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October 11, 2012

Criticism of Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland fair or excessive? Poll. Vote; plus MLB Final Four set, my new video, NFL predix, Heat/Beijing & more

1aa1doom[1) It is SATURDAY, OCTOBER 13. New video! Me on Sunday's Dolphins-Rams game and the honoring of Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas. Click HERE to see and hear. 2) Thought Joe Biden won the VP debate last night, but thought Paul Ryan also did well and that it was close. 3) New song by Rolling Stones, courtesy Paste Magazine; click Doom And Gloom to listen. Sounds a bit generic to me but not bad, Mick. 4) Visit our video channel at YouTube/TheGregCote and join us on Twitter @gregcote]

Dolphins-Rams on local TV: Dolphins announced that Sunday's game will be televised locally. Also of note, RB Reggie Bush was added to the injury list as probable (knee).

DEFENDING JEFF IRELAND: I make the case in this new column that Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland, a lightning rod for fan criticism and likely the least popular figure in Miami sports, is maligned -- criticized unfairly. Has he been perfect? Far from it. But he has done enough right that fans 1aa1jeffishould get off his back. A point I didn't put in the column but will mention here is that the whole "Fire Ireland" movement, such as it is, has zero traction, because owner Stephen Ross is a big backer. The Dolphins finally appear to have the right QB/coach combination in rookie Ryan Tannehill and first-year boss Joe Philbin, both Ireland hires. The running game and run defense both are very good, equating to a solid foundation. Reggie Bush proved a smart signing. Mike Pouncey was a great pick. Seven starters and seven prominent reserves have come from the past three drafts. Ireland also had a voice in drafting Sean Smith and Brian Hartline, and in importing Cam Wake from Canada. Again, I'm not nominating the guy for NFL executive of the year. I'm just saying the cartoonish vitriol isn't deserved. Time to wipe the slate clean on Ireland. Judge him by the Tannehill signing and Philbin hire, his two biggest decisions. Then judge him by what he does in the coming offseason with all those draft picks and all that money to spend. I had an Ireland poll in the blog just a month ago, showing 70.9 percent with an unfavorable opinion of him vs. only 12.1% favorable and 17.0 undecided. I won't repeat that poll but will offer a different one. I think the anti-Ireland sentiment is softening, or at least should be. Let's see if these new poll results bear that out.

NFL WEEK 6 PREDIX: DOLPHINS A CLEAR FAVORITE (UH OH): I say "uh oh" half-kiddingly, because things are so unpredictable in the NFL -- take last night's Titans win over Pittsburgh -- that being 1aa1brosfavored hardly means anything. But I like Miami 19-13 over St. Louis (take that, Jeff Fisher!) because the Dolphins run-D will contain Steven Jackson and the Rams don't have a lot else offensively. Click on Week 6 Gems for all our latest picks. And click on JT & Zach for my Friday Page column. As Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas, 99 and 54, go onto the club's stadium Honor Roll on Sunday, I rank them among the franchise's all-time top 10 defenders. (Hint: They rank really, really high...)

BASEBALL'S FINAL FOUR COMPLETE AFTER NATS COLLAPSE: Loving this postseason so far. Bud Selig should be, too. A pair of historic wild-card play-in games, and then all four division series go to the maximum five games, a first. The results: Tigers-Yankees in the ALCS (after NYY wins with a benched A-Rod), and Giants-Cardinals in the NLCS (after STL last night overcame a 6-0 hole against Washington). Rooting interest: Strong for Tigers in the AL, mild for Giants in NL. Would have been much more interesting, for me, with O's and/or Nats.

1aa1chinaHEAT WIN IN BEIJING: Your Miami Heat beat the Clippers yesterday in Beijing, 94-80, in the first of two exhibitions in China. Pictured right: Chris Bosh being all adored and everything.

Poll result: Too much pink: I asked in the previous blogpost if a full month of NFL pinkness to promote breast-cancer awareness is OK or if it should be reduced to one week. The verdict: 59.5 percent said one week, 36.5% said keep it at four, and 4.0% were undecided.

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I think it's clear that Ireland is turning things around in Miami.

Benching Arod wow that was a bold move that paid off.

Question now is does he start him or sit him tonight.

Ok enough Yankee talk my head hurts now.

Perhaps he is finally able to make his own decisions with the little tuna around.

Mike Pouncey was the safest pick in the history of the NFL and came at the expense of trying to find a quarterback and fix the franchise. Ireland thought he had enough with Chad Henne.

Ireland can be irrelevant if he lucked out after being forced to pick Tannehill but there's no question he shares his mentor's outdated philosophy and lack of respect for the quarterback position. There is no excuse for Ireland's 2011 draft.

A star quarterback makes any GM look like a genius, not just on offense either, defensive players are thought of differently when they're on the national stage every year in the playoffs.

Green Bay's GM isn't a genius for all his picks becoming great players, he's a genius because he took a quarterback in the first round when he had a Hall of Famer on the roster and then took two more quarterbacks that same draft.

Kazaam things are at least looking better for the team no?

Anyone can see that at this point.

Tannehill looks like he may be better than every single QB taken in the 2011 draft.

Dalton is the only one maybe close but he wasn't a sure thing.

It may have been wise to wait for Tannehill he's going to be a very good QB.

If Tannehill is a star quarterback it doesn't matter that the Dolphins' owner, GM, and coach are chodes.

Dalton may be close? Dalton is a pro bowler, 111 completions, 1,345 yards 66%, 9 TD, 6 INT.

Tannehill has 97 completions, 1,269 yards, 57%, 2 TD, 6 INT.

But screw the result, it doesn't matter if any of the 2011 QBs are better than Tannehill or if Tannehill winds up hitting his ceiling as a game manager - Ireland was wrong to stick with Henne and draft a lineman.

The thing with QBs, Newton,Dalton, in there 2nd year, teams get a book on them. Now they don't look so hot. Lets relax with all the talk on Tannah, RG3. Now Luck looks like the real thing. Like I have always said, give me a QB who spends 4yrs in college. Time will tell with these guys.

No offense Jeff but as OC rightly pointed out you blew alot of opprtunmities. No way around that. Winning consistently could change such negative perdeption though...

A game manager?

No he's going to be much, much better than that.

That's the distinction between a star quarterback and the 20 odd QBs that have come through Miami since Marino. They have all been game managers, not gunslingers who can take over a game.

Tannehill looks like he could make that leap, but he obviously hasn't and the Dolphins aren't even asking him to yet.

I'm not willing to say Tannehill, Luck, or RG3 will be star quarterbacks, none of them have done anything yet.

Naples Tannehill is going to be better than RG 3 you heard it here first.

He is already progressing very well for a rookie.

When Brady retires or gets old he will be the best QB in the division and we will own you guys can't wait.

Tannehill made some big time throws in that Cincy game Kazaam lots of reasons to be excited.

Kazaam is a hater, the Dolphins are on the right track and Ireland is doing a good job the two years he has been in charge.

my point has always been he needs four years as GM in charge of ALL to be able for people to judge him fairly..With all due respect to OC, Duke and everyone else, I think we need to stand behind the team and Ireland for the next two years and then take a look, if the guy is clue-less and reckless with the cap and the draft I will be right there with you guys calling for his firing but up to now he has done nothing to warrant it.

and don't give me this crap he picked Henne,white traded for Marshall etc, those were not his moves,even Cote has said he needs to be judged since he has been in charge of all ..

Baby,

I agree with you 100% on our boy Ryan T-Thrill, we finally have our franchise QB, too early to tell if he going to be a top ten QB but our future is very exciting indeed.

Funny you mentioned that you think that he will be better than RG III but my buddy told me that there were more than one GM that thought the same thing, they said T-Hill's ceiling was higher than RG III, don't shoot the messenger and just relaying the info.

I could see him in the top 10 FZB in a few years.

This is a big game coming up we can't lose this one I don't think we will.

FAZ, I've been standing behind this team for 40 years. I ain't going anywhere. IF, IF Ireland evolves into more than what he currently is and Fins become champs I'll gladly admit Tha's why I don't get paid to make such GM decisions & I'll be grateful for a Vinny Lombardi Trophy be hoisted by even Alfred E Neumen. That's alot of IFS though.

Cote,

My compliments to you sir for having the cojones to write that article, it was fair and on point, maybe now some of Ireland's basher's will open their mind's a little bit to the possibility that he may be the right man for the job after all.

FZB. Sorry I work late shift and I'm still not conscience.

CONSCIOUS!!!!!

Dukes-Ter,

I'm going to the "Australian Pink Floyd" show tonight at the Fillmore on Miami Beach, I know is not the same thing but is damn close, I hope you guys can join me there..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYiahoYfPGk

who's FAZ ?...he he .I like it.

Combination od Kaz & FZB I think...

sorry guys, this is the one I wanted to post..they sound almost like the real deal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhXLaoelqKI

ireland's 2012 free agent signings: garrard,ochocinco,naanee,westerman,guyton,hicks,johnsonand the only one still on the team marshall(who isn't very good).
Way to shore up the depth.
And if you are giving him credit for sean smith & hartline give him blame for every bust draft pick as well, which are too numerous to list.
He is the worst talent evaluator ever.

FZB what do you think we can expect out of Gaffney Sunday?

I have a feeling that he is really going to help this team score points.

With Hartline and Bess on pace for 1000 yard seasons (sorry Kaz you missed on that one too), having a vet like Gaffney can only help.

Woodcock,

Obi will be speaking in Miami today, maybe you can call your buddy's from "La Brigada 2506" to go and protest for a while..

ireland's acorns..

I'm going to try to reason with you but I already know is going to be a challenge since your post suggests your ten years old.

the Dolphins didn't have a lot of cap room because of Parcells blunder's in free agency so he had no choice but to sign minimum type free agents, now none of those free agents got signing bonuses (only Garrard did) so cutting them was no big deal since we had 12 rookies make the team between college free agents and the draft.

Now I know that math is probably difficult for you but if you can count to two then you would know that that's the time Ireland has truly been in charge of everything...

and your last point, kindly tell me his draft busts the last two years and keep in mind that it usually takes 2-4 years to know if a player is going to make it in the NFL.

The "Fireland" bunch loves the delusion that the entire fanbase shares their vitriol but that has never even remotely been the case.

The fair assessment is that Ireland's record is a mixed bag of success and failure, like nearly all other GM's around the NFL (or any other sport).

Miami's fly in the ointment was not having a legitimate answer at quarterback. NOTHING was going to happen until that question got answered.

I believe with Tannehill it finally is being answered and this team is on the right track at long last.

Ireland isn't going anywhere, folks.

You are what your record says you are.....2-3

Talleywhacker has shown flashes but TD to Int ratio is atrocious.....rookie & is to be expected but need to put some weapons around him too truly see capabilities..

Cote may want to give him a clean slate......but any decent free agent out there will not.....bottom line is he may be trying to build thru the draft but HE WILL NOT LAND ANY MAJOR FREE AGENTS....The guys recruiting/sales skills are about as subtle as Ghengis Khan...

and please DO NOT GIVE ME ANY CRAP ABOUT REGGIE BUSH BEING A MAJOR FREE AGENT....(Guy is a potato chip, has not played a full 16 game season since he has been in the league..)

Big Baby - what are you talking about? What did I 'miss' on? Hartline and Bess are not #1 receivers, never will be.

This is the same genius fanbase that demanded the Dolphins draft Brady Quinn and trade for Kyle Orton.

How are those guys doing?

No Earthly reason to attach the slightest importance to what they have to say. I'd just as soon listen to Justin Beiber explain Nuclear Physics.

ted rational thinking is not allowed here on this topic except from very few so thanks for the input.

It will be fun watching people here backtrack and make excuses if the team actually has a good season.

Kazaam when are you going to get it through your head that you don't need # 1 WR's to succeed in this league.

And you call Parcells thinking outdated yeeesh.

Baby,

Gaffney can only help, Naples Jack thinks highly of the guy ,he is a proven veteran and will take some of the pressure off hartline and Bess, hopefully he is in shape and knows enough of the playbook to contribute this week...Our other problem on offense has been the lack of production from the TE position, too bad that Egnew and Clay have not step up to the challenge but they are still young players and they may turn it around.

This week is crucial, if we win on sunday going into the bye week our next five games are winnable, now I'm not saying we will win all those games but the team is improving and they are gaining confidence, also, the jury is still out on our coach but I have been very impressed by him, I think he is a keeper.

Orange Bowl,

a couple of things, I'm going to the Canes game saturday, you going?

Tannehill IS STILL a rookie but we are all excited because the kid looks like a stud, even you Mr Negativo have to admit it, he is still making mistakes but he has only played 5 NFL games plus he doesn't have a lot of help out there.

on free agents coming to the Dolphins, you are totally wrong there, players don't give a shit about what other players say about another team or another teams GM, they are always looking out for themselves, trust me they won't turn down any contracts, they will go where the money is.

Reggie Bush was not a free agent, Ireland traded spots with New Orleans in the sixth round for Bush and signed him to a two year extension when he got here, damn good move on his part.

Yes I will be there...(I am always there unless the earth happens to shiftposition)...used to be @ west 22 all the time, but since they started herding you into the stadium parking last year it all depends what time you get there....(Another GREAT FRIGGIN IDEA BY FRODO's WIFE.)

& You my friend are COMPLETELY wrong about how TOP free agents think. They are much like prized college recruits....You must WINE/DINE & make team look FINE. ITS NOT ALL ABOUT THE MONEY NOW...especially with every other team offering about the same amount...
It's called recruiting & He DOES NOT KNOW HOW.....

Now if you wanna sign all the Chad Ochocinco's of the world & call that a TOP FREE AGENT....Then it is you who are delusional by signing has-been's...

FZB...

We will pick this up later....I have a 2:45 tee time..

Every single playoff team last year besides New England had at least one true #1 receiver.

Welker's much better than Hartline or Bess. And the Pats brought in Brandon Lloyd in the offseason.

I'm confident in the fact we will be able to land a good receiver in the off season since there will be a few good one's available and hopefully we can concentrate our draft on defense and a TE.

we need a stud CB,DE pass rusher,LB and of course another rookie WR to groom for the future..

OK Cote, time to ask the same question of Donna Shalala. Let me be the first to vote on that. No the criticism of that cunt is not excessive in fact it's not strong enough.

Woodcock - what's your criticism?

Since she got here we suck.

Kaz, maybe Giselle will give Tom a season ending groin injury...

Woodcock,

oye, I'm going to the Canes game on saturday I'll try to wave so you can see our posse, I'm going to be holding a banner that says "cubanos for the enviroment"

he he

I'm starting to agree with you on Shalalalala, we can't even retain AD's anymore, maybe you should apply for the job..

Why do you blame Shalala for the football team sucking?

To answer my own question, you have no idea how college athletics work and have no causal reasons to blame Shalala and not Larry Coker and Randy Shannon for the football team.

But if you do think of any suggestions let me know and I'll pass them on. I'll be in the presidents box Saturday.

Kaz,

Can I hang out with you???..We can talk about my son Ireland also...

that's impressive Kaz, me ? I'll be hanging out with the poor people, those are the real fans anyways....

Kaz,

why don't you tell the guys the real reason you're going to the game on saturday???? we all know is because you're only paying a dollar for your ticket..

Kaz,

If you are REALLY going to hang out with Shalalala on saturday I think you might want to wisper in her ear that thy should consider Gino Torreta for the AD position...

just my opinion.

they should alo be talking to Pete Garcia the FIU AD..

Well, I see that Greg has masterfully - again - posted on a subject that would generate lots of discussion. Bravo, Greg.

As I've posted on a number of occasions before, Jeff Ireland's worth as a GM is not simply about who he picks or trades for. It goes beyond player salary or contract. Every team (check that) every SUCCESSFUL team has always had a strong, dynamic figurehead who brands the team with his persona.

Is there any question that Red Auerbach accomplished this through the Celtics? Or that George Steinbrenner did the same with the Yankees? Even Don Shula in Baltimore and Miami? One only has to look at the record books to see that there is a correlation between success and those teams which possess/ed a "strong" figureheads.

This "branding" must come from either the owner, the coach or the general manager. Without it, the team is destined for mediocrity or failure.

Now, can anyone make a credible argument that the Dolphins have such an individual in ANY of those three positions? If Steven Ross compares to Micky Arison, and Erik Spoelstra traces an indistinguishable image with that of Joe Philbin, does Jeff Ireland really eat at the same table as that of Pat Riley?

You get my point.

The Dolphins are NOT going to change ownership any time soon, leaving the role for dynamically forging to either the Head Coach or GM. How many of you actually believe that Ireland would ever hire a dominant HC? Anyone? Of course not. The answer is no, and strong, reputable coaching candidates all know this.

Until such a time that the Miami Dolphins possess one strong, talented, capable "brander in chief," the team will continue to be just okay. Nothing special.

OYE,

Dejate de "negativismo" consorte...

It's very, very sad no one wants to play with Jeffey, OC.

Big Baby- Relax buddy. He is already progressing very well for a rookie, really. What team has he beaten? Now Luck on the other hand, leads his team down the field at the end of the game and beats the Packers. The league is full of QBs who started out fast, then shit the bed. Sanchez is a prime example. The Jets go to 2 AFC title games with him, now the guy is such a joke, there fans think Tebow is the ansewer. I understand why the fans are excited but, give the guy some time. Cam Newton was the rage last year, how is that working out in Carolina right now?

Maybe if Boss Kubler-Ross hung a Prime Rib from Shula's Steak House around GM Fire Island's neck someone out there would at least talk to Jeffey.

Sickening

yes, but is his mother a prostitute?

prostitute lol. I forgot that Mongo question.

Touchy, touchy Mr. Cassel. You know who else was on touchy side? Chris Benoit...

Naples Tannehill beat a playoff team on the road at Cincy.

He had a 92 QB rating.

Luck beat a team with a horrible defense even though he does look good so far.

Ryan made all of the throws he needed to for a win and threw very well on the run play action was good.

I am not going Dennis Green on him but that was a big win.

Luck, RG 3 and Tannehill have thrown for almost the same yardage this season.

"Meng, if I got the job I would raise my salary hire my friends and family, steal everything that wasn't nailed down, sell everything that I could including the goal posts, and then skip town.

Brother, el tipo tiene la leche cortada. He's had the same gallon of milk in the fridge since he moved to Texas. Wassup OC!

Woodcock,

if you get the job, acuerdate del artista cubano..I can be your assistant...

Baby, Tannehill is starting to get recognition by the national media already, Yahoo sports and NFL.com and cnnsi just to named a few but is still early and he can still go in the tank but there is no question the kid's got the good's.

getting the QB in place makes it so much easier to get the missing pieces in place and the good thing about it is we already have a solid foundation with our offensive and defensive line in place.

lets go dolphins !!!

With three good WR's FZB I think that Tannehill will be dangerous.

Gaffney had a great year last year I know NE cut him but I think that he was injured at the time.

With the salary cap room for 2013, several aforementioned players that have made excellent contributions both from free agency and the draft, Jeff looks much better. One thing can be said about his former boss Bill Parcells; as an executive, VP of Operations playing the role of General Manager, Parcells really sucked. Parcells you are what your record says you are!

AS FAR AS ireland criticism: it IS JUSTIFIED because he HAS NOT MADE ENOUGH INTELLEGENT DECISION to this point. The team HAS HAD TO SUFFER FOR his lack of talent decisions. they are doing well now IN SPITE of him. Mostly due to coaching. He gets a little credit for that but Phlibin still has much to prove ALSO.
PLUS HIS lack of transparency and alienating the fan basse is why HE IS UNPOPULAR and WORN HIS WELCOME.
in the END, as fans we just want him or WHOEVER to do a COMPETENT JOB AT BUILDING THE TEAM BACK TO THE TOP.

Ireland is strongly backed by the only one that matters::::: Ross believes in Ireland. Ross refused to fire Ireland to bring in retread coaches like Fisher & Cowher and former Stanford coach Harbaugh. That in itself shows what Ross thinks of Ireland.

IMO Ireland has rebuilt this team directly in the last 2 yrs and indirectly while Parcells was calling the shots. Some hit & some miss. Tannehill's continuing growth & team learning to win will convert some of the haters.

We have gone around & around with the Ireland issue.


Kaz, I thought this was pic of GM Fire Island prematurely grey and AGED from working for Alfred E. Nueman's Miami Dolphins. However, the handcuffs had me perplexed...

http://blogs.herald.com/.a/6a00d83451587d69e2017ee40ea822970d-pi

duke, are you sure that's not a pic of Joe Biden?

Man, that old fart just pissed me off. I just wanted to climb in through the TV and kick his a**.

I bet latino-blooded Marco Rubio would have not been so polite.

Arrogant mofo.

I'm tryin' to be a better person so this is last inappropriate post I submit. Hows about putting a wellhung priest endowed with two filled to the brim nutsacks, an absolute MONSTER COCK, guards & inmates maintaining they saw nothing, heard nothing, know nothing whilst Big Jim Slade GAGS ole Jerry Sandusky to death...

Don't you mean Father Big Jim Slade duke? Very discresectful to leave out "Father."

this team was in shambles when ireland got here; and he was given control when parcells split that abruptly. every GM hits and misses, but the margin of error has been relatively small since we were so bad.
WE HAVE BEEN REBUILDING. it will take a little more time. they are already geared up for next year; this year was about tanny and the other picks.
it's the green bay model. it's all about the draft. don't expect big free agent signings; that cap room is to keep most of the free agents already here, and to sign the draft picks next year. with the amount of picks we have, a trade up could even be possible. this team is young, exciting, and they'll be at 3-3 for the bye week. you people hating on ireland are going to look really stupid in the next couple years.. just watch..

real dave,

"the week" magazine just came out with a page dedicated to LA's good old-fashioned, non chi-chi eateries and had my favorite deli of pre-kashrut days as a must, which it is; "langers" on 7th and alvarado across from macarthur park. besides the world's best (including nu yawk!!) pastrami sandwich (rye bread with seeds, of course), i always loved the fantastic tuna melt they make. of course i am not directing a nice jewish guy eat at a non-kosher restuarant, but langer's is the best. only other competition is nate 'n 'al's in beverly hills, where they know how to make e real proper salami and eggs and also serve sturgeon, another fine non-kosher delicacy. for kosher food, the pico deli on pico near robertson is just fine!

cannot disagree with you on the optimistic view of the dolphins; i stay out of the ireland debate and notice that very few are ragging on the team's owner lately, which i believe is a sign of contentment with the GM. i respect Kazaam a lot, disagree with him on many things, and same with his sparring partner FZB. both make impassioned defenses of their positions, always a good read.

how about stanford (not a favorite of the ole shadow) against the irish? says here the indians can run and stop the running of ND. the pac-? is a delightful, competitive conference with both oregon schools and USC hovering near the top 10; UCLA has come up a clunker vs, big brother cal and the only bad team is washington state, which still will score poinys under mike leach. USC and the huskies will not be a cakewalk- steve sarkhisian seems to have lane kiffin's number. another loss and USC is headed to the las vegas bowl unless oregon runs the table and plays for the vase. the rose bowl would never pass up the opportunity to keep the tradition of a west coast midwest "granddaddy of them all".

new favorite of mine tinkling the ivories (after art tatum) has been oscar peterson. i am not musically savvy enough to understand the brilliance of theolonius monk, but my jazz friend says he plays "classical" music in the guise of jazz;please advise, boychik. enjoy the Sabbath and the rest of the weekend.

What's up David and Shadow !!!,

I see you guys are already up and about (well maybe David is winding down so to speak) but "gracias" for your support.

I went down to the Fillmore on Miami Beach last night and caught the AUSTRALIAN PINK FLOYD SHOW for the first time, honestly I wasn't expecting much since you guys know "there's nothing like the real thing baby" but I have to tell you they were amazing and they acted and sounded just like the Floyd..

My kid,son in law and this old boy had a great time, and if you're looking for a recommendation I say it's a must see show for any Floyd fanatics like "mua" at least once..

VAUSTN..

apparently you seem to have an issue with my son Ireland, later on if you want we can debate it for a little bit, I'm ready today..I just drank some cuban coffee.

Now on to politics..

I missed the VP debate last night, I need a scouting report, somebody fill me in..

FZB,

acted like the real pink floyd, huh? did the roger waters impersonator pass the plate around and make an appeal for those peace loving friends of his, hamas and hezbollah?

Ok so he did well with the QB, finally, he has been here 4 yrs and finally got it. The coach was all Ross, since the writers of this paper said that Ross did all the interviews and he did them by himself. Lets not forget he passed on Clay Matthews, kept bringing in Cowboy rejects,like Colombo, gave up alot to get Marshall only to dump for less 2 yrs later and got ZERO for him or hasnt replaced him. He knew at begining of Hard Knocks,he had no WRs. But did he go out and get any? Oh yeah Anderson, he is making us all forget Marshall huh? If Ryan had a true number one, we might have different record right now, plus a kicker too. Then maybe we might get off his back, oh one more, Odrick, we drafted him number one, he has played like a 5th. Oh and does Thomas make anyone forget Ricky or Ronnie?

hezbollah... ha ha ha, he he, come on shadow didn't you know were helping hezbollah out. hezbollah, aren't they that new Indian restaurant in DC, you know the asian kind of Indian not the feather in the headband Indian that goes around "wo wo wo wo". Obama & I love eating their lunch buffet. You and Paul Ryan don't know DC like I do so don't say you do.

Next up - St Louis Rams

RB Daniel Thomas is out - concusion, Lamar Miller is in as Reggie Bush's backup.

CB Rishard Marshall is out - lower back, Nolan Carrol makes his 6th NFL start. Carrol played his best game of his career against AZ last week. This guy is the weakest link in a questionable secondary.

Joe Biden and Paul Ryan were atrocious, they just sat there and rattled off meaningless platitudes at each other for the benefit of the brainwashed lemmings watching at home (47%! Weak foreign policy!).

When they did talk policy, they argued over minutiae about the way they would take taxpayer's money and print out money from the fed for the special interest groups who are financing this election.

There is no difference between Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, don't waste your vote on those schmucks.

Greg Cote-- We know you & your political views are left of center. Claiming Biden won the debate is,,, debatable. You could agrue that Biden won because he had more opportunity to express himself by interupting Ryan. Joe was overly aggressive to the point of being an oaf. Whatever gains Biden made in explaining his position was negated by the arrogant show he put on.
Ryan did ok, presented what he wanted & acted respectful despite being heckled by BiteMe. I would have head butted Joe in the first 10 minutes.

Biden's gaffes- claimed that they were never told Libya embassador needed better security. A lie. He also claimed that he never voted for "paying for Iraq on a credit card", said he voted against it... he actually did.
Another point... Biden has debated on the national stage going back to his failed presidential bid in 1988. Ryan is a pup & a rising star.

typo..
Biden's gaffes- claimed that they were never told Libya embassador needed better security. A lie. He also claimed that he never voted for "paying for Iraq on a credit card", said he voted against it... he actually did.
Biden did vote for the war funding that he publically denied last night.

I thought that if you listened to the debate on radio.. Biden won. If you watched it on TV and saw Biden's antics.. Ryan won. If you watch internet clips of Biden's sneers, smirks, interuptions you get the impression that Joe was slamming a Wild Turkey & Red Bull shots before the debate.

Joe likes showing off his white dentures.

Biden won with the true Democrats/Liberals.
Ryan won with the Independents, Republicans/Conservatives.

Actually 'independents' went for Joe by around a 20% margin.

Doesn't matter who won, what matters is that America is losing this election.

If Romney wins, America wins.

Baaaah.

Jimbo it looks as if the window is closing on Pittsburgh.

Defense is aging and slow offense still good though.

Did anyone else watch that game though bad play calling for Pitt yeah let's play for a 54 yard fg to win the game.

Totally conservative awful play calling maybe Haley gets a bad rap for a reason as OC.

Yea, not like the Steelers would be any better if James Harrison, Rashard Mendenhall, Troy Polamalu, and LaMarr Woodley were healthy.

You don't watch much NFL do you Big Baby?

Your team defense is in the same boat.

Old and slow.

Window has slammed shut for Baltimore.

Cincinnati might be the best team in that division moving forward.

Haha, Baltimore has one of the youngest defenses in the league, after Ray Lewis and Ed Reed they don't have a player over 30.

They're not that good anymore.

I know, I know, the window's slammed shut on the Patriots, Steelers, and Ravens.

The Dolphins shall inherit the earth.

Go slurp beans you delusional Bostonian.

I don't live in Boston about 40 miles Southwest total suburbia.

Slurp desperate housewives then.

No, he lives 40 miles from Insanity...........

Oh boy ugly chiming in another negative Dolphin poster on here you and Kazaam should be holding hands and singing Cumbaya together.

And you & FZB should be playing "Taps"

You had to wonder what Biden found so funny when they talked about Libya, Iran, Syria, and our Intelligence dept. When you don't have any kind of record to talk about, I guess thats what you do. I am reading the book No Easy Day, about Seal team 6, now I know why the state dept is not to happy. The guy touched on the changes that the govt. made in 2009, with regards to handling special opps. missions. Pathetic!!! Our commander in chief wants to be nice to everybody.

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