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October 16, 2012

Blog exclusive: Dolphins' next finalists for Honor Roll (with poll, vote now); plus prez debate, NFL pix 'n fantasy, SOPY rankings & more

1aa1bey[1) It is WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 17. Beyonce (left) will be the next Super Bowl halftime performer as two teams try to put a ring on it. I like dat! 2) See results of latest Dolfan Satisfaction Meter (a season best) in blogpost directly below this new one. 3) Visit our video channel at YouTube/TheGregCote and join us on Twitter @gregcote]

1aa1obpumpDebate Night in America: A presidential rebound: I thought Barack Obama edged Mitt Romney in their 2.0 debate last night. Thought Romney clearly won first debate. Thought the prez bounced back to win last night. Question: What's scarier: An Obama pumpkin (right)? Or Paul Ryan making a sham of a soup-kitchen photo-op?

BLOG EXCLUSIVE!: HERE'S WHO DOLPHINS ARE CONSIDERING NEXT FOR HONOR ROLL: You know that Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas are newly minted as the 23rd and 24th members of the club's 1aa1dolhrstadium Honor Roll. (Click on An Example For All for the latest column by me on what Taylor/Thomas can teach the current team). Now we'll tell you, from a club source, who the finalists are to be inducted next. One or two are likely to be added as soon as next year, and you can help the club decide in this poll. Vote for as many as three (3) but only vote for players you feel are Honor Roll-worthy. Let us know if you 1aa1nextthink none are, or if you think someone isn't on the list but should be. The 10-man list includes three Super Bowl-era players (Manny Fernandez, Mercury Morris and Garo Yepremian) and five more recent players (Tim Bowens, Bryan Cox, Sam Madison, O.J. McDuffie and John Offerdahl), along with former owner Wayne Huizenga and longtime radio voice Rick Weaver. (Scroll to bottom of this post for a complete list of current Honor Roll indutees). Who should be next? My vote: O.J. McDuffie and John Offerdahl. No sure anyone else rises to the measure. The older players might, but they're adequately encompassed by the '72 team being on the Roll. OK, that's me. Your turn. Remember, you may vote here for as many as three. Let's do it!

Poll result: Wildly mixed opinions on Jeff Ireland: We asked in a recent blogpost if you thought criticism of Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland was excessive, and 40.2 percent said yes, 42.4% said no, and 17.4% were undecided. I actually take that as a fairly positive result for Ireland.

NFL PIX 'N FANTASY: I picked the San Diego Chokers and Philip "The Pick" Rivers to win Monday night. Not that I'm bitter or anything! NFL predix: Rough week. Aren't they all? Nailed my Upset of the Week with Packers over Texans ("Aawwk!"), had another outright upset with Browns over Bengals, had 'dog Lions and Giants with the points, and still managed only 8-6 overall and 6-8 vs. the spread. Greg's Lobos: Yay. My fantasy team woke up and won 140-135 to improve to 2-4. Lobos got a huge 50 from Aaron Rodgers but needed 12 from Ryan Mathews on Monday night to eke out the win.

1aa1nyyBASEBALL UPDATE: WE ARE ALL TIGERS: Anti-Yankees Nation exalts, cartwheels and dances a merry jig! Tigers leads ALCS by 3-0 now after last night and can clinch it back in Detroit tonight. Motown is only one of four finalists whose fans haven't cheered a World Series title lately so Tigers advancing feels right even beyond the NYY hatred factor. (Having said that, I do feel bad for Derek Jeter's injury). In the NLCS its Cards-Giants tied 1-1 with series resuming today at 4 in STL.

BROWNS FAN DUNKS HEAD IN BUCKET OF URINE: Well, I guess that headline about says it all. Click here to watch if you are not weak of stomach. 

SOPY RANKINGS (WEEK 7): FSU'S MANUEL STORMS TO LEAD: This college football season marks the blog debut of our weekly State Offensive Player of the Year (SOPY) rankings, which I like to call the "Sunshine State Heisman." Our chart encompasses the most productive seasons of any quarterback, 1aa1ejmrunning back or receiver from the state's seven FBS teams: Miami, Florida and FSU, FIU and FAU, and South Florida and UCF. (Note: Rankings consider only passing, rushing and receiving, not returns). Our formula awards one point per offensive yard gained running or receiving and a half-point per yard passing, plus six bonus points for touchdowns thrown or scored. Because our rankings are cumulative, players on a bye week take a temporary hit that evens out over course of season. After Week 7 it's Florida State's E.J. Manuel (pictured) bounding into the lead. The SOPY Top 10 entering Week 8:

Rank (LW)     Player, Team-pos.     SOPY Pts. Week=Year

1 (3)     E.J. Manuel, FSU-qb   248.5 = 1,178

2 (2)     Stephen Morris, Miami-qb     123.5 = 1,140.5

3 (1)     B.J. Daniels, South Florida-qb     BYE = 1,113   

4 (4)     Chris Thompson, FSU-rb     95 = 871

5 (5)     Blake Bortles, UCF-qb     137 = 845

6 (6)     Jake Medlock, FIU-qb     203 = 819.5

7 (9)     Jeff Driskel, Florida-qb     233.5 = 792

8 (7)     Mike Gillislee, Florida-rb     79 = 683

9 (8)     Duke Johnson, Miami-rb     47 = 646

10 (--)     Graham Wilbert, FAU-qb     129.5 = 590

Bubble: Mike James, Miami-rb, 571

State of the State rankings: 1. Florida (6-0); 2. FSU (6-1); 3. Miami (4-3); 4. UCF (4-2); 5. South Florida (2-4); 6. FAU (1-5); 7. FIU (1-6).

THE LIST: DOLPHINS HONOR ROLL: The 24 inductees onto the Honor Roll in chronological order:

1990: Joe Robbie, Larry Csonka, Bob Griese, Jim Langer, Paul Warfield. 1991: Nick Buoniconti. 1992: 1972 Undefeated Team. 1993: Larry Little. 1994: Dwight Stephenson. 1995: Bob Kuechenberg. 1996: Don Shula. 1999: Nat Moore. 2000: Dan Marino. 2003: Mark Clayton, Mark Duper. 2006: Dick Anderson, Richmond Webb. 2008: Bob Baumhower, Doug Betters. 2010: Jake Scott, Bill Stanfill. 2011: Jim Mandich. 2012: Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas. [Note: Selection committee consists of retired players Csonka, Griese, Marino and Moore, club president Mike Dee and owner Stephen Ross].

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Not a hugely impressive list.

I would struggle to get three out of it.

Ricky deserves to be up there. Second leading rusher in team history, over 10,000 career yards, rushing title in 2002, always tough, had a mediocre line and little help on offense. He could run through a brick wall in his prime. He and the Edge were the toughest backs at the time.

Honor Roll, Rick Weaver, Sam Madison,Jake Scott..Ricky has the numbers to be up there but I would not put him in..just my opinion.

second debate tonight boys, should be "interesante"

rooting for the Tigers?..A no brainer for me, I hate the Yankees...and GO Cardinals !!

even profootball talk is giving the Dolphins some love in the power rankings..

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/10/16/week-six-power-rankings-3/

realistically looking at our next 5 games @ Jets, @ Indy, Tennessee, @ Buffalo and Seattle we could go 3-2 or 1-4 , is that close..

I say lose to the Jets-Hope I'm wrong there
beat Indy
beat Tennessee
lose to the Bills
beat Seattle

20th??!! That's not respect FZB.

Peter King had them at 13 in his rankings yesterday.

The AFC is on the decline in a big way maybe we can actually benefit from that this year.

Time to break a sweat boys!

Since the Texans game Miami is a plus 23 in point differential.

Let's keep it going!

Let's get one thing straight. I'm not.

WHY ARMANDO'S POST IS CLOSED .

Because he's on furlough dumbo try reading.

Baby,

we started at 32, I say we are improving...your right about the AFC, other than the Texans,Raven's and Patriots who else there??..and the Ravens are in big trouble now.

Loco, make sure none of those juvenile teenager's you got posting over there follow you here..lol..

big baby,


WHY THEY DON'T GET ANOTHER GUY TO WRITE SOME AND KEEP IT OPEN FOR THE UNEMPLOYED LIKE ((( DASHI )) ?

Best Nole killers of all time

1. Ken Dorsey
2. Ed Reed
3. Sean Taylor
4. Steve Walsh
5. Jonathan Vilma
6. Michael Irvin
7. Dan Morgan
8. Michael Barrow
9. Santana Moss
10. Jeremy Shockey

FSU. YOU ARE NOW ENTERING DADE COUNTY.

5 CHAMPIONSHIPS > 2 CHAMPIONSHIPS. WE MAY BE DOUBTED, BUT YOU WILL SEE A TOUGH MIAMI SQUAD SATURDAY NIGHT IN DADE COUNTY.

Would you want someone else to write your blog for you?

Baby,

stop it, your falling into a trap amigo.

Baby, I'm trying to get tickets for the Heat's home opener against the C's on the 30th, it'll be cool raising the banner in front of those guys, he he

I CAN REMEMBER SO MANY GOOD MIAMI-FSU GAMES. WALSH TO IRVIN IN 1987, WIDE RIGHT 1 IN 1991, WIDE RIGHT 2 IN 1992, WIDE RIGHT 3 IN 2000, WIDE LEFT IN 2002, WIDE RIGHT 4 IN THE 2004 ORANGE BOWL, HESTER'S BLOCK IN 2004. WHEN YOU COME TO PLAY THE CANES...JUST REMEMBER. THIS ISN'T TALLAHASSEE. YOU ARE IN DADE COUNTY. I HOPE THE CANES COME UP WITH THE UPSET SATURDAY NIGHT. FANS..SHOW UP! WE BRING IT FOR FSU. I CAN REMEMBER GOING TO THE ORANGE BOWL BACK IN THE DAY AND THERE BEING 75-80,000 PEOPLE AT THE GAME. BAD ASS. MAKE SOME NOISE SATURDAY NIGHT! GAMEDAY'S COMING BITCHES!

I WOULD.IT'S A FINS BLOG.IT'S NOT THAT IMPORTANT .LOOK @ COTE,HE WRITES HIS CRAP DESPITE NO ONE COMES TO READ IT.

FZB I am usually good at ignoring you on the other hand not so much but thanks.

Plus he asked nicely and mentioned your boy by name hehe

FZB IS A BROWN DONKEY.

Dashi is the man,

like Naples says all the time, the world according to Dashi, I say this, he is entertaining for sure.

Thanks Loco, coming from you I say that's a compliment..

I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING..WE NEED TO SELL OUT THIS SATURDAY AND MAKE THE NOLES SCARED TO PLAY IN DADE! COME ON CANES! LET'S GET LOUD AND CREATE THAT HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE LIKE WE USED TO! GET ON YOUR FEET!! 5 CHAMPIONSHIPS! RESPECT IT!

hee haw hee haw

It's Dashi The Dominican Donkey.

Hee Haw Hee Haw Hee Haw Hee Haw.

It's Dashi The Dominican Christmas Donkey!


Jezzis Cote, the Jackass lantern of Obama looks just like Vladimir Lenin. Freudian slip son?

What? You mean Kollen, Manny Fernandez, Kiick, and Morris, aren't in the honor roll. Wow, that's a shock to me. Half the guys on that list, "including Bob Griese, the most overrated player in the NFL Hall of Fame, were worse players than these four guys.

There is a great Rick weaver link on youtube that I cant seem to cut & paste right now.....its all of Marino's touchdowns the year he broke the TD record.....hearing that voice brings back soooo many memories...

WOW all I can say is I can remember sitting in a car to listen to him when the games were blacked out & I couldn't get to the O.B..... waaaaay back in the day...(JRS was still swampland)

TRULY A GREAT RADIO ANNOUNCER.....made you feel like you were in the stadium.....

County,

Why you mad bro....??....

THIS SHOULD GET EVERY CANE FAN HYPED FOR SATURDAY NIGHT. FSU IS IN DADE COUNTY FOR THE GAME. HOPEFULLY IT'LL BE ANOTHER CLASSIC WITH THEM MISSING A FIELD GOAL AT THE END. EVERY CANE FAN NEEDS TO WATCH THIS AND MAKE SOME NOISE!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh786IhucF4

Big Baby,

why are you hatin on my man Dashi ???

Orenage, I think senor "COUNTY" is a little agitated.

Bad news for you County.......ever since we moved to that stadium there is no REAL home field advantage.....
There is no fear walking into that sterile stadium....

Orange Bowl was another story.....The INTIMIDATION began when the visiting buses rolled up & looked at those rust stains coming down the concrete wall just wondering if the place was going to implode on them...walking into a locker room so small they would elbow each other taping up.....Then hearing those DEATH SCREAMS (in all languages) from only a few feet away as they came out of the visiting tunnel....And once the pain started on the field it would only get loUDER & LOUDER!!!! As the fans would begin to jump up & down and that mecca of a stadium began to shake....no scratch that..DANCE !!

THEY SPEAK OF RING OF HONOR....

HOW ABOUT THE ORANGE BOWL!!!!!

It is the Orange Bowl curse........

Fins left the old girl & they haven't been back to a superbowl since.....

Canes left.....& it hasn't been pretty so far.....

I voted for my brother Garo

THE OB WAS INCREDIBLE. I LOVED THE OPEN ENDZONE FACING EAST AND DOWNTOWN. YOU KNEW IT WAS A HUGE GAME WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE EXTRA BLEACHERS IN THE OPEN ENDZONE. THE PLACE WOULD JUST VIBRATE ON THE DAY OF A BIG GAME. I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE SEEN WIDE RIGHT 3 IN 2000 AND WIDE LEFT..THOSE WERE SOME LOUD GAMES IN THE BUILDING'S FINAL YEARS. I DON'T THINK IT GOT LOUDER THAN THOSE. THE CONCOURSES WERE SO CRAMMED. AND I REMEMBER BOTH THOSE GAMES GOT OVER 80,000 PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING. I WENT TO THE BATHROOM (SOMETHING YOU WOULD RARELY IF EVER DO AT THE OB) FOR ONE SERIES DURING ONE OF THOSE GAMES AND I REMEMBER HEARING A ROAR FROM THE CROWD AS IF A STAMPEDE WAS COMING. GOOD TIMES. THAT'S WHAT IT WAS ABOUT. A HOT OCTOBER AFTERNOON, A TOP 10 MATCHUP, FUTURE STUDS IN THE NFL ALL OVER THE FIELD (REED, JOHNSON, PORTIS, WAYNE, MOSS, VILMA, MCKINNIE, ETC.), AND UNBELIEVABLE FINISHES. I'M HAPPY I CAN SAY I GOT TO SEE THAT. THE CANES DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF BUZZ TO THEM NOW, BUT THEY'RE GROWING. AND PEOPLE!!!! SUN LIFE ISN'T THE OB, BUT IF WE HAVE A PACKED HOUSE THAT WILL CREATE A BUZZ. COME ON GUYS.

Look what they did to Soldier Field....

Look what they did to Lambeau field...

Instead you got the pirates of the... hhmm sorry i mean the commissioners making back door deals and now we are stuck with that over-sized blimp hangar (A.K.A. The Big Chalupa)....

Talk about desecration & destruction of tradition for a group of bastards who continue to fleece us & bend us over for their own amusement.....

IT'S ALL ABOUT DOLLARS AND CENTS IN MIAMI. THE BANANA REPUBLIC GOVERNMENT DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT TRADITION & COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT THE FANS WANT.

DO I MISS THE OB? ABSOLUTELY. WAS IT HOME TO SOME GREAT MEMORIES AND UNBELIEVABLE FINISHES? WITHOUT A DOUBT. BUT THE FACT IS THE CANES AND DOLPHINS ARE AT JOE ROBBIE NOW. TIME TO CREATE A NEW BUZZ THERE. START BY SHOWING UP. MAKE SOME NOISE SATURDAY NIGHT.

chirp...chirp...chirp...

yeah new buzz at Joe Robbie or whatever the hell it is called now. The only buzz I hear is from the power lines nearby. That place is dead. The only time it is sold out is when the Noles, Gators and Jets come to town. Otherwise it is FZB and a couple of random dudes.

rawpimple,

at least your thinking about me..he he

Patsy fans show up in droves to SunLife I would say at least 10,000 when I have been there.

I hall call upon my minions to help The "U against those red skinned ba$tards.
Go FINS, GO Canes.
BTW, The minnions will be with Mitt tonght to take on Obama,Palosi,Franks,Cote,Maher and that lefty lesbian Rachel Maddow.

The Biggest Travesty is Mercury Morriss not being there already.

Csonka and Warfield(as much as I love em)bailed for the MONEY!

Put Morriss up there and get it over with already!

Beyonce?

Like all this Pop-Hip Hop hasn't played out already.

Maybe......MAYBE if she does a strip tease as part of her performance, I MIGHT get interested.

Then again, alot of times they're better off leaving something to the imagination.

I'll render my verdict AFTER the Strip Tease.

Otherwise........YAAAAAAAAAAAAWN!!!!

Delmon Young just put another nail in the Yankee Coffin!

Who woulda Thunk It?

Mr. Woodcock,

i am not sure that with howie long enshrined in canton that bob griese is the "most overrated player in the NFL HOF". bob griese was a two time AFC passing leader, went to three consecutive super bowls, and won two of them throwing a total of less than 20 passes. he would have had three but was hurt by deacon jones and missed most the perfect regular season. don shula made the right call giving the ball back to #12 for the playoffs even though his long time second string QB, earl morrall, with both the colts and dolphins, was the 72 AFC passing leader. his record when csonka, kiick, and warfield, and morris (i believe) left town to jump to the WFL was pretty darn good as i recall- one of his passing titles came in 77 after they were gone and his big offensive guns were elsewhere and most of his incredibly great offensive line were either gone or over the hill. in the nowadays when "game managers" are held in such high regard, bob griese qualified as that way back. griese was terrific talent in college, runner-up in the heisman race his senior year to spurrier, and with the arrival of shula and his staff became a top-flight QB on a top flight, former expansion, team. as maddog, RIP used to say, when the jets were the opponent and namath was also a great game caller in addition to his sometimes rocket arm, the dolphins believed their guy-griese- was better than the jets QB, no slouch himself. griese had his skills hidden by the dolphins exquisite running attack, but they were there. i was not a fan of the dolphins as they beat my beloved bengals and ended the career of the most overlooked player in NFL history, essex johnson of cincinatti; but when the dolphins and griese continued to be potent with the likes of don nottingham and norm bulaich running instead of csonka and merc, i came to appreciate griese and his abilities with the arm and the brain. won more passing titles than the also under appreciated dan fouts. no question to this observer that griese belongs in canton with the rest of the dolphins of the early 70s, whom he guided to greatness.

Mr. Shaddows,

Nice post. I was never a Bengals Fan, but I agree Essex Johnson was a Man among Boys-lol! It's great to hear names like that being brought up this many years later.

Merc didn't leave with Csonka, Kiick and Warfield. He was traded to San Diego in 1976.

shadow, that 9:57PM post was sheer poetry to these ears.

odinseye,

mr. essex was a great runner and passcatcher with long gains abounding during his short tenure with the bengals. today's surgical techniques would have brought him back to greatness, but he was a victim of the times. i was devastated when he got hurt in the opening round of the 73 playoffs down here in the orange bowl.

dukey,

glad you enjoyed the rather lengthy "poem" posted at 9:57 but with my two-finger typing skills probably begun at 9:30. i understand those who state that griese was made great by the team on which he played, but i disagree drastically with them. a winner in college, a winner in the pros, not much in the TV/radio booth. if you can handle the radiocasts that are 7 seconds ahead of the TV picture, you'll hear jimmy cefalo declaring "the dolphins are showing blitz on 99% of the defensive snaps", and he loses track of the players- not good for a radio guy. still pine for the wonderful rapport and excellent reporting on radio of bill zimfer and our beloved maddog, RIP.

VIVA OBAMA.............................

VIVA OBAMA...............

VIVA OBAMA........

obamamelamama

OBAMA CLEANED THE EMPTY SUIT ROMENY TONIGHT ,,,,,,,''


VIVA
OBAMA.

Keep snorting Drano, Al. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Posted by: the shadow knows | October 16, 2012 at 09:57 PM

--------------------------
One of your most eloquent posts.
Another GREAT Bengal, Kenny Anderson. Today would be the MASTER of the West Coast offense. No one, even Griese was more accurate on the short quick throws.
Smooth and effortless.

regarding the Griese/Morrall thing,You KNOW it had to be difficult for Shula to take the ball away from Morrall, a close friend/tough competitor, with whom he had a history. It all worked out,a and Morrall was the ultimate teammate.

Looks like Obi (the fool on the hill) was a little feisty last night, too bad he was just telling lies after lies to the american people.

and then you have teenager's like ALOCO that believe all the chit he says, aahh to be young and stupid all over again.

Shadow, an Essex Johnson reference?..my goodness.

Bob Griese was an alright QB, accurate and cerebral and he had that monster behind him (the Zonk) that could get him a first down anytime he pleased..

ODINSEYE, nice to see you around this parts.

ROMENY MAKES UP NUMBERS ABOUT THE ECONEMY IGNORING THE MIDDLE CLASS LIKE BUSH DID.

FZB,

essex johnson was marshall faulk before marshall faulk was marshall faulk (and who is with essex johnson, one of my favorite HALFBACKS ever). check out essex johnson's numbers when he was healthy before the 73 playoff game, and you wioll see he was a weapon running the ball or catching it.

Rick Weaver needs to be up there.
Check it.

IMAWriter,

ilocked into the bengals in 1972 due to their absurd offense in the great game of "strat-a-matic football". because bill walsh was their OC, virgil carter (BYU) and then kenny anderson were throwing in the mid 50% completion range, a rarity in those days. along with essex johnson, bob trumpy, bruce coslett, jess philips, and many more offensive talents the shadow's bengals could score, but got trampled righteously on defense becasue the line stunk, even with mike reid, a "6" at tackle and even with bill bergey and tommy casanova, ken riley and lamar parrish in the defensive backfield. in trhose days if you couldn't stop the run you were meat for the powerhouses, which the board game bengals and the real team were. the crying shame is that the bengals were in the same division as pittsburgh, and making the playoffs was a very tou go even for a gifted team which the bengals were. the second wild card was added because one year houston's oilers finished 10-4, losing only to the steelers and bengas in the divison, and were locked out of the playoffs. that year may have seen the strongest diviion in NFL history; also a division that had the 4 best punt returners in football: swann of the steelers, greg pruitt of the browns, parrish of the bengals and the terrific billy (white shoes) johnson of the oilers.

Bob Griese sucked donkey dicks. Worst football player in the NFL Hall of Fame. His bust should be displayed on the wall of the men's restroom.

Sorry guys,My minnions were stopped at the door last night by the Dodd brigade.Looks like another 4 years of "Leftyism".

There is no difference between the big government money shuffling policies of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

Vote for Gary Johnson.

Bob Griese in the HOF is a joke. When a team can put Earl Morrell on the field and still win a SB is all you have to know. The guy averages 12-15 passes. The team had a great run game, and great defense. Thats how they won. As for Mercury Morris, very good RB, not great. Will be remembered by a lot of people as a cocaine dealer who spent some time in the slammer.

The President did not present anything new, or what he is going to do differently. I know which way I'm going.


Beyonce?

Like all this Pop-Hip Hop hasn't played out already.

Maybe......MAYBE if she does a strip tease as part of her performance, I MIGHT get interested.

Then again, alot of times they're better off leaving something to the imagination.

I'll render my verdict AFTER the Strip Tease.

Otherwise........YAAAAAAAAAAAAWN!!!!

Posted by: odinseye | October 16, 2012 at 09:13

Agree Mr.Odinseye, I Too look forward to a "Wardrobe milfunction".

I Have a "five part plan"
Elect me and find out what it is.

VOTE NIXON MEN! PRESIDENT RICHARD MILHOUS NIXON! He learned from his missteps and he's BETTER THAN EVER and BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER NUMBSKULL CANDIDATE!!!!!

Odin, Better Beyonce then some 80's old school rockers like Rolling Stones, who really wants to see a bunch of old guys head banging on stage.

alrighty then,

so since Obami took office 4 years ago there are more people unemployed (about 9 mil),
more people have simply given up looking for work,
there are more people on welfare,
gas prices have doubled which results in everything else going up,
our national debt/deficit is through the roof,
we have no cloud on foreing policies
our ambassador and three others were brutally murdered on a terrorist attack and his administration kept lying to the american people saying it was the result of a youtube video.

other than that I guess voting for this clown is OK..

Greg, naturally you thought Obama edged Romney. In stating so, you missed an opportunity to demonstrate to your readers that you're a guy who can go beyond party partisanship.

Anything short of a complete collapse by your guy would have been ruled a victory by you and a media so deep in his corner that all of you must surely dust off pocket lint every time you make a public appearance.

The true winner yesterday was the candidate who presented a convincing enough platform to actually convinced undecided voters to pull the lever for their side. Period.

Further, any reasonable analysis would render that these "undecided" voters already know what Obama brings to the table, AND IF nothing new is presented by the incumbent, that they will most likely vote for the other guy.

I didn't see anything new from team Obama, did you?

Winner, Anyone who's undecided should not be allowed to vote IMHO, Your either with the left(Obama,Pelosi,Franks,Dodd,Bill Maher,Rachel Maddow,Greg Cote) Or your with ANOTHER change, Either way the American people will suffer again.
BTW, Does anyone know what"Five part plan" Mitt has?, I want to throw my influence towards Mitt, but what is his "Five point plan"??, Anyone?

Here you go, Anti. Although I doubt you'll take time to actually read it.

http://www.mittromney.com/jobsplan

If you read any of it at all, please read the "One Pager," executive summary.

Anti-Christ,

I don't know Romney's five point plan or one point plan but ANY plan is better than anything Obi can come up with..

Dukes-Ter, I'm with ya on Mr. Nixon...under-rated as a president for sure.

btw, anyone who has ever climbed management ranks in a "business setting" would instantly recognize how such a plan could and would work.

Unfortunately, most of America remains clueless.

FZ, read the damn link!

If you Conservative fools think Romney will be better running the country your're dumber than I thought. Romney wants to stick it to China really the same country US is 14 trillion dollars in debt too riggghhhtt. The best thing we have going for the US is our Military, believe me if Romney wins will be going to war. Possibly China, South Korea I wouldnt be surprise. As commander in cheif a quaility that is a must is being diplomatic, there is nothing diplomatic about Romney, just an arrogant rich cocky SOB, yea thats who we need as Commander in Cheif. Mark my words if Romney wins, America will be in multiple wars.

Clue, you forgot to put the "less" at the end of your name.

1. energy independence (more federal subsidies to big oil and alternative energy companies), 2. free trade and stopping China from 'cheating' (whatever that means), 3. more education (more federal money for student loan programs), 4. cut the deficit (by raising taxes, not cutting spending), 5. champion small businesses (this one is tax cuts).

I am 'undecided' in that I see no meaningful difference between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney and am disgusted by both of their big government policies.

Romney's pledge to end the estate tax and lower capital gains tax if you get your income under $250K would save me and my family millions and allow me to manage my portfolio without tax considerations, but that's about the only thing swinging me one way or the other.

Earth to Conservatives and Liberals most politicians are excellent liars as in this case with Romney and Obama both have lied and refuse to acknowledge each other lies. But in this case Romney is the biggest liar out of the bunch. If Ron Paul wasnt so old and came off as more of a "people" person he'll prob be best for the country, but we all know the president is just a figure head, the global elites runs the country if you dont know about the global elites google it, you'll be intrigued.

That's the spirit, Kaz. Nothing like hitting the ole pocketbook to make you FINALLY pick a side.

FZB, plus people forget his presidency was only part of pic. He may have fallen from grace but he also took the long path of redemption in acknowledging missteps and serving as advisor WHEN ASKED by every president except Jimmy Carter. Carter who probably needed his counnsel more than any other president... He wrote several bestsellers and I believe he had a stroke while working in his office, which ended his prolific life. This was one tough hombre.

oooh, look at all these shinny little objects!

and the winner is...

chill amigo, I'm at work now and can't read it but I'll do it later..geezz.

The One Pager is a 30 second read.

Oye Clue,

You're an ass-clown or an ass-wipe..take your pick

FZB, Neither thanks for the childish insults. How old are you again?

Just trying to open the eyes for some of you sheeps.

If you gonna wanna know more you can follow me
@FZBEATA D I C K

stick to the dolphins, FZB.
you're blaming obama for gas prices? really?
gas prices are controlled by speculators on wall street, NOT the president. did you use gas prices as a reason to vote against bush when they were actually higher then they are now?
look up speculation.
look at who actually changed the rules to allow speculators to make fortunes investing on the backbone, (for better or worse), of the world's economy.
yeah.. you guessed it.. republicans.
as for the debt, every president has run a debt since the founding of this country.
next point.
the deficit?
were you this concerned about the deficit when bush spent a $230 billion plus surplus into a deficit?
or when your fake hero REAGAN increased the debt at a faster rate than obama?
or when REAGAN RAISED TAXES 11 times to deal with HIS recession, which was miniscule compared to the mess obama inherited?
according to the pew fiscal analysis initiative:
“Between 2001 and 2011, about two-thirds (68 percent) of the $12.7 trillion growth in federal debt has been due to new legislation. Forty percent of this legislative growth was the result of tax cuts enacted after January 2001, and 60 percent resulted from spending increases".
that legislation would most certainly include 2 wars put on a credit card.
this happened 10 years ago. you retards love to say "he keeps blaming bush"; like no one is responsible for this nightmare..
and foreign policy? you sound like an idiot.
it took bush 8 years and 2 wars that had very little to do with 911, and he STILL couldn't dismantle al qaeda.
obama did it in less than 3 years.
4 embassy workers in the middle of a civil war make us look bad, even with obama getting bin laden?
guess what, mr genius:
2 wars that bankrupted this country into depression and 3000 dead ON OUR OWN SOIL damaged our clout more than anything the black guy did.
get over it.

Hey Clue,

Did I hurt your feelings??? ..

wow David, I guess I hurt your feeling too...hhmmm.

All I know is that my take home pay is less now than four years ago.
I pay more in taxes now than four years ago
I pay more in gas now than four years ago
I pay more now for everyday necessities than four years ago..etc..

are you getting my theme here?..your guy was clue-less on the economy four years ago and he is still clue-less now..Romney may not be perfect but he is better than that clown you guys call president, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Thank you United States Government for thrwating Al Chaeda(sp?) attempt to blow up Federal Reserve in NYC. You continue to do an outstanding job protecting America.


Here you go, Anti. Although I doubt you'll take time to actually read it.

http://www.mittromney.com/jobsplan

Posted by: and the winner is... | October 17, 2012 at 02:47 PM

Sorry guys if The Anti Christ sounds"LEFTY" But the bottom line is Mr Bush took us to Irag claiming WOMD., None were found, Not even a wiff of them, American money for this about a trillion dollars...
And about 5 thousand fine american lives, Mean while the Lefty Barack claiming he'll fix the problem that Mr. Bush created, He Tried, He really did, But Bottom line is you can't fix the unfixable, George W Bush f%cked up this country so bad it may never be fixed, Dont get me wrong, the troubles of this country goes back to Slick Willy where he thought EVERY ONE should own a house, This is a problem that Barack and Mitt might not be able to fix... OMHO.

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