Good riddance, Hanley Ramirez! Agree or no? Vote now (with poll); plus a new video from me, Ricky Williams' odd journey turns odder & more
NEW VIDEO! THIS IS NOT A FIRE SALE-* Visit YouTube/TheGregCote for my latest The View From Miami video, on why this week's two Marlins trades were smart (with an asterisk). All six videos I've done so far are posted.
[1) It is THURSDAY, JULY 26. Join us on Twitter @gregcote. 2) Happy for ex-Canes coach Randy Shannon catching on as linebackers coach at Texas Christian. 3) A belated R.I.P. to Sherman Hemsley, whose George character (left) in 'The Jeffersons' could strut a pimp-walk better than anybody not wearing a purple felt hat]
Juicy!: The Dodgers visit Miami for three games August 10-12 and the crowd reaction to Hanley Ramirez will be interesting. Mostly cheers? Mostly boos? Maybe the poll results below will offer a hint. Click on Good Riddance for my newest column, on the departure of Hanley. and on Train Wreck for my previous column, on the Marlins' nightmare season.
MARLINS TRADE HANLEY RAMIREZ (THAT'S GOOD), BUT DON'T GET MUCH FOR HIM (THAT'S BAD): Hanley Ramirez (right) became the Dodgers' problem just past 3 a.m. in the East yesterday when the news began to break that the Marlins had sent to Ramirez and reliever Randy Choate packing for Los Angeles. What's headed out doesn't bother me. Hanley has shown three years of diminishing returns and a continuing attitude issue. He was hitting .246. They tried to build a team around Ramirez but he wasn't up to the role. It was time to move on, as I say in this video on my YouTube channel, filmed early last evening prior to the trade. As for Choate leaving? He was a spot-role mid-relief guy with an expiring contract. No biggie. The problem with this trade is that, with about six teams reportedly interested in Ramirez, one would think the Marlins could have gotten more in return than what they did: 22-year-old rookie starting pitcher Nathan Eovaldi (1-6, 4.15 ERA) and 22-year-old minor-league pitcher Scott McGough, both righties. Eovaldi is pictured at left. As with any trade involving prospects, this deal will look much better if either incoming young pitcher turns out great, of course. For now, though, it sort of seems like the Marlins just gave Hanley Ramirez away. L.A. agreed to assume his remaining contract, so it's a salary-dump for Miami. But does it make the team better? L.A. was the only interested team that would pick up Hanley's entire remaining salary, so the presumption is Miami might have gotten more in return from another team but opted for the financial relief instead. Piggybacked onto the earlier trade of pitcher Anibal Sanchez and second baseman Omar Infante to Detroit for three young prospects, the Marlins definitely are retooling. Fire sale? Not yet, but it could begin to feel like that if, say, Josh Johnson is the next to go. Certain players ike Giancarlo Stanton and Jose Reyes should be off-limits and the club should make that clear to clam fans. Meantime, weigh in on the departure of Hanley Ramirez. Poll open. Votes welcome.
Shame on Showtime: How ridiculously lame and lazy of Showtime's The Franchise to not re-tool last night's episode to center around the Hanley Ramirez trade. They had time. The show could have been fresh and right-now topical; instead, the episode was full of fluff 'n filler: Ozzie Guillen's family, Edwards Mujica's family ... yawn! The only memorable quote for me was owner Jeffrey Loria lamenting of his team, "I don't think these guys have any sense of urgency."
RICKY WILLIAMS KEEPS PUTTING THE 'ODD' IN ODYSSEY: The life story of Ricky Williams gets stranger just when you thought that impossible. The latest: The retired Dolphin and his Ricky Williams Foundation are now heavily involved (spiritually and also financially) with a controversial organization -- many would say cult -- called Access Consciousness. Williams is a "facilitator" for the group and teaches classes for it. Its founder, Gary Douglas, is on record saying he believes he can heal wounds with his bare hands and read minds among other claims. The Austin (Tex.) Chronicle just did an interesting piece on all this. Click on Ricky's New Chapter for that story, which includes audio of an extensive interview with Williams and Douglas. Williams' ongoing search for enlightenment is admirable on some level, and I won't judge the motives or legitimacy of Douglas beyond suggesting they seem questionable. I wish Ricky and his bank account well on this venture, and hope he has trusted advisers in his life who are doing their job.
Poll result: Penn State punishment about right: We asked in the prior blogpost how you felt about Penn State's punishment over the Jerry Sandusky scandal (you can still vote), and 52.1 percent said it was about right. Another 26.8% called it too harsh and 21.1% too lenient.
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Look, I'm glad Hanloaf is gone. Needed to be done. I don't even care about the inevitability that Hanloaf will now turn it on again and probably win 2 or 3 MVPs with the Dodgers. (And, of course, we can count on him torching the Marlins for the rest of his career.) He's a loafer, a terrible human being, a cancerous polyp on the anus of humanity. But, I'm sorry, I don't care how low his stock is. This Nathan Loser guy, his ERA is higher than the price of supreme unleaded gas where I live. And considering his ERA is infinitely better than this Jacob Turner bum from Detroit... Great. And don't give me this "they're young" argument. Don't give me "sample size". Plenty of young pitchers don't struggle anywhere close to this.
As for Josh Johnson, I don't trust him to stay healthy, either. I won't sob too much when he's traded to Texas. I'll be stunned if he makes it to the end of 2013 without having another serious injury. He's had how many injuries already? Get someone to take his contract while you can. But what will they get in return? As John McGinley said in "Point Break".... SQUAT!!!
This is not only a fire sale, but it is flat-out intentional sabotage. This is slash-and-burn to the nth degree. Chainsaw Al Dunlap would be proud.
The Art Dealer and the Latent Lawyer haven't only given up on this season. They've given up, period. This season, next season, the season after that, forever.
We tore down the Orange Bowl... for this? (Not that the Hurrican'ts are any better. In fact, they're probably worse.)
Posted this on the Marlins blog but applies here....
I am now going to the game this afternoon BECAUSE they traded Hanley. I just called into work "sick" because I'm so excited. He was a mediocre player who thought he was good. NEVER did anything in or for the community besides supply local drinking establishments with excellent customer support. Good riddance and thank you Marlins management! I will be there to support the team from now on.
I agree with the previous post in that Hanley seemed to be more headache than help. No big loss. And I also agree that you're likely to see his career completely resurrected under Don Mattingly's tutelage. And THAT, to me, is the biggest problem here in Florida. How many players do we have who are underperforming? Reyes, Ramirez, JJ, Bell, Cogs, Gaby, Buck . . . who am I forgetting? Who are the ones who perform reasonably well? People who come from other organizations, like Ruggiano and Lee.
It sure looks to me like we have NO coaching, at the major league or minor league levels, because we seem incapable of doing anything but ruining players. And then they go to other places, where they are mentored and taught, and players like Mike Lowell and Cameron Maybin and Miguel Cabrera and Ryan Dempster become stars! For the life of me, I cannot understand why we spent all this money for players, but won't spend SQUAT to help them improve.
Here we are, not even out of JULY, and it's already "Wait until next year" . . . so we wait for the next round of "can't miss" prospects to go bust. We are becomig the Oakland Raiders of baseball: a never-ending carousel of "new starts" and continued failure. I'm tired of it. There are better ways to spend my time and money than watching a bunch of underachievers make lo vista signs at each other and grin while they lose.
I'm very happy that the $100 that I paid Cheo El Curandero to put a hex on the Marlins after that ass wipe Ozzie opened his trap about Fidel is working beautifully. In my master plan the Marlins are back to drawing 1,200 a game in two years and they dissolve the team and enlarge the stadium for the Hurricanes. The spirit of the Orange Bowl will not die. Screw the Marlins.
Big Baby, I enjoy playing baseball, and even going to a night game at Anaheim, much better talent in the stands than on the field, but the game is an interminable bore to watch, especially on TV. Not a game for the 21st century, way too slow for my pace. I like to play chess but I wouldn't pay half a penny to watch it on TV.
josh johnson cant pitch more than six innings-if he does it becomes a disaster. hanley ramirez hits lights out in dodger stadium, so for him fine; but the foaming at the mouth over this guy being the best SS in baseball that was occuring a couple of years ago also "made me puke". couldn't pick up a grounder hit right at him, and only generosity by the officila scorer kepr him from the 40+ errors he contributed every year. whatever the bats said, ramirez and uggla was the worst DP combination in baseball. and again, the owners bilked the city out of millions of dollars for a stadium that will house a lousy team and has hosed the taxpayers.
Back when we were still living in a civilized society this incident with the Greek Olympic team could have been easily resolved by having that cute blond blow the Greek sports minister and make a cute apology on TV.
Hanley's a great player, Ozzie's a great manager. The Marlins and especially David Samson are criminal f*ck faced liars who sell off players as soon as the fans come to know and like them.
They'll never get consistent attendance with that business model, never pay back a penny to the city for that stadium, which is appropriately becoming rust stained and depressing halfway through the first season.
Like I said previously political correctness has gone wild. Here's another example. How can Obama understand the Anglo Saxon connection when he's a Muslim from Kenya?
Kaz, the UM trustees are going to drop your aunt and bring in that buxom honey blond from Alabama who hired Saban. She will make the correct decision and move the team to where something called the Marlins currently try to play.
"I'm very happy that the $100 that I paid Cheo El Curandero to put a hex on the Marlins after that ass wipe Ozzie opened his trap about Fidel is working beautifully. In my master plan the Marlins are back to drawing 1,200 a game in two years and they dissolve the team and enlarge the stadium for the Hurricanes. The spirit of the Orange Bowl will not die. Screw the Marlins." LMAO! I thought I was the only one who tried to hex them! LOL Good to see other fellow Cubans were doing their part. I just hexed them so the owners are forced to sell the team to a real Baseball owner who will bring respect back to the sport in FLA. And who will change the god awful colors, and logos these homos in the front office gave the team.
Woodcock I stayed at The Fairmont a few years back when I visited my sister who lives there quite the place they have a famous tiki room that maybe you have been to.
The Fairmont is about five blocks up the hill. The Fairmont is a beautiful hotel. I wouldn't like living in SF year round but I enjoy vacationing there for a few days. Great city.
Cody was the MVP in the world series? I know we got him from the Marlins or someone and he played pretty good for us down the stretch. Baby, at my age I can't remember what I had for breakfast.
Hanley Traded is no big deal, the guy was just stealing money.
Oye Woodcock and Miami jackal, the 'santeria' they do here in Little Havana is the minor leagues compared to the shit that's going on in Cuba, we need to take up a collection and "reclamar" one of those 'santeros' to come for a 'visita'..
the guy who made the 1st post doesnt know what hes talking about. the prospects we got in return, especially in the detroit trade, are good. since LA was the only team that would pick up hanleys contract in its entirety, they gave us lesser prospects in return, nut nathan isnt bad, and will develope. and hanley will sure as hell never win a mvp, let alone multiple ones, in LA. to conclude, the guy who wrote the 1st post is a fool
I went to lots of games at the Old Garden Bruins mostly couple of Celtics games you were not missing that much place was old not that nice but it would get loud in there like you would not believe.
Addendum to 7/25/12 1:03PM post. Oh yeah NFL needs significanly more level playing field between offense and defense. May mean lower scoring games but intensity & substance will be ratcheted up!
I hope Chad catches the game winning TD vs. NE in both games this year and does a celebration dance and then spikes the ball off of one those silly patriot guys with the muskets.
Chad has as much of a chance of scoring a winning td against any team this year as I do, never mind against the Pats. the circus has arrived in miami!!! iTS NOT ABOUT tANNAHILL AND THE PROGRESS OF THE DOLPHINS, ITS 24-7 cHAD.
The Marlins will always be the Florida Marlins ,and they will always be known for their black teal! And Loria if you are going to be cheap again, I hope you sell the team soon. Cause we are getting tired of these firesales.
dodgers plan on playing hanley at short.. mixed feelings about the trade, although my dodger friends say eovaldi can be a really special player..
loria is satan..
canes and marlins both dissipating into oblivion. Just no hope for either. Soon they will be drawing 5k again. At least they serve good churros in those front lawns.
david, I don't have any mixed feeling about Hanley, the guy was not trying for the marlins.
he could easily turned around in LA and make the Marlins look like chumps but he had to go.
Naples jack, you scared buddy?..it seems that way to me, could it be the great beli-cheat may have made a mistake?...8-5 could make the team and if that happens there is no reason why he won't score on you guys, you guys suck on defense.
First and Foremost RIP Sherman Hemsley. Movin on Up to a deluxe apartment in the Sky.
Hanley wasn't producing. Never understood the Hate on him as a Person. I'm disappointed in him, but that doesn't give me or someone else reason to hate. Has he been Arrested? Has he ever insulted a Fan? No, For his talent and ability he should be Consistently better that's about it. After they dropped him from leadoff a few seasons back the #'s just started to go down every year.
FIRE THE HITTING COACH, Hire Barry Bonds(he wants to coach)
Oh the horror, they started the Olympics coverage with soccer....at least it's women's soccer although some of the players look more butch than Butch Cassidy. Unless they come out in tangas for the next match this whole Olympics thing is starting to look like one major snooze fest.
So it's a slow news day. Olympics starting out tomorrow and no doubt we'll have another theme on berets. Personally, I like track and field, gymnastics (cause I was one), swimming, and just about everything else but for those sports which we see all the time -- basketball, baseball, volleyball, soccer, etc. What!? do we really need to know which country...ehr...athletes are the best!?
Those sports really don't need to be represented in an age when their yearly competition pretty much defines it.
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Moving to another topic, most of the regulars here have pointed to various personal musical artists and specific songs who they felt were great. FZB, Woody nominating Floyd, what's-his-mame nominating Jimi, shadow with any number of great artist pre-69, but I put it to you all...
What is the best song/artist released during the last five to ten years? Again, not back in the day Ozzie Osbourne, but something more recent.
Jay-Z? Wow, you're really losing it OC. El Rap ese es tremenda mierda. It's bad enough that they speak ebonics but at least back in the day they were actually singing and playing music. I don't know WTF rap is but it ain't music.
Now that I think about it I'm not surprised that you would think this Jay Z shit is any good after all you did tell me that I had to drop everything and go see Reservoir Dogs.
Jay Z ?..I respect the guy, he didn't let his talent and his money go to waste plus he married that fine ass..but his musica?...eso es mierda, sorry buddy.
Going to have a great lunch today, glad Hanley is a Dodger, that Vernon is now signed and a Dolphin, totally support Coach Golden, urging all to cancel Canesport and will be having lunch at .......Chick Fil A today!
Will have them cater my first Hurricane tailgate this year too!
The Marlins organization has just reached the same level of stupidity as the Dolphins. Might as well go back to the old name, Florida Marlins and re-name the Dolphins to the Florida Dolphins. Two once respectable franchises now the least respected. Sad.
Oye, I told you not to move to Texas. All they have there are steers and queers and you don't have no horns on your head. Jay Z, come on bro, that guy isn't even the best artist in his own house! I knew that you were trending left with the move to Texas. The next thing you'll be wearing "guapitas" one size too small like that rump ranger Rick Perry. "Here's mine, great video to boot." No jodas, brother!
I understand the Marlins bashing but in every situation, you have to look at the big picture and let it play out.
it happened with Ireland/Dolphins when he signed D Garrard, everybody and their mother was calling the guy a dummy, looking back it was a good sound move since they where planning on drafting a QB in the draft, now that position is one of strenght for the Dolphins.
The Marlins just traded Hanley, so what, he was not producing and we got rid of his 14 mil salary, if you notice we are getting pitching back, you win with pitching and defense.
also, they will have money available in next year's free agency to go after hitter's ( Hamilton maybe ? )
my point is you have to let it play out, I'm sure there is a plan in place, they are not stupid , heck the took the city of miami to the crapper with the deal they made for the park.
I won't talk about the Marlins again, its football time now.
my musical era? up until little feat, around the mid 70s when lowell george died. since then, on fabiola single- "deliriose" from about 83. at this point the only group i could consider listening to or even going to see would be the derek trucks band. that boy can play the axe, has great singers and picks solid material to perform. and count me in on "rap aint music"- the vocals are spoken not sung, and the "music" has no melody or harmony-only a "rythm section" of bass and drums. "the last poets" of the late gil-scott heron were doing this in the early 70s.
Ok, lets let a self described musical expert, Tubesteak Dave, decide once and for all who is the best music act. All I have to say about rappers is that even though Tubesteak and the Beatles can't read music at least they can read and write which is more than what these rappers can do.
Rap makes me want to rap the mutherf***ers blasting that s*** in the car next to me. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM! Problem is they're all probably packin' so I mind my business...
Sadly when I mention Hendrix to most blacks they look at me like I have two heads or only seem to remember he took drugs & died as result of drugs. S*** I tell them don't you realize the time period in which he was playing. Drugs were like cigarettes and you even had a Harvard used car salesman singing it praises as the ultimate "good" drug on earth. Come on...
someone pissed in Naples Jack's prune juice, calm down please.
duke, if they're packing a knife, you need a gun, if they are packing a pistol, you need an 88 on top of your Yugo.
woodcock, rappers read from a teleprompter supplied by the federal government.
bobby bowden was on the paterno bandwaggon until someone pointed out bobby's all time wins = #1 with pa joe's record erased. some think grambling's robinson deserves the all time record but... you gotta coach at a real school first.
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Look, I'm glad Hanloaf is gone. Needed to be done. I don't even care about the inevitability that Hanloaf will now turn it on again and probably win 2 or 3 MVPs with the Dodgers. (And, of course, we can count on him torching the Marlins for the rest of his career.) He's a loafer, a terrible human being, a cancerous polyp on the anus of humanity. But, I'm sorry, I don't care how low his stock is. This Nathan Loser guy, his ERA is higher than the price of supreme unleaded gas where I live. And considering his ERA is infinitely better than this Jacob Turner bum from Detroit... Great. And don't give me this "they're young" argument. Don't give me "sample size". Plenty of young pitchers don't struggle anywhere close to this.
As for Josh Johnson, I don't trust him to stay healthy, either. I won't sob too much when he's traded to Texas. I'll be stunned if he makes it to the end of 2013 without having another serious injury. He's had how many injuries already? Get someone to take his contract while you can. But what will they get in return? As John McGinley said in "Point Break".... SQUAT!!!
This is not only a fire sale, but it is flat-out intentional sabotage. This is slash-and-burn to the nth degree. Chainsaw Al Dunlap would be proud.
The Art Dealer and the Latent Lawyer haven't only given up on this season. They've given up, period. This season, next season, the season after that, forever.
We tore down the Orange Bowl... for this? (Not that the Hurrican'ts are any better. In fact, they're probably worse.)
Posted by: To Hell With David Samson | July 25, 2012 at 09:56 AM
If they end up trading Johnson they are likely in full rebuild mode.
If you do can you trade him to The Red Sox?
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 09:57 AM
I still call them The Florida Marlins I can never remember to say Miami.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Baseball, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Posted this on the Marlins blog but applies here....
I am now going to the game this afternoon BECAUSE they traded Hanley. I just called into work "sick" because I'm so excited. He was a mediocre player who thought he was good. NEVER did anything in or for the community besides supply local drinking establishments with excellent customer support. Good riddance and thank you Marlins management! I will be there to support the team from now on.
Posted by: The Local Seth | July 25, 2012 at 10:29 AM
What is fraud? If you give us money for a stadium we will what? We will take even more of your money wasn't the sales pitch I remember.
Sad and people who give money and go to the games are the real suckers
Posted by: Scuba | July 25, 2012 at 10:35 AM
I agree with the previous post in that Hanley seemed to be more headache than help. No big loss. And I also agree that you're likely to see his career completely resurrected under Don Mattingly's tutelage. And THAT, to me, is the biggest problem here in Florida. How many players do we have who are underperforming? Reyes, Ramirez, JJ, Bell, Cogs, Gaby, Buck . . . who am I forgetting? Who are the ones who perform reasonably well? People who come from other organizations, like Ruggiano and Lee.
It sure looks to me like we have NO coaching, at the major league or minor league levels, because we seem incapable of doing anything but ruining players. And then they go to other places, where they are mentored and taught, and players like Mike Lowell and Cameron Maybin and Miguel Cabrera and Ryan Dempster become stars! For the life of me, I cannot understand why we spent all this money for players, but won't spend SQUAT to help them improve.
Here we are, not even out of JULY, and it's already "Wait until next year" . . . so we wait for the next round of "can't miss" prospects to go bust. We are becomig the Oakland Raiders of baseball: a never-ending carousel of "new starts" and continued failure. I'm tired of it. There are better ways to spend my time and money than watching a bunch of underachievers make lo vista signs at each other and grin while they lose.
Posted by: DanthefadingMarlingfan | July 25, 2012 at 10:37 AM
And it'd not that they traded him...it's that they got nothing at all in return and they could have got more. It was all about money.
Posted by: Scuba | July 25, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Hamley's career averages are outstanding this guy was a very good player from around 2006-09'.
His career OPS is .873 not a stat geek but that's good.
Can he ever play like he used to is the question.
Interesting because we traded him and A. Sanchez for Beckett and the same thing has happened to him.
Former All Star now a pile of goo the last few years go figure.
Woodcock baseball is a great sport hitting a round ball with a round bat is not easy you should watch sometime.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 10:44 AM
I'm very happy that the $100 that I paid Cheo El Curandero to put a hex on the Marlins after that ass wipe Ozzie opened his trap about Fidel is working beautifully. In my master plan the Marlins are back to drawing 1,200 a game in two years and they dissolve the team and enlarge the stadium for the Hurricanes. The spirit of the Orange Bowl will not die. Screw the Marlins.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 11:08 AM
You go sluggo, cup the balls while you work hold the bat!
Posted by: Richard Simmons | July 25, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Here's another case of political correctness gone nuts. All that work down the tube because of a freaking joke. Ridiculous.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/olympics-fourth-place-medal/greek-athlete-expeled-olympics-racist-tweet-140602319--oly.html
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Big Baby, I enjoy playing baseball, and even going to a night game at Anaheim, much better talent in the stands than on the field, but the game is an interminable bore to watch, especially on TV. Not a game for the 21st century, way too slow for my pace. I like to play chess but I wouldn't pay half a penny to watch it on TV.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Not a Dodger or Angel fan Woodcock?
I cannot understand the concept of liking a college football team more than a pro baseball team.
Totally foreign to me.
That's why I live in the Boston area I guess people are very passionate about baseball here.
Hey we have 3 Div 1 college football teams here in New England now though woo hoo progress!
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 11:20 AM
I used to follow baseball much more then now. Like Woodcock, rather watch my chubby neighbor in her pool then 9 innings of baseball.
Posted by: Jimbo | July 25, 2012 at 11:27 AM
Big Baby,
josh johnson cant pitch more than six innings-if he does it becomes a disaster. hanley ramirez hits lights out in dodger stadium, so for him fine; but the foaming at the mouth over this guy being the best SS in baseball that was occuring a couple of years ago also "made me puke". couldn't pick up a grounder hit right at him, and only generosity by the officila scorer kepr him from the 40+ errors he contributed every year. whatever the bats said, ramirez and uggla was the worst DP combination in baseball. and again, the owners bilked the city out of millions of dollars for a stadium that will house a lousy team and has hosed the taxpayers.
Posted by: the shadow knows | July 25, 2012 at 11:36 AM
New stadium, same Marlins. The guy who needs to be gone from this team is the Manager. Ozzie is an idiot and an embarrassment.
Posted by: John Steel | July 25, 2012 at 11:37 AM
You said it John Ozzie used to be a good manager back in the day but he does not seem to be any longer.
He was a bad choice for that team.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 11:39 AM
Back when we were still living in a civilized society this incident with the Greek Olympic team could have been easily resolved by having that cute blond blow the Greek sports minister and make a cute apology on TV.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 11:41 AM
I'm a Giants fan and like the Dodgers as much as I like SC.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 11:44 AM
That's ok shadow we will take our chances right now we barely have one pitcher who can go five innings.
For about 5 years Hanley was probably the best offensive shortstop in the league.
He seems to have lost interest in the game maybe he needs a change in scenery.
Not sure he can play short effectively anymore though where is LA planning on playing him?
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 11:49 AM
Memo to Giants fan letting Cody Ross walk was a mistake thanks though good player I hope we resign him.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Hanley's a great player, Ozzie's a great manager. The Marlins and especially David Samson are criminal f*ck faced liars who sell off players as soon as the fans come to know and like them.
They'll never get consistent attendance with that business model, never pay back a penny to the city for that stadium, which is appropriately becoming rust stained and depressing halfway through the first season.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Like I said previously political correctness has gone wild. Here's another example. How can Obama understand the Anglo Saxon connection when he's a Muslim from Kenya?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57479578-503544/romney-camp-denies-anglo-saxon-heritage-comment/
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 11:56 AM
If Ozzie was a great manager he would still be in Chicago.
They saw the writing on the wall and dumped him now they are in the playoff hunt with Robin Ventura.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Kaz, the UM trustees are going to drop your aunt and bring in that buxom honey blond from Alabama who hired Saban. She will make the correct decision and move the team to where something called the Marlins currently try to play.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Cody who? Dude, all I know is they have great food at Pac Bell Stadium and I get a free room at the Kensington Park Hotel when I'm in San Francisco.
http://www.kensingtonparkhotel.com/rooms/?gclid=CNKvp8aatbECFQtThwodRTQA3Q
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 12:07 PM
"I'm very happy that the $100 that I paid Cheo El Curandero to put a hex on the Marlins after that ass wipe Ozzie opened his trap about Fidel is working beautifully. In my master plan the Marlins are back to drawing 1,200 a game in two years and they dissolve the team and enlarge the stadium for the Hurricanes. The spirit of the Orange Bowl will not die. Screw the Marlins." LMAO! I thought I was the only one who tried to hex them! LOL Good to see other fellow Cubans were doing their part. I just hexed them so the owners are forced to sell the team to a real Baseball owner who will bring respect back to the sport in FLA. And who will change the god awful colors, and logos these homos in the front office gave the team.
Posted by: MIAMI JackaL | July 25, 2012 at 12:08 PM
I like how the Marlins are fleecing their clueless fans! Suckahs!
Posted by: Bill Buckner | July 25, 2012 at 12:26 PM
Woodcock I stayed at The Fairmont a few years back when I visited my sister who lives there quite the place they have a famous tiki room that maybe you have been to.
Kensington looks nice too.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 12:30 PM
The Fairmont is about five blocks up the hill. The Fairmont is a beautiful hotel. I wouldn't like living in SF year round but I enjoy vacationing there for a few days. Great city.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 12:34 PM
Jackal, El tipo ese Lorie es tremendo come mierda.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Cody Ross was your World Series MVP a few years ago thought that you might have heard of him.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Cody was the MVP in the world series? I know we got him from the Marlins or someone and he played pretty good for us down the stretch. Baby, at my age I can't remember what I had for breakfast.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Hey I'm as normal as anyone in here Your Honor. Just not reponsible for my actions like my court appointed attorney says...
http://blogs.herald.com/.a/6a00d83451587d69e2017616a63697970c-pi
Posted by: dukey | July 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Baseball should be 3 maybe 5 innings tops.
Posted by: dukey | July 25, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Basketball should have two quarters. Golf 9 holes.
Posted by: dukey | July 25, 2012 at 01:01 PM
Football is ok as is, with exception of Dolphins perpetually doggy paddling seasons.
Posted by: dukey | July 25, 2012 at 01:03 PM
Here are Hanley's road numbers this year folks.
.187/ .251/ .363
Hay Caramba
Marlins fans whining not pretty that team ususlly gets good prospects and develops them well be glad you have a good GM and scouts over there.
Money doesn't always buy a winner I should know I am a Boston fan.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Tennis? Only female cuties wearing tennis shoes or stillettos and very sheer panties no bra. Tomorrow female gymnastics and swimming...
Posted by: dukey | July 25, 2012 at 01:26 PM
Hanley Traded is no big deal, the guy was just stealing money.
Oye Woodcock and Miami jackal, the 'santeria' they do here in Little Havana is the minor leagues compared to the shit that's going on in Cuba, we need to take up a collection and "reclamar" one of those 'santeros' to come for a 'visita'..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSjEccnOvQQ&feature=related
I saw that article on that greek girl that got dismissed from the olympic team, I don't think is such a big deal, people are too sensitive now a days.
what's up Duke !
Baby, On my bucket list I want to see a game at fenway park and wrigley field, I also want see a game at Green Bay..
would have love to see a game at the old Boston Garden and the old Bulls stadium.
Yankees ?..NO, I hate them too much.
Posted by: FZB | July 25, 2012 at 01:47 PM
Wrigley on my Bucket List as well FZB that's a must do.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 01:58 PM
the guy who made the 1st post doesnt know what hes talking about. the prospects we got in return, especially in the detroit trade, are good. since LA was the only team that would pick up hanleys contract in its entirety, they gave us lesser prospects in return, nut nathan isnt bad, and will develope. and hanley will sure as hell never win a mvp, let alone multiple ones, in LA. to conclude, the guy who wrote the 1st post is a fool
Posted by: oscar | July 25, 2012 at 02:00 PM
I went to lots of games at the Old Garden Bruins mostly couple of Celtics games you were not missing that much place was old not that nice but it would get loud in there like you would not believe.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 02:01 PM
Addendum to 7/25/12 1:03PM post. Oh yeah NFL needs significanly more level playing field between offense and defense. May mean lower scoring games but intensity & substance will be ratcheted up!
Posted by: dukey | July 25, 2012 at 02:13 PM
That's not happening anytime soon duke.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 02:30 PM
who wants to see a 6-3 game ?
I DO !!!!, I love defensive games, ahh the good old days.
Posted by: FZB | July 25, 2012 at 02:42 PM
the Dolphins just signed Olivier Vernon and my boy Tannehill is close to signing.
Posted by: FZB | July 25, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Remember when The Jeffersons lived next to Archie Bunker?
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 03:17 PM
Always loved All in the family, the Jefferson's weren't bad either.
there was also a cop show that I always watched, Kojak
with Telly Savalas, great show..Who loves ya baby !
Posted by: FZB | July 25, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Just read where 8-5 blamed the Pats for his awful year in Foxboro. What a dope. On second thought, what a fu##ing dope. Good luck with this idiot.
Posted by: Naples Jack | July 25, 2012 at 03:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v19PpD5uqL0&feature=related
awesome
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 03:41 PM
I hope Chad catches the game winning TD vs. NE in both games this year and does a celebration dance and then spikes the ball off of one those silly patriot guys with the muskets.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Naples, you seem to be full of piss and vinegar today, you OK ?
I second that Baby, if the Dolphins beat the Patsies and 8-5 scores the winning td I think Naple's Jack will go insane.
dyno-myte !
Posted by: FZB | July 25, 2012 at 04:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbq5JR4rK9U&feature=related
Posted by: Big Baby | July 25, 2012 at 04:12 PM
I loved original Lionel Jefferson messing with Archie's limited, racially fixated 6th grade education.
Posted by: duke | July 25, 2012 at 04:51 PM
Chad has as much of a chance of scoring a winning td against any team this year as I do, never mind against the Pats. the circus has arrived in miami!!! iTS NOT ABOUT tANNAHILL AND THE PROGRESS OF THE DOLPHINS, ITS 24-7 cHAD.
Posted by: Naples Jack | July 25, 2012 at 05:24 PM
The Marlins will always be the Florida Marlins ,and they will always be known for their black teal! And Loria if you are going to be cheap again, I hope you sell the team soon. Cause we are getting tired of these firesales.
Posted by: ginrai | July 25, 2012 at 05:47 PM
dodgers plan on playing hanley at short.. mixed feelings about the trade, although my dodger friends say eovaldi can be a really special player..
loria is satan..
Posted by: (the real) david in los angeles | July 25, 2012 at 06:14 PM
Wassup Dave!
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 07:01 PM
canes and marlins both dissipating into oblivion. Just no hope for either. Soon they will be drawing 5k again. At least they serve good churros in those front lawns.
Posted by: rawpimple | July 25, 2012 at 07:19 PM
I hope the next time you park on one of those lawns your Yugo will be on blocks when you get back.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 07:25 PM
david, I don't have any mixed feeling about Hanley, the guy was not trying for the marlins.
he could easily turned around in LA and make the Marlins look like chumps but he had to go.
Naples jack, you scared buddy?..it seems that way to me, could it be the great beli-cheat may have made a mistake?...8-5 could make the team and if that happens there is no reason why he won't score on you guys, you guys suck on defense.
here is the best thing, Football is back !!!!!!
Posted by: FZB | July 25, 2012 at 07:46 PM
First and Foremost RIP Sherman Hemsley. Movin on Up to a deluxe apartment in the Sky.
Hanley wasn't producing. Never understood the Hate on him as a Person. I'm disappointed in him, but that doesn't give me or someone else reason to hate. Has he been Arrested? Has he ever insulted a Fan? No, For his talent and ability he should be Consistently better that's about it. After they dropped him from leadoff a few seasons back the #'s just started to go down every year.
FIRE THE HITTING COACH, Hire Barry Bonds(he wants to coach)
Posted by: Dashi | July 25, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Oh the horror, they started the Olympics coverage with soccer....at least it's women's soccer although some of the players look more butch than Butch Cassidy. Unless they come out in tangas for the next match this whole Olympics thing is starting to look like one major snooze fest.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 25, 2012 at 07:57 PM
Okay crew,
So it's a slow news day. Olympics starting out tomorrow and no doubt we'll have another theme on berets. Personally, I like track and field, gymnastics (cause I was one), swimming, and just about everything else but for those sports which we see all the time -- basketball, baseball, volleyball, soccer, etc. What!? do we really need to know which country...ehr...athletes are the best!?
Those sports really don't need to be represented in an age when their yearly competition pretty much defines it.
-----
Moving to another topic, most of the regulars here have pointed to various personal musical artists and specific songs who they felt were great. FZB, Woody nominating Floyd, what's-his-mame nominating Jimi, shadow with any number of great artist pre-69, but I put it to you all...
What is the best song/artist released during the last five to ten years? Again, not back in the day Ozzie Osbourne, but something more recent.
Here's mine. Great video to boot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TahH7B_aUZc
Posted by: OC Dolphin | July 26, 2012 at 12:32 AM
A close second:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjsXo9l6I8
Posted by: OC Dolphin | July 26, 2012 at 12:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50Sq4n4kt2k
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 26, 2012 at 01:33 AM
Jay-Z? Wow, you're really losing it OC. El Rap ese es tremenda mierda. It's bad enough that they speak ebonics but at least back in the day they were actually singing and playing music. I don't know WTF rap is but it ain't music.
Now that I think about it I'm not surprised that you would think this Jay Z shit is any good after all you did tell me that I had to drop everything and go see Reservoir Dogs.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 26, 2012 at 03:01 AM
OC,
while my love for 60's / 70's music is numero uno there's no question we have some very good deserving bands / songs more recent.
here's my first.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1RzSm2z2Yg
Jay Z ?..I respect the guy, he didn't let his talent and his money go to waste plus he married that fine ass..but his musica?...eso es mierda, sorry buddy.
Posted by: FZB | July 26, 2012 at 06:54 AM
the Pepper's are all right too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtBbinpK5XI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZmM4YeSu8g
Posted by: FZB | July 26, 2012 at 07:00 AM
and you can't forget the blues..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ZeDn-hHGE
Posted by: FZB | July 26, 2012 at 07:03 AM
and then, God shuffled his feet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIZd2T1D-YE
Posted by: FZB | July 26, 2012 at 08:00 AM
Going to have a great lunch today, glad Hanley is a Dodger, that Vernon is now signed and a Dolphin, totally support Coach Golden, urging all to cancel Canesport and will be having lunch at .......Chick Fil A today!
Will have them cater my first Hurricane tailgate this year too!
Posted by: AnonymousCane | July 26, 2012 at 09:23 AM
The Marlins organization has just reached the same level of stupidity as the Dolphins. Might as well go back to the old name, Florida Marlins and re-name the Dolphins to the Florida Dolphins. Two once respectable franchises now the least respected. Sad.
Posted by: CANETILLIDIE....DH | July 26, 2012 at 09:27 AM
Nah, it's not so much about J-Z, it's about a cool song and a great voice in Alicia Keys.
Posted by: OC Dolphin | July 26, 2012 at 09:43 AM
Jz's a ballah listen to the Black Album still holds up pretty well 10 years later.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 26, 2012 at 09:56 AM
Oye, I told you not to move to Texas. All they have there are steers and queers and you don't have no horns on your head. Jay Z, come on bro, that guy isn't even the best artist in his own house! I knew that you were trending left with the move to Texas. The next thing you'll be wearing "guapitas" one size too small like that rump ranger Rick Perry. "Here's mine, great video to boot." No jodas, brother!
Let me show you a much better one dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWCwc1_sYMY
La mulata esta esta encendida!
After that post, which is your worst of all time on the blog, your new Blog Name is OCito el Mariconsito.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 26, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Woodcock - hyping 'Beyonce' and calling OC a queer.
OK then...
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 26, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Woodcock rap ain't music?
You are old.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 26, 2012 at 10:15 AM
Kazaam I seem to recall you ripping The Beastie Boys recently, a low point for you also.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 26, 2012 at 10:16 AM
I understand the Marlins bashing but in every situation, you have to look at the big picture and let it play out.
it happened with Ireland/Dolphins when he signed D Garrard, everybody and their mother was calling the guy a dummy, looking back it was a good sound move since they where planning on drafting a QB in the draft, now that position is one of strenght for the Dolphins.
The Marlins just traded Hanley, so what, he was not producing and we got rid of his 14 mil salary, if you notice we are getting pitching back, you win with pitching and defense.
also, they will have money available in next year's free agency to go after hitter's ( Hamilton maybe ? )
my point is you have to let it play out, I'm sure there is a plan in place, they are not stupid , heck the took the city of miami to the crapper with the deal they made for the park.
I won't talk about the Marlins again, its football time now.
Posted by: FZB | July 26, 2012 at 10:17 AM
You're all old. And lame. Like the Beastie Boys.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 26, 2012 at 10:19 AM
POSITION OF STRENGTH???????
You've lost your mind FZB.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 26, 2012 at 10:20 AM
FZB you are right The Marlins are a well run organization for the most part.
Good scouts, good GM.
It took guts to make the moves they did clearly building for the future thereby admitting offseason free agent mistakes.
They dumped 37 mil over 2 years in getting rid of Hanley might look smart by doing so.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 26, 2012 at 10:24 AM
It is a position of strength.
They have 2 qb's who can win games on the roster right now.
Both good moves by Ireland.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 26, 2012 at 10:29 AM
OC Dolphin,
my musical era? up until little feat, around the mid 70s when lowell george died. since then, on fabiola single- "deliriose" from about 83. at this point the only group i could consider listening to or even going to see would be the derek trucks band. that boy can play the axe, has great singers and picks solid material to perform. and count me in on "rap aint music"- the vocals are spoken not sung, and the "music" has no melody or harmony-only a "rythm section" of bass and drums. "the last poets" of the late gil-scott heron were doing this in the early 70s.
Posted by: the shadow knows | July 26, 2012 at 10:32 AM
Is there a team in the NFL with a worse quarterback situation than the Dolphins in 2013?
Is there any other team whose top two quarterbacks are career journeymen with no future?
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 26, 2012 at 10:34 AM
*2012
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 26, 2012 at 10:35 AM
GOTTA USE SPELL CHECK!!
"rhythm section" "one great single"
Posted by: the shadow knows | July 26, 2012 at 10:35 AM
Ok, lets let a self described musical expert, Tubesteak Dave, decide once and for all who is the best music act. All I have to say about rappers is that even though Tubesteak and the Beatles can't read music at least they can read and write which is more than what these rappers can do.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 26, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Shadow, I'll have to listen to his band's music. I've seen him playing with the Allman Brothers and he does play a great guitar.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 26, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Let's face it most people over 40 aren't going say that they like rap.
I am the exception to that rule.
Woodcock producing and playing rap music is a fairly elaborate process that requires talent period.
You may not like that sort of talent but that is your opinion.
Lil Wayne is one scary dude though I will say that but he is talented.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 26, 2012 at 10:45 AM
Rap makes me want to rap the mutherf***ers blasting that s*** in the car next to me. BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM! Problem is they're all probably packin' so I mind my business...
Posted by: dukey | July 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM
There are some extremely talented lyricists and producers in hip hop who make music that millions love.
If you can't appreciate it, you're in no position to judge it. Be like a Dolphins fan judging quarterbacks.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | July 26, 2012 at 10:52 AM
Sadly when I mention Hendrix to most blacks they look at me like I have two heads or only seem to remember he took drugs & died as result of drugs. S*** I tell them don't you realize the time period in which he was playing. Drugs were like cigarettes and you even had a Harvard used car salesman singing it praises as the ultimate "good" drug on earth. Come on...
Posted by: dukey | July 26, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Well said Baby. There is no doubt that these guys might be very good at rapping but rapping is not music.
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 26, 2012 at 10:55 AM
Hendrix was a genius no one really has come close to his level of talent since then.
Listening to Band Of Gypsies still makes me say wow.
Posted by: Big Baby | July 26, 2012 at 10:59 AM
someone pissed in Naples Jack's prune juice, calm down please.
duke, if they're packing a knife, you need a gun, if they are packing a pistol, you need an 88 on top of your Yugo.
woodcock, rappers read from a teleprompter supplied by the federal government.
bobby bowden was on the paterno bandwaggon until someone pointed out bobby's all time wins = #1 with pa joe's record erased. some think grambling's robinson deserves the all time record but... you gotta coach at a real school first.
Posted by: Jimbo | July 26, 2012 at 11:00 AM
What the hell is happening in the world!
http://news.yahoo.com/woman-rowing-perimeter-lake-michigan-sexually-assaulted-180223465--abc-news-topstories.html
Posted by: Mr. Woodcock | July 26, 2012 at 11:05 AM