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September 18, 2012

On Jeff Ireland: Vote now; plus Beinfest out?, state of our Big 4 teams, Chad Johnson, Dolphin WR prospects, Ozzie on the (other) f-word & more

[1) It is FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 21. Thanks to the Dan Le Batard show on 790 The Ticket for having us on in-studio. Fun. More to come? Stay tuned. 2) Visit our video channel at YouTube/TheGregCote and join us on Twitter @gregcote. Promise to resume the videos soon.

STATE OF THE FRANCHISE: DOLPHINS, HEAT, MARLINS, PANTHERS: In this latest column by me, online now and shipping to today's/Wednesday's pulp editions, I offer a state-of-the-franchise report for our four major professional teams, grading and ranking them 1aa1jeffitop to bottom. We consider management, success, prognosis, everything. I thought about adding a complementary poll here but decided it would be pointless because, logically, the Heat would dominate as our best-run pro team. Instead I offer a poll on South Florida's biggest sports lightning rod, Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland, who was in the news again this week when a Dolfan confronted him, said he should "fire himself," and Ireland in turn called his critic an "asshole," later expressing regrets. There is a perception Ireland is extremely unpopular with fans. Leave it to me to find out. Vote in our poll and say why.

Poll result: Mixed, lukewarm support for Ozzie Guillen: In our previous blog poll we asked if you wanted Ozzie Guillen back as Marlins manager (you can still vote), and 49.1 percent said yes, 45.1% said no and 5.8% were unsure. Interesting. Results about as polarizing as the outspoken Guillen tends to be.

REPORT: LARRY BEINFEST TO BE REPLACED: USA Today is reporting the Marlins plan to replace president of baseball operations Larry Beinfest with assistant Dan Jennings. Beinfest has been GM or president since 2002. The move would not be a surprise. The same report indicated manager Ozzie Guillen likely would be back. No surprise there, either. Owner Jeffrey Loria tonight called the Beinfest report a "ridiculous" rumor. Which is not the same as simply denying it.

CHAD JOHNSON SPEAKS!: The former Dolphins receiver spoke last night on the 9 p.m. premiere of Showtime's Inside the NFL, and we brought you excerpts first. Highlights: 1) Johnson says, "The consequences to that altercation with my wife was me being released" -- even though coach Joe Philbin did not tell him that directly. "That was the reason. There is no need to blow smoke up my ass." 2) Johnson reveals he is taking anger-management classes, says, "Chad has to work on Chad." 3) He says he will work to win back the wife who divorced him.

DOLPHINS DRAFT PROSPECTS AT WR: Be surprised if wide receiver wasn't the Dolphins thinking right now for a No.1 draft pick in 2013. With that in mind, I note the three WRs listed on Mel Kiper's new top-25 "Big Board" are spaced apart enough that Miami, no matter how it finishes, likely would have a shot at one of them. The names to remember: Tennessee's Justin Hunter (pegged 7th overall), Cal's Keenan Allen (17th) and USC's Robert Woods (25th). 

STANLEY C. PANTHER OUT OF WORK: I half expect to see Panthers mascot Stanley C. Panther on a 1aa1stanleycwest Broward intersection holding a cardboard sign reading, 'Will Caper For Food.' Panthers have temporarily laid off their team mascot related to the NHL lockout threatening the season. Is there anything sadder than an out-of-work mascot? I'd imagine Stanley C. Panther must now be included as one of Mitt Romney's non-tax-paying 47 percent. I'm just saying.

ON STEVE SABOL: The NFL Films leader passed away today at age 69. NFL Films' dramatic, intimate packaging and presenting of the NFL was a big part of the league's emergence as America's favorite sport. It also was precursor to all-access shows such as HBO's Hard Knocks and Showtime's The Franchise. R.I.P. to an important figure in the history of sports and television.

ON YUNEL ESCOBAR: The Blue Jays shortstop is suspended three games for wearing an eye-black message written in Spanish (pictured) that used an anti-gay slur. He said it was meant as a 1aa1escobarjoke and "not meant to be offensive." Some suggest it's a cultural thing, that in the machismo of many Hispanics homophobic language is more accepted. I think that sounds like an insult to the majority of Hispanics who know bigotry is wrong in any language. What gets me about stuff like this is not just that Escobar might feel this way. It's that he (evidently) thought wearing an anti-gay slur on his face in a televised game would not, um, be noticed? Leaves us to wonder which is worse: Prejudice. Or outright obliviousness.

Ozzie weighs in on use of gay slur: Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen admits he is comfortable using the anti-gay slur "faggot," the word that got Escobar (see above) in trouble. Guillen once was disciplined for calling a Chicago columnist that. Yesterday he explained it as a cultural thing, saying, "In my house we call [each other] that word every 20 seconds. I've got three kids. For us it's like, 'What's up, bro?'" Ozzie lives his life unfiltered, which is fine. But Marlins ownership/management, in reviewing this season and deciding Guillen's future, must judge not just his managerial skills, but how he represents the team in the community. See Steve Rothaus' excellent Herald blog, Gay South Florida, for more on this. 

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I voted pro Ireland... seems most voted against...
Really he needs an Incomplete. Obama wants a do-over, so why not our own Jeffrey?

I really preferred Kathy Ireland. The girl used to grace Sports Illistrated swim suit editions.

Now that I think of it, I used to gush with pleasure on seeing pictures of Kathy Ireland in Sports Illustrated. ahhh, the days of my yute!

mike1,

unreal match for real madrid against city; did you see mourinho do the goal scoring "slide"? city did manage 2 away goals should it come down to that, but i think they'll get past dortmund and join RM in the round of 16. terrific ending despite some flawed netminding by joe harke; didn't see altobelli in the nighlights- will check later to see if he was on the pitch at the beginning of things.

RE: steve sabol, A"H

countless memories of great NFL films productions- favorites are the wired hank (matriculatin' up the field") stram in the SB #4, and the first of the wired coaches on the sidelines with abe ("jeremiah was a bullfrog") and whoever the oilers' coach was ("you're killing me, ref, you're killing me") with the look of constipation on his face. as stated, countless memories, plus the voice of john facenda. could watch the old NFL films stuff non-stop.

My vote was nothing personal on Jeff Ireland. I wish he had succeeded.

Based on Ireland's acquisition performance over the past four years, he's been a failure as the Dolphins' general manager and should be fired.

You all know my position on Jeff Ireland, what's really surprising to me is the lack of understanding by some of you guys.

you guys are blaming Ireland for all the personnel decisions made under Parcells and you are assuming he made them, this is not that difficult guys, he has been in charge for two years, he should be judged for those two years only...You can check the personnel decisions made by other GM around the league for the same time frame and he compares very favorable, better than most.

Jimbo said he should receive an "incomplete", could not have said better myself, two years in not enough time to judge someone, already he has made much better draft decisions than Parcells did, don't believe me?..Check the Tuna's draft record for the 2008,2009 and 2010 drafts.

you guys are wrong on this one, time will prove Jimbo and I correct..

yeah.. i say say boot obama.. he couldn't turn around 30 years of republican fueled deregulation, trickle-down failure, tax cuts whether there's a surplus or a deficit, 2 wars waged without a way to pay for them, and corporate greed in less than 4 years; what a loser.. lol
as for ireland, he's in a similar situation as our beleaguered president; it's going to take a little more time to fix years of neglect and abuse. has he made mistakes? of course he has. but considering this is his 2nd draft class, i'd say he's doing pretty well. running back, quarterback, center, and defensive line are all solid, and there's youth and speed at most positions.

another thing, not too long ago there was another poll taken just after the draft and Ireland's approval rating was over 68%..

so the guy just became dumb over the span of 4-5 months?

think you guys, the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

David in LA, thanks for your support on Ireland...

you know how Kazaam will react, he is the ring leader of the fire Ireland campaign...

later

david. what? there is more regulation now then ever.

I'd keep Ireland... for now. What if for some odd reason, Dolphins start to win. Would you change your mind?

By Omar Kelly, Sun Sentinel Commentary

8:43 p.m. EDT, September 18, 2012
Jeff Ireland's never going to win any popularity contest in South Florida.

Even if rookie quarterback Ryan Tannehill turns into the next Aaron Rodgers the Dolphins fan base will find a way to give coach Joe Philbin and offensive coordinator Mike Sherman credit for Tannehill's selection.

And that's fair. It's a rite of passage for every sports fan to nitpick the job a general manager has done, pointing out the shortcomings on the roster, and the one Ireland built had a faulty foundation. But he wasn't the main architect.

Ireland has come to terms with being the fall guy for the scam Bill Parcells ran on this once proud NFL franchise.

He was riding shotgun as GM while Parcells built the Dolphins on an outdated blueprint and selected the wrong quarterbacks — Chad Henne and Pat White — early in NFL Drafts. He had a hand in picking the groceries for the three seasons Tony Sparano's teams produced a mediocre 20-28 record. There is no denying any of that.

But owner Steve Ross pardoned Ireland with the hope of maintaining some continuity inside the organization would push Philbin's vision forward faster.

"I'm committed to him," Ross said before the season. "If I had any doubts, he wouldn't be here."

And that's coming from a man who typically gives Dolphins fans what they want, and these days they want Ireland's head on a platter.

That's what this summer's protest outside the team facility was about, and why Ireland cursed at a fan during Sunday's win over the Raiders.

Ross will eventually offer Ireland up as a sacrifice if the Dolphins flounder this season, going from mediocre to bad. And if they do, at this point, five years running this team, Ireland has no one to blame but himself.

It is too early to have a knee jerk reaction on the Dolphins rookie class, and I'm talking about every player, from Tannehill, Jonathan Martin, Olivier Vernon, Lamar Miller and Michael Egnew. Rookies do need time to blossom.

But it is time to take the players drafted in 2009-11 out the oven, and check on their status.

Even if Parcells was the man pulling the trigger those draft picks are on Ireland too, and they represent the nucleus of the 2012 team. That means they are either problems or solutions.

Will Sean Smith, a second-round pick in 2009, blossom into the elite cornerback his size and athleticism hints he has the potential to become?

Is Brian Hartline, a fourth-round pick in 2009, enough of a playmaker to carry this passing game against better teams than Oakland?

Can Reshad Jones and Chris Clemons, two fifth-round picks who've collectively started 32 games for Miami, become respectable starting NFL safeties?

Does Koa Misi, a second-round pick in 2010, continue to make an impact as a 4-3 outside linebacker?

Can center Mike Pouncey and right guard John Jerry, two early draft picks under Ireland's watch, stabilize an offensive line that presently has Miami ranked as the NFL's second best rushing team?

The Dolphins traded up to select Daniel Thomas in the second-round of the 2011 draft because they believed he'd be a physical tailback who would compensate for Reggie Bush's shortcomings. We haven't seen that on a consistent basis yet.

The Dolphins have managed only two sacks in the season's first two games. It is on defensive end Jared Odrick, the Dolphins' 2010 first-round pick, Vernon, a third-rounder in 2012, and fellow rookie Derrick Shelby to contribute more quarterback pressures.

The Dolphins offense lacks a seam threat tight end who can challenge safeties like Yeremiah Bell, the former Dolphins captain who was cut because of his limited coverage skills.

Bell's presently starting for the Jets and if Miami can't exploit his known limitations there's a problem. Charles Clay, a sixth-round pick in 2011, and Egnew, this year's third-round pick, are supposed the type of weapons Bell struggled with, but each has fallen short of expectations so far.

Ireland's finger prints are on all those players, so if they don't pan out, if they fail to develop into solid NFL starters or respectable contributors, there's nowhere to point fingers of blame but at himself.

That's certainly the direction Ross will be pointing to if the Dolphins don't produce a respectable season, providing the fan base proof the organization is headed in the right direction.
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plucked off Omar Kelly of the Sun Sentinel.
Sums it up

Jeffrey needs another year to prove what he really knows away from the all knowing BILL PARCELLS!!!!

Ummmmmm.Best thing I ve read this morning is from the guy who said he d rather have Kathy Ireland.Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.I think so.That sweetheart was gorgeous.Count me as a Kathy Ireland vote-in........er write-in or whatever.

Thanks for the post Jimbo, Omar Kelly's article is dead on which is the reason he has to get an incomplete grade, at least Omar has the balls to call out Parcells,none of the other media guys have, of course the clueless fans just go with the flow, is so much easier to blame than to think, Parcells stole money from the Dolphins, at least someone is paying attention.

we will know in two years but I like the direction the team is going, we have a lot of young guys that have potential..

Jimbo,

the dolphins are the second best rushing team because reggie bush broke off a 70 yard "run bomb" sunday. they still allow guys into the backfield and haven't shown they can get a first down running on 3rd and 2-4 yards needed. lamar miller had a nice jaunt into the end zone, but they are gonna live or die with reggie bush running. one has to notice how many times he is met by two tacklers as soon as he gets the hand-offs; if it wren't for those plays, he'd be averaging 8-10 yards a pop. maybe when daniel thomas returns he can carry a few times and prevent the opposition from "keying" (old-school term which i haven't heard on TV/radio in years) on #22.

Joe,

kathy ireland looked/looks like she has a double chin; no on her, yes on brooklyn decker or bar rafaeli.

Kathy, one of the favorites. Smarts too, as demonstrated by her most recent feature on Fortune Magazine claiming her to be the most wealthy supermodels (probably a republican).

Not bad for being 49 years old, eh?

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/02/24/kathyireland_480x360.jpg

I voted "Unfavorable. He should be gone."

Had Cote placed a category of - "Disgusted. He should be made to perform services in Liberty City for four years," then I would have picked that one.

Ross is sticking with him.

Only way he goes is if they miss the playoffs this year and next and show no progress along the way.

This topic has become so tiresome.

OC,

respect your opinion but I just don't agree with it, you obviously think he is responsible for all the mistakes made in 2008, 2009 and 2010 and won't give the guy the benefit of the doubt and won't even consider the last two years.

read Omar Kelly's article again, he states that Parcells was the main culprit just like I've been telling you guys for a while now, Ireland was there and he had a hand in it but remember they were drafting for a philosophy that was antiquated, powerful, big and slow, power running game etc..But make no mistake about it Parcells pulled the trigger on all the decisions, if you take your hate glasses off for a minute then you would realize the guy has done a good job since he's been in charge...You're a little blinded buddy, no offense.

Watching Hard Knocks the guy looks competent to me and he has been around football awhile.

I am giving him the benefit of the doubt FZB.

71 percent unfavorable right now so it looks like it's just us mostly.

No, no, no. A thousand times NO!

My opinion concerning Ireland has ZERO to do with whom he's picked or hasn't. Whether it was Parcells behind those recent moves or not.

One can make distinctions about an individual through their philosophy as much as their actions. Jeff Ireland has made an impression on me that he believes every player - WITHOUT EXCEPTION - MUST fit HIS expectations of what a player must be. His character, conduct, demeanor. Hell, his pedigree might even be in play, as far as Ireland goes.

Jeff Ireland is RIGID. And I don't mean in a Viagra way. He is inflexible and THAT makes him dangerous in today's market of TALENTED players.

I don't give a rat's ass about who he picks, or has picked. Beyond that, he has also demonstrated his preference (to me, anyway) for taking the course of action that maximizes his chance of job survival. He shut the f**k up when Tuna was picking the likes of White, he shut the f**k up when Ross was spewing compliments about Henne.

All taken into consideration, the guy's character is that of someone who would do just about anything to keep his job, even if it's the WRONG thing. And of someone who would never give an honest chance when considering a player, who while may be talented and an asset, would possess a negative trait of some kind or another as viewed by him.

Hey real david in L.A. Jeff Ireland would make a better president then OblameO, 5 trillion in debt in 3 and a half years, above 8% unemployment for 43 months in a row, real unemployment figures based on work force when OblameO took office 11.5%,the middle class is shrinking, ObamaCare that promises to raise taxes, but oh yeah, we won't know what's in the bill until we pass it! ZERO votes for his budget in both the House and Senate, lmao! How's his Middle East policy working? He thinks some obscure film created the mess, wait till he spikes the ball with his Hollywood film about killing UBL! Yeah Ireland would be better at running the country than this amateur we got in the White House.

In answer to Jimbo's question. Obama inherited a mess created by Bush and other GOP criminals whereas Ireland created his own mess. Like the Bush mess, it will take the next Dolphin GM decades to correct.
GOP: a mental disorder. That is the problem with the Phins. GOP owner.

FZB - stop telling everyone they're blaming Ireland for Parcells' mistakes just because that's the only narrative you can argue about.

Omar Kelley said that Ireland's partly responsible for those picks, I don't even need to go that far, I've explained many times why Ireland should be fired based on his 2011 draft.

Wow OISage, how do you manage to walk with your head up your ass.

Forget it Cane, Dapper Dave might know lots about kazoos and mouth organs but he doesn't know jack about the Beatles and he knows even less about good government.

Ireland Michael Egnew was the fourth TE taken off the board, and in the third round (78 overall). He is a converted WR who struggled to block linebackers. His NFL draft grade was 71.5, yet he was selected on the notion that he would create receiving mismatches due his size.

The Bengals selected Orson Charles from Georgia in the fourth, a more traditional TE who can block. A TE graded much higher (79) than Egnew. The Bengals took him in the fourth round (#116 overall).

scratch 'Ireland' off the first paragraph.

Not bad OC.

Woody,

I'll be flying in tomorrow. Talk to you later.

I couldn't give a rat's ass if he stays or goes. I do care about that bitch Shalala who has ruined Miami Hurricanes football single handed.

Once again definition of insanity.......

Lets ammend it to include - Give Ireland more time.....

You have 3 paying customers at your game and you insult one of them....Thats not good business practice... (And for those of you who say "I would have done the same as Ireland & called him an A-hole" -I say to you - THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT....

Then again - this from a guy who could have upgraded the receiving corps but asks would be #1 pick if his mom's a prostitute...

Not only does he not know about players - He has ZERO business acumen....

FZB - yesterday perfect example of irelands idiocy - PAtriots bring in Winslow @ TE & your 3rd round pick who cant block or catch was still INACTICE after 2 weeks... GOOD DRAFTING!!!

one way or the other in time we will know who's right on Ireland, Baby is right we are really talking about the same thing over and over again, I'm also getting tired of it myself...Now let's talk Jets and Dolphins.

I think the key to this game will be our offensive line, they seem to be getting into a grove, pass protection will be the key against them because they blitz a lot but I think we can beat them.

our defense is stout against the run but our LB's can't cover anybody so they will probably be able to pass the ball on us..Also Tannehill needs to take care of the ball.

Orange Bowl,

Most everyone is behind Ireland on this issue why am I not surprised you're not.

are you and Kazaam related?..he wanted the Dolphins to sign K Winslow too, for your information there were 31 other teams that passed on the guy, you know there is a reason why he was available and why two different teams gave up on the guy just this year alone, if he had anything left none of those teams would have cut the guy and you can bet that when Hernandez is healthy again he'll be on the unemployment line.

so far Michael Egnew is a bust, but are you really ready to give up on the guy after just two NFL games?, it just shows how little you know about football.

why don't you praise the guy for the drafting of Tannehill, Martin,L Miller, Pouncey etc or he gets no credit for those?..Oh yeah I forgot, Philbin made those picks right?

Cubiche, one thing that Orange Bowl is right about is that you can't be calling your customers ass holes, bra. Just not the way to run a business. If I have an employee curse out a season ticket holder he's done.

Woodcock,

I agree that the customer is always right but Ireland didn't call the customer an ass-hole to his face he was taken by surprise and walking away and talking to himself, that's what was reported and the guy (Sean)even said there was no confrontation, trust me I deal with customer's all the time and I have called a few of them ass-holes but never to their face, that's what Ireland was trying to do but he talked too loud.

I can guarantee all you guys would have reacted the same way if you found yourselves in the same predicament, its human nature.

Everyone is making this a big issue and its not..

Little Jeffy,
Buh bye.....

FIRE JEFF IRELAND NOW!!!

Everything he touches turns to shit. He has the Parcells touch!

RAGGING ON FASANO?

the guy is a good blocker and seems to make dificult catches, as he did sunday or a TD. he is a TE in the mold of yesterday's TEs-not a jimmy graham or aaron hernandez of gronkowski who don't block but who make yardage after the catch. the fact that the dolphins don'y have a threat at wideout is making the natives restless for a gazalle of a tight end who can't block. fasano is adequate as i see it.

FZB,

So let me get this straight.....Winslow is not an upgrade to Eg-who..?!@#$.......& sometimes 2 games is all you need to know they aint gonna cut it....How many games did Pat White play before they figured it out??...Oh yeah & a wasted 2rounder....

I think it is you who know nothing about football...

Oh yeah FZB & you state up there that most of you think Ireland should stay except for Kaz & I, but take a quick look at the poll....

72% say he should go..thats almost 3/4 of people who voted......I dont know if you have seen any elections lately but it is VERY TOUGH to get a 70% of people to agree on anything!!!! It would seem you are the minority opinion here....

Woodcock,

Agreed ....we need to get rid of Frodo's wife before anything good happens to the Canes again....

Jury still out on Golden as far as I am concerned...He has shown me he can recruit, but he hasn't shown me he can COACH... & I don't wanna hear that crap about how he got Temple winning....It is ALOT EASIER to sneak up on people when you are Temple.....When you are at the U however you have a target on your back every week...

HE hasnt shown me he can adjust during the game....He comes in with a game plan & cannot think outside that box on the fly....

Football 101 - When you are away from home you want to control the clock & keep your defense off the field(especially that defense)..

instead I go hurry up & THROW the ball 85 times in 2 weeks.....hhhhmmmm....(lest not forget he was outcoached 3 games last year as well)....

FZB, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because you have to break a few eggs to make an omelette, and because Ireland has only been running the show for 3 years. I will not give Kazaam or that bitch Shalala the benefit of the doubt, there's no doubt at all. She's been there for over 10 years and in her tenure the Miami Hurricanes have gone from national championship to national chumps. If we were living in Cuba they she would have been cutting sugar cane 6 years ago.

Bart Starr played for a series of losing teams until Vince got to GB. Johnny Unitas was cut by the Steelers. Sometimes it takes a little longer for guys to pan out. But ten freaking years is enough to know that that bitch Shalala should be run out of town.

I gotta tell you I put the Castro brothers 1 and 2 on my shit list and no one is even light years close to them............but in third place I have that troll bitch Donna Shalala. Screw her and the shetland pony she rode in on.

Orange Bowl,

Its obvious you either have a learning disability or your reading comprehension skills are very suspect.

I said that back in april right after the draft that the Palm beach post had a poll in which 68% of the people that voted said they were very satisfied with the direction of the team and the job Ireland was doing, I know what the new polls says and it just goes to show you the mood swings all you guys have, look I get it you guys want Ireland replaced but I have some questions for you and everybody else.

lets say Ireland gets fired at the end of the year, a new guy comes in with his new philosophy and fires Philbin and all our coaches and starts from scratch, does he get rid of most of the current players?

what if the new coach wants to go back to a 3-4 on defense?

what if he wants to go back to a power running game?..does he get rid of J Martin?..and I can go and on with the rest of the roster, now all these changes will take a long time, he needs to re shape the roster for what he wants and he's new coach will want, are you guys willing to give the new GM A MINIMUM OF FOUR YEARS TO COMPLETE THE OVER HAUL?

this is why Ireland needs to stay at least two more years, he and Philbin seem to be a good combination and whether you like it or not this years draft is shaping up to be very good for the team.

a couple of other points, the Dolphins are rebuilding with young players, Winslow would not be an upgrade over Egnew for this team , when you are rebuilding you rather keep a young player with upside over an older player on the downside, the Patriots are in a different situation, they are going for the SB this year and Winslow can help them get there, with us an extra win or two wont make much of a difference.

two games is not ample size to know if a player is a bust or not (Egnew), hell it took Paul Solia four years to make it, this is not an exact science but you seen to know everything, maybe they should hire you to run the team.

Your post's lack substance,you mention the Dolphins should get rid of Egnew after only two games into his NFL career and you don't even realize that it usually takes 2-4 year's to know if a player is a bust or not
players mature differently, Marino was a stud from day one, Paul Solia sat on the bench for four years, I stand by my statement, you DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL..

Woodcock,

thanks for your support, he he, I feel like I should be getting paid for this, what I am is a die hard fan that sees the team going in the right direction and a change now would be counter-productive to the teams future , just my humble opinion.

and I have said this before, if after the next two years the team is still floundering with no clear direction I'll be the first one calling for the guy to be fired.

Oye, so OC is in Cali now?..going back to Tejas?

have a good safe trip OC...

Hang in there FZ. So far Ireland is way outside my radar sweeps. Unfortunately I have this little two foot tall turd right dab smack in the middle of my screen that no matter what I do it's always right there keeping me from seeing my beloved Canes play at the FREAKING LEVEL THAT I'VE BECOME ACCUSTOMED TO SEEING! AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Oye Woodcock,

just so it doesn't take you by surprise, GT is going to run all over us this saturday, we're in for a long afternoon buddy, take some prozac before the game to relax you a little bit.

FZB

it seems you are the one with a learning disability....because you cant add......you say 4 years & ireland has been here for 5!@#$%

And Solai is a stud??? On what planet??.....It took 4 years for him to be an average player at best!!!!
You have some serious rosy colored goggles if you think he is a stud....

Only thing ireland has built in that time has been a good case of hemerhoids!!!

I've got a better idea to relieve stress. I bought a speedbag and had Shalala's picture stenciled onto the leather. Every day when I come home I spend 15 minutes knocking the shit out of her bag. It's not the same as actually punching "the old bag herself" but it comes close.

Sad but we do agree on another thing.....Canes are going to get 500 yards of offense put up on them....maybe more if we continue that hurry up crap & continue to expose our defense...

Time of possesion is highly over-rated in Goldens book....

Orange, Yes Ireland has been here for 5 years but only the last TWO has the MAN in charge of everything, there is a difference.

like I said, one of us is going to be right, we'll just have to wait.

GT is has the number three rushing offense in the NCAA and we have the 107 rated run defense, dios mio!!

Hate her for her politics but don't blame her for the football team.

If you blame her for the football team, you necessarily believe that Larry Coker and Randy Shannon were great coaches and that Dr. Judy Bonner has more to do with Alabama football than Nick Saban.

Woodcock,

Kazaam may have a point with Shalala, Paul Dee is the one that hired Coker and Shannon, I know what your saying about her but those two guys ran the program to the ground.

worry not my friend, Golden will right the ship..

Jeff Ireland is to GMs what CamCamMoron is to head coaches. Ffng clueless.

Kazaam you are clueless too. Judy Bonner is the interim president at Alabama having just been named this past summer for the recently promoted Robert Witt. Next time do your homework.

Woody, BRAVO for strengthening the argument I've had for several years regarding Donna Shalala. At this point, i truly believe she prefer UM sports in the former division 2.

As I posted somewhere yesterday, athletic dollars seem to be in short supply at UM, but not so as regards international studies, etc. This makes it difficult if not IMPOSSIBLE to hire super quality ASSISTANT coaches, the true teachers of the game. Saban's staff, Les Miles, Urban, etc. big state schools with $$$ to burn.
No home stadium.

However, I offered in her defense the FACT that she tried to lure Wisconsin coach Barry Alvarez to um as HC and AD.
I, and most of the fan base screamed at this "supposed" indignity. WHAT? a ground and pound HC?

Well, the Wisconsin program, headed up by Alvarez as AD is thriving. UM?
Not so.

Mr Woodcock:

As I said GOP is a mental disorder. Say what you may, we understand you are limited in the mind.

As regards Ireland, IMHO we're seemingly judging ireland's job efficiency primarily on his drafts. I just as concerned by hi lack of numerical success in FA, compared to the HUGE amount of money he's committed.
Can we agree that out of the dozens of FA's ireland has either signed, cut or considered, only Bush, perhaps Cam Wake, Dansby (WAY more money than he's worth so far). and with Parcells guidance Fasano (not great, but better than some) and who else? Burnett? No, Slaton?, no. Naanee? Yeah, RIGHT.
I could go on, but for every serviceable FA my respected friend FZB can bring forth, I promise you I can present 2 on the other end of the spectrum.

This is serious cap money that is gone into several players that would start for all but the bottom feeders...which, TW is ireland's modus operandi, BOTTOM FEEDING.
if I see, hear, or smell the word ACORN again, I'll cyber-puke on the perpetrator.
Especially when NE resigns their WR, Winslow, and we don't.
Ask me how I REALLY feel about this arrogant putz.

Sorry, meant to say WOULDN'T start.

Olsage, like most liberals, when you have no facts, you resort to insults.
Not worthy of you.

URAWriter - well what is the argument against Shalala?

Athletic dollars? Get the f*ck out of here, UM spends as much as anyone, the new Schwartz athletic center costs more than the one Alabama is building and will be done first.

Home stadium? We rented the Orange Bowl. And more fans went to Bethune-Cookman than three crappy games in the 2001 championship season.

Seriously, I'm all ears, Woodcock's never offered any argument for how Donna Shalala ruined UM football, just keeps pointing out the correlation between the timing of her arrival (which happened to correspond with Butch Davis' recruits matriculating) and the program going down the tube.

The previous president Tad Foote actively wanted to dismantle the football program. Never spent any money and consistently said that UM shouldn't be focused on being #1 in football.

Shalala at least appreciates what a good football team can do for the students' college experience, she would like UM to have a great football program.

Fortunately and then unfortunately, university presidents have nothing to do with football programs.

I get the UM alumni newsletter? Do YOU?
\By the way, it's IMA. You a liberal?
Shalala has allowed 2 athletic directors to totally screw up the program. One of them is currently screwing up the Texas Tech program.
BTW, you are TOTALLY incorrect regarding university presidents. florida football had a resurgence cause the President personally recruited Urban Meyer.
G Gordon Gee, the bow tied moron at OSU, was prez Vanderbilt a few years ago.
He unilaterally decided that Vandy DIDN'T NEED AN AD. So he got rid of the position.
That has recently changed, and a REAL football coach is there. Results are already better, though you'll prolly point out the 2 close losses as failure.

Um, who was the president at Alabama who convinced Saban to leave the Dolphins, fire4d a coach with 2 years left, and got Saban?

BTW, quite often, the President and trustees decide who the new AD will be. Does THAT not affect a schools program?

How about some facts when you respond/
And with my correct User Name. I don't need to screw with people's user names to make a valid point.

Right, coaches run football teams and university presidents hire athletic directors who hire coaches.

So what was Shalala's mistake? Should she have fired Paul Dee immediately for having hired Butch Davis? For having hired Larry Coker? For firing Larry Coker? For hiring Randy Shannon (which NO ONE complained about at the time)?

Was it hiring Kirby Hocutt? The guy who made an unpopular hire with Al Golden?

If you want to say she should have fired Paul Dee and hired someone to fire Randy Shannon a year earlier than he did, yea, sure. That would have been a good move.

But the problem with UM football is they had two bad coaches in a row. Period.

Blaming Shalala is lazy and easy for those who don't understand how universities work. But it's pointless, Shalala's going to be here until 2016 or until MomentUM2 reaches $1.6 Billion. And her hand picked successor, Tom LeBlanc will be as irrelevant to UM football as Shalala and Tad Foote were.

Notice I never respond to Woodcock, if you want to say 'the buck stops with Shalala', fine, that's true.

Just don't try to argue that there's an actual causal connection between her and the football team's performance. There isn't.

Shalala just likes flashing dah U sign. Although we all thought she was flashing the U sign when she was indeed flashing something else. How do I know? Because everytime she flashes what we all think is the U sign, she has her tongue out too!

Kaz,

You & I have been over Frodo's wife for a few years now....& I have come to the following conclusion...

Screw logic.......

SHE IS BAD MOJO FOR SPORTS

.....Last time I checked we had a decent baseball team too which cant seem to get past 1st round of postseason for over a decade as well...

BAD JU-JU man.....

Some people are just bad luck for certain things........doesn't mean there not good at others....

We can also go into the sell-out factor.....re-namimg Mark light with A-roid money.....The O.B......

AGAIN THATS VERY BAD MOJO TO PISS ALL OVER TRADITION....


Just want to switch gears for a minute. Did anybody see where Vince Young is broke. 26 mil. guaranteed over 6 years. How the hell can you blow that much money so soon. Oh well Vince, you are now one of the 47% crowd.

& you say we have hired 2 bad coaches......be careful its not a Tri-fecta....

As I said above jury is still out....

Very scary parallels right now to Shannon.....Has shown that he can recruit (& by that I mean particular players they want) but so far hasn't shown he can coach....

JACK

LMAO!!!!!

The Mighty Mormon Power Ranger gets crucified for telling the truth......

Then again every time he opens his mouth its like a flame thrower laying waste....

Goes to England tells them they don know what there doing with Olympics...goes to Spain & calls the queen ugly....

Dude you were almost dead even in the polls without having said ANYTHING......JUST BE QUIET!!!

Perfect analogy for FZB to understand me.....

If JEff Ireland is a good GM , then Obummer is a good president...

You wanna give him 4 more years??!@#$

Mojo I'll give you. If football mattered to UM I'd say fire her just to appease the public. The board of trustees will definitely talk about it when the NCAA sanctions come down.

She is who fans think she is. Except fans don't know how much her clout has done for the university or that the income (including apparel) from the football program is negligible. It all goes into the athletic department, which runs at a loss.

She's looking to retire after the MomentUM2 campaign, she brought in $100M of stimulus money for a private university, is halfway through her second BILLION dollar fundraising campaign, and the football team has the same attendance it's always had.

If the NCAA gives them an excuse, like proof that she knew about something illicit, maybe they fire her before the campaign is over. Makes no difference, quarterbacks determine NFL franchises, head coaches run college programs.

Al Golden needs to take control of his team and his defensive playcalling or UM is in for a long day against Georgia Tech.

Orange Bowl 4ever,

paul solai is a very, very decent player who overpowered the raiders' center all day on sunday. however long it took him, he has made himself into an effective force in the middle of the dolphin defensive front. i respect your opinion, but disagree about solai. he is one of the top 10, or maybe even top five players, on the dolphins to this observer.

Orange,

your showing your ignorance again, the jury is still out on Golden?..he's proven he can recruit like Shannon?..but can he coach?

too funny..

Obama and Ireland?..Ireland is a better GM than Obama president, Ireland deserves two more years and Obama doesn't deserve another 4..

IMAWriter,

Ireland didn't sign Dansby,or Fasano or Cam Wake, Parcells did.

HERE IS WHAT iRELAND DID, R Bush was a trade, a darn good one, he signed Burnett and cut C Crowder (another good move) he signed M Moore and he became the teams MVP (another good move)Colombo was a bad move, this year the team was handicapped by the cap situation created by Parcells bad free agent signings which is the reason we had 15 million in dead money.

since the team had no money to spend on free agency we couldn't go after big time free agents which is the reason we signed so many vet's to minimum contrats, agree on Naanee, he sucks and I get the feeling he won't be around too much longer.

what's funny to me is you guys only point out the bad moves but never say anything about the good moves and you guys are still confusing Parcells shit moves with the ones that Ireland has made, this is not that complicated, what ever Ireland has done the last two years is his responsibility and he is accountable for those moves, not before that.

so until further notice and Ireland gets fired or proves me wrong I'll keep defending the guy against all the lies and none sense you guys are putting out there..

Mr. Woodcock,

so lane kiffin goes public and rags on matt barkley to the media- showing again that he is a despicable person and a bad coach when he goes public with criticism of barkley after what was a horrible effort by the golden boy. matt barkley took the high road in response and accepted the criticism after throwing two horrible picks in a row. stanford had a great pass rush and a stout defense. the ole shadow said USC would have 2-3 conference losses, and oregon and UCLA look better than the trojans. USC could lose to either of the arizona schools unless they start running and getting some play from the defensive line. they have two quality DBs, two tremendous wideouts and barkley, which is good but the games are won by teams, not individuals, with the exception of reggie bush and mr. duke johnson-types, rare finds athletically.

FZB,

is revis gonna cover hartline, or will they leave him to cromartie and have revis cover bess (who has had good games vs, the jets)? if the jets can cover bess and hartline one-on-one, reggie bush will not have a great game despite his tremendous skills. it is very gratifying to see the guy is doing quite well and the naysayers about his ability to carry the ball 20 times or run up the gut have been silenced. the dolphins are second in rushing yardage, and let's see how ell they run against rex ryan's defense. i actrually though that tannehill was gonna go on a QB draw, but the rollout was a great call and he showed his zip in getting to the corner. good things ahead for #17 it appears. hoping to see more of the same from #s 22 and 17 and of course my still favorite #15. a win sunday looms big. pressure on sanchez and he comes apart, and he needs to be forced left to minimize his arm strength, which only shows when he is moving to his right.

here's another comparison: ireland WILL get this year and next; there's nothing you fools can say about it. and more importantly, obama is getting another 4 years, and there is REALLY nothing you'll be able to do about that either.
IMA? i'm a liberal, and i DO come with insults; you're all idiots voting against your economic interests! there. but i come with facts, too. namely, conservatives have never been on the correct side of history in ALL of our country's history. no one on here has offered anything to disprove that theory. all i get are cheap shots and insults that continue to prove how stupid most of you really are, but i digress..
FZB? it will be very interesting to hear all the football experts on here after we destroy the jets.. can't wait.

leave it to the republican morons to run a candidate who, just 5 years ago, was pro-choice, who implemented a health insurance mandate for his state, who supported tough gun laws and bans on assault weapons, who supported gays in the military, who supported the human responsibility for climate change, who refused to sign a tax pledge as governor, AND who thinks 47% of the population doesn't pay taxes.
boy, the democrats are really shaking in their boots over THIS genius. good luck, my conservative friends.. it's going to be a long, cold winter for you..

Shadow and David,

The Jets still have a strong defense, Revis will probably be on Hartline but if we can't run the ball on sunday we won't win the game.

Tannehill hasn't faced a blitzing defense like the Jets yet so its imperative we run the ball, I think our defense matches up well against their offense, it should be interesting.

Kaz, still haven't had chance to view your yottube from previous thread. I'll get back with you on it. GM Fire-Island was all class in his response to heckling fan. Fortuneatly, he didn't say something worse...
Posted by: dukester

I can't be objective though. You see I wanted GM Fire-Island to fire himself wayyy before his most recent self-embarrassment.

The only reason Jeff Irland still has a job is he has pictures of some body screwing a goat. There is a bus leaving town in 15 mins. He should be under it!!!

David,

In the immortal words of Hans Gruber.......

"I must have missed 60 minutes" ???

...Leave it to a guy 3 hours behind the times.....

Hate Ireland- And what the fan did was awesome. However, I now like Ireland a little more listening to his response to this guy calling him an @$$hole- we all would have said that- Don't apologize- you meant it and it was warranted- Perfect story all the way around.

FZB, Parcells wasn't the GM. No matter how you spin it, The GM drafts and chooses players, with whatever help he allows the HC to have.
Matt Moore beat only teams with losing records, and threw and fumbled the 2nd Pats game away last year.
He is a fumble machine.
Dansby has not played consistently to what he costs us.

Now lets talk about the weaknesses of kurt team that in 4 freakin' years ireland hasn't addressed...TE, safety, Another pass rusher, a LB who can defend the pass consistently, especially the TE...oh yeah, a #1 receiver. How about a lockdown corner? The guys we have aren't close, and Davis? GONE.
Add Donald Thomas...out again, Odrick, still unproven, COLUMBO, COLUMBO COLUMBO, and he allowed Tony Sparano in, being bullied by Parcells, then disgraces the franchise with Ross on the "fishing trip" to Harbaugh-land.
And the "is your mama a hooker comments" went over REAL big with possible FA's.

Hey, I've got lots more. bring it on, my friend.

Whoops, sorry, meant DANIEL Thomas.

Tired of doing this. Ireland's going nowhere, especially if Tannehill is what we all hope he is...myself included.
However, if he hadn't gotten us a QB in the draft, there would have been hell to pay.
As far as I'm concerned, win or lose, I'll watch my Fins here in TN (usually illegally), Ireland or not.

Just wish it was NOT. Charlie Casserly is everything ireland isn't.
What a waste on the NFL network.
Bring him here. Would be fun to see Bush confront the guy who drafted Mario Williams 1st, costing Bush several millions.
I bet Casserly would handle it a lot better than Ireland.

FZB, i think we can beat them, especially at home. our defense is no slouch either..

Greg, for your information, some of us, if not the majority, hates Obama.......Respect us!!!

“Since all you Obama lemmings have chosen to elect a man with a socialist heart to kill the American experiment, you may all go to hell and I will go to Texas.”

Real David, the economy??? You want four more years? If you get them this country will go to hell with people like you!!! Leeches!! Livinhg of MY money!!!

FZB,

felicidades on becoming an abuelo!!

100% correct on your appraisal of sunday's game- lots of reddogs (old school for blitzes) coming tannehill's way, and with no running game the jets will be all over the youngster. could be more rollouts and QB draws to stop the blitzes. hope the jets get creamed and help launch the fins into a decent season.

IMAWRIter,

No sense in trying to reason with you, I won't bash you for it since your kind of senile, I respect my elders lol

So you think Ireland was making the decisions since he was the GM, so what was Parcells doing to earn his 5 mil? assisting Ireland?..wow, I want that job.

Shadow, yes muchas gracias amigo, I am an abuelo again, beautiful baby girl.

david in real la- Obama is good for our economy? I disagree. The recession recovery was weakened by his policies.
from Jimbo of the other LA

Pat White was Parcell's pick
Columbo was obtained from Dallas by the insistance of Offensive line genius Tony Potato Head Sparano.

shadow-- anyway you slice it, the team can run the ball against anyone. When opposing D's are "keying" on the run the passing game opens up. Tannehill will have to face 2 better CB's this weekend.

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