention.
CB Rhodes, S Cyprien, DE Jordan, QB Jones, TE Kelce.

See this coming, OC.

OC, give it a rest. Last year at this time you thought that Russel Wilson was Dennis the Menace's next door neighbor.

Yep, you're a ho alright, Tep. Feel free to blow me anytime that you want.

"As for the medical school, she's loyal and I hope the tide....."

Bro, except for a few current or recent UM alums that weren't around during the U's golden era no one gives a rat's ass about the medical program or the tiddlywinks program.

Even if she just sat there in a room a blew bubbles out her ass and did nothing else IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT WE SUCK SINCE SHE GOT HERE!

You guys keep harping about our desperate need for a "Left Tackle"...OC, Kazaam and Tom.

sooooo when Martin starts there and does well are you guys going to give me props?...

just saying.

mouning guys, a little rain falling on the 305 as we speak, careful out there.

the U has sent a "motion to dismiss" letter to the NCAA

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/04/04/3324449/um-ncaa-motion-to-dismiss-keys.html

you gotta handed to Woodcock's girl friend and her legal team, nicely done, basically told them to dismiss the case now and shove it up your 'culo' (anus)...nice.

RE: the Nevin issue , I am a '83 UM grad & am embarrassed at the lack of control we have had in this issue! We suffered through the probation from the Erickson years so you would think with everything thats at stake the president of our University would be more attentive to these issues. I hate what the NCAA has done with this case but it has been negligence from the top at our University at monitoring this weasel (Shapiro) . I am certain President Shalala is a good person but if she stays we need an AD with broad oversight controls to report to her. Our athletic department is in shambles.I love UM but cringe everytime I read the paper and see this University's name dragged through the mud.I hope better days are ahead of us. A faithful Alum!!!!

FZB, did you actually read both the analysis by Pro Football Focus and CBS's 2012 pre draft synopsis on Jonathan Martin before asking me your last question, or did you disregard reading them after recognizing where the observations coming from?

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/28/ranking-the-2012-offensive-lines/4/

were coming from

Now there's a University of Miami alum with a brain in his head. Well said, Gary. You must have been the valedictorian of your class. You didn't happen to see a little snot nosed kid with jam jar glasses running around the stage during graduation yelling at Dr. Foote, "My auntie is going to have your job one day and she's going to be sooooooo goooooooooood. Nah nah nah nah nah nah." did you? Probably made you want to roll your diploma and shove it up his ass, right?

exellent posts OC. I echo your draft concerns and possibilities Miami is looking at.

Here's the Cliff Notes version, FZB. Now, I'm not saying that Martin was a wasted pick, but one cannot simply stick their heads in the sand or disbelieve their eyes during those times when an opposing player overwhelms Martin to get to the QB.

There is a red flag there.


From Pro Football Focus:

Stud: Mike Pouncey.

He finished the season poorly by the standards he set, but for a stretch of the season there wasn’t a better center in the league than Mike Pouncey (+17.6).

Dud: Jonathan Martin.

You spend a high pick on a rookie, then it’s likely at some point you’re going to want to see what you’ve got. Well, the Dolphins got a good long look at Jonathan Martin (-22.0) and they’ll know he’s got a long way to go before he becomes the player they drafted him to be.

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...and from CBS draft:

• Not all scouts agree that Martin has the natural strength to be highly successful as a pro pass protector.

• Some scouts believe that Stanford's zone blocking scheme helped Martin maximize his results and that he will need more strength to battle the behemoths he will encounter in the NFL. That concern was amplified when, after not working out at the Scouting Combine, Martin managed only 20 reps on the bench with 225 pounds at Stanford's pro day.

• Has only average strength to move defenders in the trenches and loses leverage battle in short-yardage. Pulling/trapping: Does not trap inside often, but pulled around end on occasion. Lacks foot speed and consistency in sustaining to be special as a move blocker.

• Does not dominate or sustain open-field blocks; lacks foot quickness, leading to overextending to reach targets, and has average upper-body strength.

Miami Dolphins comment:
Left Tackle & Offensive Line needs. IMO the team needs 1 - 2 players added to maximize this new offense. Eric Winston doesn't seem to be the answer because Ireland would have obtained him. Currently the team could use Martin at either tackle, John Jerry and Nate Garner could be placed at the other tackle. This shouldn't cut it if the team wants to dominate. The free agency pool for O linemen is void of any remaining real talent. Philbin told Jerry that his job depends on his conditioning, show up fit & you could start somewhere, show up fat & your gone. Garner is a great team player & versatile backup. Garner can spot start at any position on the line. Garner is injury prone and should never be counted on as a full time player.
Drafting O line in the first round would have caused a mutiny from us fans IF Ireland failed to infuse the offense with legit weapons. There are 3 OT's & 2 OG's talented enough for the 12th overall pick. OC is correct when he said that after Warmack, decent RT's & G's are available in rds 2 - 4.
At 12, I'd like to see Miami take the best OLine, CB, DE, DT available... there are only 11 ahead of Miami & historically there are surprises so someone like Warmack, Jordan, Milliner could be there. I'd even trade back, take a good player and grab an extra pick for the future.
Miami could trade some of the extra 2nd & 3rd rd picks for other teams 2014 picks. Playing the draft for not just this yr but gaining picks in the future is what great organizations like Pitt, GBAy, Pats do.
Peace out.

Good stuff, Jimbo.

Worth pondering... In 2012 the top two rated Offensive Lines were: #1 SF and #2 NE. Can anyone spot a correlation?

Here's the bottom line on this draft. This year the draft is full of dogs! Sucks for us. Same as when we picked Ronnie Brown and Jake Long. No impact players available, a bunch of scrubs all around. Like I said, sucks for us. Better to have one pick in a stacked draft like last year's than to have 13 picks in a down year like this one.

Both of those teams have registered astrologers running their drafts, right? Do I win a prize for that answer, OC?

No Woodcock, you missed the subtle reason. It wasn't astrology, it is simply the fact that both of those two teams have General Managers whose last names start with the letter "B". Trent Baalke for SF and Bill Belichick for NE. In order for us to have a good offensive line, Jeff is going to have to change his name to Bireland.

Then how do you explain that Super Bowl champion Baltimore Raven's general manager's name doesn't have a B in his entire name?

OZZIE NEWSOME

You need to put down the Coppola, dude.

You're getting ahead of yourself. We're discussing top offensive lines, not best GMs. The Ravens OL was rated as #17th best. Geeze, Woodcock, please try to keep up.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/28/ranking-the-2012-offensive-lines/2/

...and this fool actually thinks I'm serious...hahahaha.

"There are lies, damn lies, and statistics."

Mark Twain

Tell me, OC, which is the superior color, blue or red?

OC,

yes, I did read the Jonathan martin bio and I do share a little bit of your concern but I was told the guy does have a future at LT, he's major problam is lack of core strenght (mainly his lower legs) but also must improve his upper body, the guy was a pretty good player in college and he was rated as a first rounder in a lot of mock drafts.

at this time is just speculation on our part, maybe the Dolphins think the same way you do (and the others) but maybe they think the guy can hold his own.

Ireland doesn't like to trade his picks but he's not a dummy either, if he thinks he needs to go get a LT at the top of the draft he'll do it.

problam ?..hehe

OC you forgot ireland's middle name which has a "B" in it........"Bullsheett"

And as usual Kaz always has a different opinion.....

As much as I cannot stand Frodo's wife she is NOT responsible for that mess.......and further, I believe she has done everything properly so far with the exception of going on ESPN Outside the Lines and ranting & raving....

Oye Woody,

If the NCAA keeps facking around with us, we're going to sue the chit out of them, guarantee.

♫ Red - the blood of angry men! / Black - the dark of ages past! / Red - a world about to dawn! / Black - the night ...

Oye Naranja,

don't be hatin on my son Ireland.

you know he's done a good job so far...

Going back through the post Shula drafts I can find only one instance where I was sure of the player that we should have drafted with the first choice and my hunch was validated based on that player's career in the NFL. The only time was when Jimmy Johnson inexplicably traded down one or two picks prior to ours and did not select Randy Moss with our first pick.

Only God can predict the future, and there are even some on this blog who say that God doesn't exist so based on that premise, no one can predict the future. I get a chuckle when I read on and on the, "supposedly" intelligent and well analyzed pre-draft analysis by you guys about who the Dolphins should draft and who they shouldn't, etc. The NFL draft is a crap shoot all you can do is stack up as many picks as you can and when there's not an obvious pick that falls to you like a John Elway you roll the dice, take out the rabbit's foot, say a few hail Mary's and pull the trigger.

Oye nalga, you better come by my house tonight after you flim flam your tax guy into giving you a big refund and buy me a freaking beer on your dime before you head back across the Orange Curtain. I promise that you can drone on and on about some inane reason why we should be taking Bubba Aldridge from Tumbleweed State in the third round.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Oye,

Did OC finished his pad so the Mejicanos can ruined again?

just kidding OC ...hehe

Oh brother offensive line and draft talk wake me when it's over.

Worst draft memory Wanny taking that nickel CB when Drew Brees was on the board the Matt Ryan debacle was a close second.

Anti,

It says here that a "green" meteorite was found in Morocco, boy that sure looks like Krytonite to me, can Super-Man be far behind?..Just saying.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/31/mercury-meteorite-green-rock-morocco_n_2979678.html

Kryptonite sounds better..hehe

The only option I see is trading up to get Milliner it's so obvious I hope even Ireland can see it we have the picks to do it.

I have no interest in this draft beyond that possible scenario the team looks loaded right now a few more moves and it's 11 wins or bust.

BB, at least those picks were guys who turned out to be great NFL players but who didn't have the big pre-draft build up. Randy Moss was a phenom who could have probably played in the pros right out of high school. Everyone and their brothers knew that the guy was a stud and amazingly twenty some teams passed on him because of "some off the field issues." Yea, right, and the Bad News Bears would have won the league championship without Kelly Leak.

We're loaded? Who's our starting running back and what has he done so far to impress you that he's going to be the man this year?

Brees and Ryan were studs in college but Wanny liked Fiedler and Parcells wanted a game manager the incompetence we have had to endure the last 15 years is just absurd.

Which is why I credit Ireland for not flubbing the Tannehill pick plus he landed in our lap the luck we deserved for enduring the incompetence.

You could argue that the incompetence goes back a lot longer we had some bad teams in the 80's and 90's despite Marino's greatness.

Here is my official mock draft;

1/KC- JOEL ANTHONY TE
2-JAGS-HANLEY RAMIREZ
3-RAIDERS-JIMMY KIMMEL
4-EAGLES-HAN SOLO

ok,ok, I just wanted to see if you guys were paying attention.

1-KC --- L JOECKEL
2-JAGS--GENO SMITH
3-RAIDERS-STAR LOTULELEI
4-EAGLES-ERIC FISHER
5-LIONS-DION JORDAN
6-BROWNS-MILLINER
7-CARDS-LANE JOHNSON
8-BILLS-MATT BARKLEY
9-JETS-MINGO
10-TITANS-C WARMACK
11-CHARGES-COOPER
12-DOLPHINS-ANSHA

I've never heard of any of these guys except for Geno Smith, Matt Barkley, Hanley Ramirez, Jimmy Kimmel, and Han Solo, who the fock are these other guys, FB?

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