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September 20, 2011

UM vs. FIU in football: Who'd win? (with poll); plus Uncle Luke sues Nevin Shapiro, new Marlins logo, Ron Jeremy rum & more

[Thanks to all today's live-chat participants. We do it each Wednesday 1-2 p.m. Click RIGHT HERE to join us live then, read transcripts or to post questions any time. Also, join us on Twitter @gregcote].

Click on Super Mario for my latest column, on coach Mario Cristobal and the rise of FIU football.

1aa1mialogo 1aa1fiulogo COULD FIU BEAT THE HURRICANES IN FOOTBALL?: I think, for the first time, the question at least is fairly debatable. UM is 1-1 off a nice, big home win vs. Ohio State. FIU is 3-0 after consecutive big wins at Louisville and vs. Central Florida. Both Miami teams are "also receiving votes" this week just outside the national Top 25 polls. I am very sure the Canes would be favored. I think but am not as sure the Canes would win. I am curious what y'all think, and why. I am not looking to start an uncivil war here. (A civil war is OK). And once again I challenge you to set aside your biased fan's interest and vote the way you honestly feel. An undercurrent of this topic is the general state of both football programs and whatever advances FIU has made. But let's focus on the core question: Who'd win and why if the Miami neighbors were playing this Saturday? 

1aa1lukerat 1aa1luke UNCLE LUKE SUES LITTLE LUKE: Random Evidence blog exclusive, first reported here: Luther Campbell is suing Nevin Shapiro, claiming the convicted Ponzi thief and renegade UM booster "slandered and defamed" him. Campbell is pictured at left and Shapiro at right. Case number 11-30137CA21 was filed in Miami-Dade Circuit Court Tuesday by Campbell's attorney, Michael J. Carney. The gist of the suit is this Shapiro quote: "Luther Campbell was the first uncle who took care of players before I got going ... and someone needed to pick up that mantle. He was Uncle Luke and I was Little Luke." Right on, Luke. Good luck ever seeing a dime. But right on, anyway.

1aa1marlinsnewlogo MAY IT NOT BE REAL!: Appearing out of the ether and on the Internet is this logo purported to be the new imprint of the Marlins. The team has no comment prior to a planned Nov. 11 unveiling of the new team logo and colors. That also is the day they drop 'Florida' and officially become the Miami Marlins. I don't like this logo. Do you? Especially I don't like the design or colors of the M. One reason this logo might not be real: Marlins president David Samson hinted this week the new colors would not include the original signature color, teal. But isn't that teal on the bottom of the M? Logo talk! 

1aa1charlie CHARLIE SHEEN ROAST: Watched it with an open mind and thought this: 1) You have a really bad roast panel when all the speakers' running gag is making fun of how little-known the other speakers are. 2) You have a really bad roast panel when your biggest stars are Mike Tyson and William Shatner. 3) You have a really sad roast when everybody is making fun of the guest of honor for his drug abuse and hookers, but it isn't a caricature. I also found it notable that on the same night Sheen starred in this ode to the dissolution of his career, the reconstituted Two And a Half Men, now starring Ashton Kutcher, earned the highest ratings in the history of the show. G'night, Charlie.

1aa1chaz SPEAKING OF TV...: How obvious is it that the new season of Dancing With The Stars is pushing Chaz Bono (left) to at least be a season-long presence? They have turned him into a novelty act at best, a freak show at worst. You know what, though? Pretty good dancer for a fat guy. Am I allowed to refer to a transgender man as a fat guy or is that doubly mean? I am imagining for some reason a Charlie Sheen/Chaz Bono Variety Hour. C'mon, people, work with me!

ME, FANTASY: Greg's Lobos lost 146-113, falling to 1-1 in my family 'n friends league. Aaron Rodgers' 26 points did not suffice. Got buried by my opponent's 39 from Vincent Jackson. Do I suck as a fantasy owner? I do. I am the opposite of "involved" player. Latest example: I forgot to not start Marques Colston, who was out injured. Inexcusable! Didn't cost me the game. But made me deserve to lose.

ME, PICKS: Nice bounceback for me in Week 2 of my NFL picks. Went 13-3 overall and 9-5-2 against the spread (wins by Bills and Cowboys pushed). Details on our Friday pix page.

COTE'S STATE OF THE STATE: Our latest updated weekly ranking of the seven FBS teams in our state, with previous week's rank in parentheses. Entering Week 4:

1aa1fla 1. FSU Seminoles (1) 2-1, 0-0 ACC

2. Florida Gators (2) 3-0, 1-0 SEC

3. S. Fla. Bulls (3) 3-0, 0-0 Big East

4. Miami Hurricanes (5) 1-1, 0-1 ACC

5. FIU G-P's (6) 3-0, 1-0 Sun Belt

6. C. Fla. Knights (4) 2-1, 0-0 C-USA

7. FAU Owls (7) 0-2, 0-0 Sun Belt

1aa1ronjeremy MMM, GOOD RUM. TASTES LIKE PORN!: Porn legend Ron Jeremy -- I have no idea if he is retired or still acting and probably wouldn't admit it if I did know -- lends the imprimatur of his good name to "Ron de Jeremy Spiced Rum" and will 1aa1jeremydouble appear this coming Saturday at a local Crown Liquors to pimp his product. If the bottle mentions a "secret ingredient," run like hell. (In a related story, see left, Ron Jeremy and Magic coach Stan Van Gundy might be the same person).

THE REAL T-30: The Real T-30 is our weekly cumulative, consensus Top 30 college football ranking based on a combination of the three major polls: Associated Press, USA Today, ESPN. Points based on 30 for a No. 1 ranking, 29 for No. 2, etc. The combined ranking entering Week 4:

Rank   Team   Points   (Last week)

1   Oklahoma   360   (1)

2   Alabama   344   (2)

3   Louisiana State   339   (3)

4   Boise State   317   (4)

5   Stanford   301   (6)

6   FLORIDA STATE   293   (5)

7   Oklahoma State   278   (7t)

8t   Wisconsin   274   (9)   

8t   Texas A&M   274   (7t)

10   Oregon   254   (10)

11   Nebraska   242   (11)

12   South Carolina   230   (12)

13t   Arkansas   221   (14)

13   Virginia Tech   221   (13)

15   FLORIDA   151   (17)

16   Michigan State   150   (15)

17   Ohio State   138   (16)

18   West Virginia   136   (18)

19   Texas Christian   118   (20)

20   Texas   107   (22t)

21   SOUTH FLORIDA   95   (25t)

22   Baylor   93   (25t)

23   Mississippi State   90   (19)

24   Arizona State   77   (21)

25   Auburn   74   (22t)

26   Missouri   58   (24)

27   Southern Cal   49   (30)

28t   Michigan   44   (31)

28t   Notre Dame   44   (27)

30   Penn State   37   (28)

36   MIAMI   13   (35t)

38t   CENTRAL FLORIDA   7   (33t)

Note: FIU does not yet chart because a team must be in top five outside Top 25s each week to score points. This week FIU is 16th outside Top 25 by The AP, 13th outside USA Today and 9th outside ESPN.

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Good one Greg on the Chaz Bono/Charlie Sheen Comedy Hour..if only the Variety shows would be broght back.

I wouldn't call wins over Louisville and UCF as "big", but certainly a step upward for FIU.

Who would want to see that grotesque character Ron Jeremy advertising anything?

Kazaam, you see those two Giants flop futbol style? But this was worse, they werent anywhere near the opponent.

Ohio State is terrible this year, they were ranked in the beginning of the season on name recognition alone. UCF and Louisville are arguably both better teams than Ohio State right now. This would be a close game right now, FIU has a very strong run defense to counter UM's strong running game. No.1 in sacks and No.5 in the nation in tackles for loss, I think FIU wins. They also have the best WR in the state in TY Hilton.

mike1 - I did! Absolutely shameful, but at least the media saw it and are ripping them appropriately for it.

Of course this is a ridiculous poll question to have three weeks into the season and there's no argument to be made regarding UCF, Louisville, and Ohio State because none of them have beaten a halfway decent team.

Ask again after the season when people might have an intelligent answer and something to say other than UM sucks.

Statistically speaking, FIU has the better defense.

Statistically speaking, FIU has the better QB.

And then there's TY Hilton, the best player in Florida, per ESPN, CNNSI, CBS Sportsline and Rivals.

FIU also has the better coaching staff.

FIU would win in a close one against UM. Heck, I think FIU could realistically beat any Florida team, including my Gators but excluding FSU.

FIU would give UM a fight, and if they played with the heart and passion that they've been playing recently... they would win. Close or not.

Statistically speaking Kansas State has the best defense in the nation.

Statistics tend not to work with a sample size of three.

That's not true ProudPanther, if FIU was hypothetically playing UM and they were hypothetically playing with the heart and passion that they've been playing with recently UM could just hypothetically use a shrink ray to turn T.Y. Hilton into a G.I. Joe.

Again, very dumb poll with no possibility for informed or intelligent answers three games into the season.

Ah, I see Cote wrote an article about Mario Cristobal, hence the poll.

Don't agree with him that Mario Cristobal will be leaving Florida International anytime soon - it's a huge state school, more students than Florida State.

The Florida government has put hundreds and hundreds of millions of tax dollars into Florida International to turn it from the two year finishing school that the state needed into a fifth state research university.

They'll just pay him if someone else comes a'knockin'. Plus he likes it down here.

Fifth State research university? Perhaps you'd like to explain how they've beat all other state schools in the latest Florida Bar exam. FYI, that's the fifth time its happened in as many years. Additionally, FIU has the strictest admission rate, only 35% of those that apply are accepted. Those that think FIU is still a two year finishing school probably think Miami Vice is still an active prime time television show.

http://barprofessors.wordpress.com/2011/09/19/july-2011-florida-bar-exam-results-by-law-school/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Florida_universities_by_admission_rates

Thanks for the love Greg. Watch the tone of this blog comments section turn from its current positive state to negative tomorrow once the UM trolls show up in disbelief.

That's the old FIU logo. Fix it.

New Marlins logo sucks! Lose the orange. Man we have enough teams down here with orange. Go with like a blue/silver/black color scheme & a classic looking hat (like the yankees, red sox, and dodgers do it).

Please someone get rid of the ugly new Marlins stuff. Someone just beat Loria up until he changes it.

Also, I think FIU or UM in a close one. Literally a coin flip right now, but I have some FIU bias. Even then, just looking at it objectively, I think it'd be close... right now.

I think it'd be close. FIU has the better QB and all-star WR, UM has the all-star running back.

Coaching it a push. Offense is a push. Defense goes to FIU for sure.

GOOD LUCK TO BOTH THE REST OF THE SEASON!! BOTH represent South Florida across the nation, AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF BOTH.

man that would be a great game . it would have what is probably the best running back in the state on the best wide receiver in the state .

I give the edge to fiu after seeing what TY I has done to all those teams

The new Marlins logo looks like it belongs on a convention center. We'll be called the Miami Rainbow Warriors...hehe you know what rainbows bring to mind.
Chaz Bono can probably outplay Soliai at this point. It's got quick feet and probably weighs as much.

I would love to see this game at the new Marlins Stadium. Extra bleachers could easily be added to expand the seating to 45K +-. That would be amazing!

This would be the only year it would be a competitive game. UM is going away for a long, long time.

So Mr. Cote you think FIU would win? Is that as solid a pick as your first two picks for the Fins to (definitely, seriously) beat the Pats and the Texans?

Great job by FIU this season, my hats off to them but they will always be Forever Inferior to the U!

Anonymous,

Does your "inferior" comment include UM's next five years when they will very likely face everything short of the death sentence?

CHOMP CHOMP

http://www.fiugoldenpanthers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3092

HERALD ASKS, WHO WOULD WIN UM OR FIU? VOTE VOTE VOTE!!!
-- quijote

BALLOT BOX STUFFING

UM would win. Cristobal has done an amazing job with what he has had to work with. I wanted him to be looked at for the Miami job, before it was clear Golden is awesome. But they only went 7-6 last year so let's slow "FIU takes down the world" talk until they are in a conference it takes more than a 6-6 record to win. T.Y. Hilton is obviously a great player, but at wide receiver, he can't do it alone against Sean Spence and Co.

Even if FIU goes undefeated, it won't play a single team that was ranked (or will be ranked) by the end of the season. Can only be so good playing against that kind of low caliber competition. I think Miami would be crushing the kind of teams FIU has played so far and will play the rest of the year. If Cristobal stays and is serious about making FIU a player they're going to have to move up at least to the Big East and forget about scheduling schools like UCF until they become truly relevant (UCF has a nice team too, but FIU and UCF are both in the same position trying to get respect and the game is pointless until one of them has it.) Miami rose to the top scheduling anyone and beating the best. FIU wants to join the club, then they need to put in the work to build their resume and big game experience. One win over an unranked FBS team in the history of the school is a nice start, but not exactly a sign of greatness. Until then, there really is no comparing Miami and FIU football.

Alleged new Marlins logo worse than horrible.

Quijote - I'm talking ancient history, Florida International was intended to be a degree granting institution for all the community college kids in the state. In my opinion we didn't need another research university and now we again need a finishing school for the hundreds of thousands of kids going through Miami Dade. Of course then that school would get illusions of grandeur and we'd wind up with a sixth public research university.


That looks like the old Miami Floridians jersey, I kind of like it.

Those that think FIU is still a two year finishing school

Thanks for the love Greg.

Posted by: Quijote | September 20, 2011 at 11:47 PM

http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-miami-1536

bending over backwards to accommodate a tier 4 commuter school whose students, faculty and alumni unabashedly root for U ...
whose everlasting credo reads ...
go to class ...
drive away ...
never look back ...

CHEAP. CLOSE. INDISCRIMINATE.

I wouldn't call wins over Louisville and UCF as "big"

Posted by: mike1 | September 20, 2011 at 09:39 PM

For all the hype surrounding this year's UCF Knights football program, Central Florida hasn't had a lot of success against teams from one of the six BCS AQ conferences. During the Knights' brief stint in college football's top division, UCF has gone just 4-47 (0.078) against teams in one of the six BCS AQ conferences.
-- bcinteruption

BFD

if FIU was hypothetically playing UM and they were hypothetically playing

Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 20, 2011 at 11:18 PM

not gonna play ...
'cause what you seek is coverage at our expense ...

NEVER AGAIN

Looks like the UM trolls are hating on FIU, as green's preferred stalker "victim" Quijote pointed out last night.

Why are you trolling on FIU fan boards anyways, Green? You'll never catch this gator on FIU, or Seminole, boards.

EASY Quest.

FIU wins the game because of the following FACTS:
FIU has a better Defense

FIU has a better Coaching Staff

FIU has a better QB (who is your QB??)

FIU does not have half their team on NCAA suspensions.

FIU can recruit a good class of players even after going 0-12 (imagine what they have coming to them this year)

FIU has TY Hilton (thats easy!)

FIU and UM both have great OL's

UM does have a mascot that out performs our Roary (I hate to admit it).

UM has great tradition but nothing in the pass TEN YEARS.

Close game but the Golden Panthers take this one.

Go FIU

GOOD LUCK TO BOTH THE REST OF THE SEASON!! BOTH represent South Florida across the nation, AND WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF BOTH.

Posted by: Canes In My Brains | September 21, 2011 at 06:13 AM

Hey guys make sure that on the Herald site click on "RECOMMEND" at end of articles about FIU (it has a little upward arrow next to it).

Its one of the ways they rank the popularity of articles on the site with their new software Pluck (we are rolling it out at my newspaper).

In some ways its more than page views since the reader actually read the page and recommends it.

everything helps to get the message through to the guys at the Herald.

LEts make sure every FIU article has at 20 to 30 Recommends
-- OC Panther

get it through your thick head ...
not our peer ...
not our rival ...
in fact, f-i-u-don't-matter ...
no matter how often you click the recommend icon -- since removed -- or cry your beady eyes out in an orchestrated effort to game the herald ...

CRY ME A RIVER

FIU is killing it right now, but I don't think they could seriously challenge FSU, UF, or USF. Maybe - maybe - they could challenge UM, and maybe even closely beat them. Cristobal has done an awesome job at FIU, and TY Hilton is basically FIU's Percy Harvin - and probably a future NFL pro bowler. One of the reasons FIU would be dangerous for any big school is that big schools sleep on new programs like FIU. If you underestimate FIU, they will beat you.
Greg, the Marlins logo is HIDEOUS. I'm a big Marlins fan, and I would be disgusted if this turned out to be the new logo. I think they should keep something that closely resembles the current / traditional logo. What is it about this greedy sack of **** Loria that he loves to destroy his own team? It kills me to see Uggla and Gonzalez hitting homers on us left and right.
Lastly, Luke is a broke idiot. We all know he paid UM players in the past, but now he wants to act holier than thou. It's very hard to prove slander. Why doesn't he sue the guys that made the U documentary?
Go ahead and sue me Luke. My revenge is watching dah U get the death penalty. Now go pop that coochie, you hypocrite!

GREEN, but since recommend icon has been "since removed", Herald CLEARLY giving FIU more love than ever before. Not just them, but CBS Sportsline, CNNSI, RIVALS, ESPN (which just picked up the Duke game, that makes it like 8 of first 9 games on ESPNs)... everyone getting in thanks to RELEVANCE and sheer SIZE.

45k students, soon to be 60k students.

2 FIU alumni for everyone 1 UM alumni by end of decade and compounding after that.

FIU Law (which just beat out all other law school BAR results in the state, ONCE AGAIN)

FIU School of Medicine

And of course... the beautiful HUNNIES that attend FIU.

KEEP CRYING, KEEP HATIN'

Ohio State is terrible this year, they were ranked in the beginning of the season on name recognition alone. UCF and Louisville are arguably both better teams than Ohio State right now.

Posted by: College football fanatic | September 20, 2011 at 09:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLO1PT_oFL0

a feeble attempt to diminish our great victory in front of 66k+ spectators and untold millions out there in TV land ...
yearning for the inevitable return of Hurricane glory ...

FE FI FO FUM

The art deco logo is not the greatest but it beats what they have now. They should just resurrect the old Miami Marlins one from the minor league team that used to play here. I'd like to see them go old English on the M like the Stingarees used to have on their unis. But a team playing in a stadium that looks like a space ship is not having old school unis get ready for the Miami Peacocks.

My hope is that the Marlins fold in a few years and they add 25,000 seats and make it into the best college football stadium in the state.

Green how many times did your mother drop you on your head when you were young?

Or are you an orphan? That would explain your bitter hatred of life.

GREEN,

ESPN (which just picked up the Duke game

Posted by: Owned | September 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Duke-FIU moved from ESPN3.com to ESPNU
-- matt sarzyniak

STEPSISTER

Kazaam,

if you are into jerseys, then kansas state basketball is for you!! they might have been the last team in america to wear t-shirts (with cap sleeves) and also had lavender tops with much darker blue shorts!! i believe they were still wearing the contrasting jerseys and shorts while rolando blackmon was there, although by then they might have junked the t-shirt look. also, the aggies of new mexico state and the chieftains of seattle (where elgin baylor played, now not playing basketball in the top tier) also wore t-shirts. we are really talking old school here!!

Take it from a guy who designs professional logos. That Marlin logo sucks! It says nothing about the brand nor does it deliver any kind of emotion. I would say that it looks like sh**, but that would be doing sh** a disservice.

GREEN,

everyone getting in thanks to RELEVANCE and sheer SIZE.

45k students, soon to be 60k students.

2 FIU alumni for everyone 1 UM alumni by end of decade and compounding after that.

Posted by: Owned | September 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM

The student sections got packed, but the rest of the crowd could’ve carpooled in a West Kendall mom van.
-- David J. Neal's Few thoughts from FIU 41, North Texas 16
September 02, 2011

you employ specious logic ...
neither alumnus nor student necessarily equals fan ...
FAN = FAN
case in point: me
I attended uf undergrad & law ...
don't give a flying f _ _ k about that school ...
a C-A-N-E to the core ...

SOULMATE

Too bad that Ron Jeremy chose to market rum as opposed to vodka. He missed a golden opportunity on a twist to an old classic - A Jeremy Wallbanger.

FIU School of Medicine

KEEP CRYING, KEEP HATIN'

Posted by: Owned | September 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM

http://www.miami.edu/index.php/features/a_new_era_begins/

"UM ushers in new era with dedication of its Life Science & Technology Park"

BRAVE NEW WORLD

You graduated UF undergrad and law school, and are a CANE? I highly doubt this, why on earth would a Gator in disguise root for the Canes. Maybe if you graduated St. Thomas Law school, but UF has so much more to offer than UM. Gator nation is a networking juggernaut. That makes absolutely zero sense. I'm also very suspicious of you graduating law school, judging by your horrific writing pattern and historical contributions to this thread.

GREEN, but since recommend icon has been "since removed", Herald CLEARLY giving FIU more love than ever before.

Posted by: Owned | September 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM

http://www.facebook.com/miamihurricanes

here's the rub ...
because of guilt, threat or inducement ...
the f_ _ cking faint-hearted herald could lead with f-i-u-don't-matter
all day ...
everyday ...
it won't matter ...
the sophisticated readership skips over their articles ...
never amongst the most read or commented ...
all the while alienating the paper's core cUstoMer ...
so, you can lead a horse to water ...
but you can't make it drink ...

EXERCISE IN F(I)UTILITY

GREEN, but since recommend icon has been "since removed", Herald CLEARLY giving FIU more love than ever before.

Posted by: Owned | September 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM

http://www.facebook.com/universityofmiami

what have these undeserving cockroaches done to deserve disproportionate coverage besides e-bomb the paper's brain trust and pick a fight with the schoolyard bully ...
therefore, the enormous University of Miami community should fight fire with fire by boycotting the f_ _ king faint-hearted herald for acceding to the outrageous demands of the 8th street extortionists ...

HIT 'EM THE POCKETBOOK

GREEN, but since recommend icon has been "since removed", Herald CLEARLY giving FIU more love than ever before.

Posted by: Owned | September 21, 2011 at 11:11 AM

UM has had far superior teams, having won many national championships in football and baseball. That means that there is more to write about. Far more fans, moreover, go to Hurricane games. The followers of the Hurricane blog at MiamiHerald.com outnumber those following the Golden Panthers one by about 10-1, sports editor Jorge Rojas says.

There is, in other words, much more readership demand for coverage of the Hurricanes than of the Golden Panthers.
-- miami herald ombudsman 8/1/10

UM does and should get the greater share of sports coverage
-- miami herald ombudsman 8/8/10

this isn’t The Miami Herald’s fault. Until FIU starts to matter in a big way, in a way that UM matters, there will never be that same coverage, at least not in the sports page. ...

But until your everyday FIU student or alumni begins to care in a significant way and specifically until it affects The Miami Herald’s bottom line, they’ll continue to pay that other school more attention.
-- fiu student media 8/25/10

PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH

Green... get help.

reading what these FIU fans write proves the point of why FIU is an INFERIOR school with INFERIOR academics and INFERIOR acceptance requirements.

Seriously? Louisville is better than OSU? Seriously? UCF is better than OSU? LOL.

Louisville is average at best. Basically in the same category as UCF.

The difference, none of you future brain surgeons cannot accept is the depth of talent that Miami has. Not just the starting rotations. But when Miami starts pounding the ball on you with Miller, James or someone else, youor #1 LBS and D-line better have someone just as good behind them. Newsflash- They dont.

I will take everything back in 11 weeks, when and if FIU runs the table in their "superior" conference, which still wont say much anyway.

Listen, Miami in 2006 destroyed FIU 35-0 with limited time due to the brawl that FIU started.
It would have been 60-0 otherwise, and in fact, Coker,notoriously would have backed off at 50-0

I realize they are different teams. Miami is at least 50% better, while FIU is 75% better. End result:

UM 40 FIU 21.

Still not close.And that takes NOTHING away from TY or Carroll. Both good players.

FIU fans are delusional... Again!

Unless they have a game against each other, who gives a shit who wins, the u, or FIU!!! Typical BS. from Cote to get hits on this site.

OC - why don't you make a new Dolphins Satisfaction Meter logo? The current one looks like the logo for Globodyne or Initech or something.

Give it a rest green, there is no grand conspiracy, there is legitimately more interest in Florida International down here than UM.

UM students come from the northeast and go home when they graduate.

Florida International students live at home with their parents and stay down here when they graduate.

Tru dat, Kazaam

Beating UCF and Louisville are not big wins.
This is a joke of an article.UCF beat Boston College, who lost to DUKE for crying out loud. FIU needs to join a real conference and play some real talent. Do at least what FAU does and play real opponents.FIU tied with Troy for the conference, they were co-champions and not even repeat champions. Miami beat FIU with less talent then the have now. And don't even get me started with the guy that says OSU would lose to FIU. Their one running back would shred FIU in two. T Y Hilton is a heisman contender. Yeah when you get 200+ yards to pad your stats against garbage teams.

^^^Haters gonna hate^^^

Dolphins signed two more former Cowboys.

That'll do it.

Every step FIU takes will be greeted with hate...by the haters.

It used to be said, we'd never play on ESPN...then that happened, twice...and won both.

It used to be said, we'd never beat an AQ program, epscially on the road...then that happened.

It use to be said, UCF was years ahead of FIU and could not compete at this point in time...we know how that turned out.

So yes, for FIU, when a new step fwd is acheived, Panthers cheer. We cheer because we know how challenging it is to hear the constant critisms that FIU will never achieve this or that...and when FIU turns the impossible into the inevitable, as Pres. Rosenberg often declares, it feels great.

The examples are endless, but ya get the point.

Naysayers, be damned. FIU is kickin' down the door regardless if you welcome us or not.

Go ahead, keep the hate coming...it makes every single step twds success that much sweeter.

Panthers, focus. #BeatUL (that's all that matters)

Well said gpantera

I'm an FIU alumnus class of 1977. I root for both teams. I had season tickets for the Dolphs in 73 and 74, paid $60 for 7 season and 3 preseason games. I gotta say of the three my favorite by far are the Canes, that still does not stop me from rooting for all three big time. I'm a Miami kid. I root for and support my community.

Kazaam,

You are correct in your perception of the Dolphins' Satisfaction Meter logo. Greg borrowed it a few years back from DSM, a large Danish multinational corporation, which among other things produces pharmaceuticals. They have updated their logo since Cote started using it, but their hexagonal mark is still present. I'm a bit surprised that DSM has yet to issue a cease and desist order on The Herald, perhaps due in part to this blog's low radar signature.

As for a new design, It would be tough to beat my Canes Satisfaction Meter logo, but anything is better than what he's currently running. Then again its crappy look IS consistent with the product it represents.

I will say this. Any more Cowboys and our mascot will soon morph into this:

http://dolphinspictures.net/a-Dolphin-and-a-cow.jpg

Hey Cote, can you at least use FIU's updated logo? A simple cut "n" paste will do.

fellers,

our host responded to a wednesday chat question i posed by stating that later this evening or by tomorrow he will have a column written addresing the possibility that the dolpins will go 0-5 or 1-4, and if so would that mean "bye, bye, sparano and friends". as he advised, stay tuned!! if the dolphins can't handle colt mccoy, peyton hillis, and friends- well, with the chargers and jets in away games 0-5 would be a real possibilty, which IMHO would mean that a new man heads miami's football team.

shadow,

A couple of days ago I posted that Sparano will not make it past October. I still believe that. In the natural order of things Mike Nolan would take over as the interim coach given a smidgeon of a chance to turn it around. However, any change needs to include Ireland, as anything short of that permeates into more of the same.

Wow FIU fans are delusional and rude. If FIU were to play Miami this weekend they'd get beat badly.

That's not a subjective opinion, but a reasonable prediction considering FIU's strength of schedule and a number of other factors.

It's ok to support your team but to talk down another team (the Canes) to make you feel better is just a waste of time.

I think FIU is a pretty good team. Are they where they want to be? Not yet.

OC Dolphin,

the loss sunday to houston was a abyssmal, dismal affair and has led to the scenario that will lead to the departure of sparano, as you say, by the ned of october. it will take a miracle for the dolphins to be 3-2 after the jet game in new york, and without Divine Intervention, sparano will not be here to kick around anymore. i doubt that cowher, or especially gruden, will leave the TV booth to take over this mess, thus as you state, mike nolan will take over shortly.

I'm thinking more like Henny Youngman. If he's still alive. "Take my wife, please." At least Henny can keep the Head Jew laughing while he counts the seagulls eating two week old popcorn in the stands at Joe Robbie.

Guys, since we are already thinking of getting rid of Sparano, what do you guys think of Jeff Fisher ?...I think he would be a great fit here.

as for Ireland, I have been one of his supporters on this blog but if we get Fisher I would imagine we also would have a new GM.

looking forward to sunday's game, they SHOULD win this game.

Another question to ponder, What the Hell is going on with our defense ?

Hey, "Gator Nation" finally revealed himself as the FIU troll that he is.

Should've guessed that no Gators fan would say FIU could beat UF!!

I'm with Kazaam, they should make it look like the old Miami Floridians jerseys.

Also get those ball girls to distract the batters analogous to how the Floridians girls were placed until the basket during opponents free throws.

Anyone know if they're going to have the Mermaids swimming in the aquarium?

Another Dolphins 0-16 and Pats 16-0 threat?

This year's Gators aren't the legendary team from a few year's back. Every dynasty has its rebuilding years, and FIU would be very competitive should they catch us now.

Try again in a couple years, and it'll be CHOMP CHOMP

Hahahahaha, yea right troll, ur not fooling anyone.

UM sucks! Period. The football team has averaged what..around 6 losses the last 5 years. Sure, they would dominate fools when they had Dorsey, Ed Reed, Portis, Andre Johnson, Vilma, etc. They are awful now, though. UM could go 0-12 and fans would still be pumping up "da U". No lie. It's not so much the team that annoys me (gotta give credit to some of the stud players that have come out of there). The people who go to that school are annoying. Bunch of f*cking spoiled amateurs who think they're aristocrats. I think I may have met one or two UM alums that I like. Most have that typical, pretentious attitude that runs rampant in Coral Gables. You're not Harvard, Yale, or Stanford. You're thug U. Ray Lewis's murdering ass walked through UM's classrooms. CASE CLOSED. And if you don't like the Dolphins acknowledging Tim Tebow...then take your garbage ass team out of OUR stadium and go to Tropical Park. Set up a few lawn chairs. Out.

And the people who go to no school move to Boca.

that has to be the dumbest and least accurate description of UM students i have ever heard.

alex in boca clearly never went to college and is just jealous of anyone who could.

alright everyone saying FIU is better in academics is a joke...miami is 38 in the nation in academics best in the state by 20 spots...FIU didn't even make the list...second MIAMI MED is 45th in the nation and the best in florida along with UF COM and third Miami's alumni base is mostly in the northeast...UM gets a lot of out of state students because it is a private school and a very good academic institution along with it...also FIU fans please win 5 rings beat a team like OSU (which btw is MUCH better than Lville and UCF by a landslide since OSUs D is still one of the best in the country) and all your statistics on saying FIU's D is better than UM's...Does FIU have a Forston (NFL First or Second Round Pick), Vernon (Future First rounder), Ojomo (future draft pick), Chickillo (five star stud), Spence, Ray Ray (First round pick and top junior safety in the nation), or VT on their side...Lamar miller is a beast and all your stats don't mean crap when your level of competition isn't great...GT ran for 600+ yards does it make em an unstoppable machine on offense - Not exactly when you've played poor opponents your first three weeks

Alex said it best. Duh U is an irrelevant program with snotty students. Enjoy watching gator nation make noise in your stadium again when the Broncos come to town.

I respect what FIU is doing, and I love Mario as he is a former Cane. But the cold reality for anyone objectively analyzing this hypothetical matchup is that it would not be close. I've heard so much about TY Hilton vs. Lamar Miller in this thread, but none of the people talking about those guys know the first thing about football. Football games are won and lost at the line of scrimmage, and the following paints a very clear picture of why UM would (literally) manhandle FIU. FIU has a lot of good athletes, and so does UM. What FIU does not yet have - and they may someday, who knows- are top flight hogs.

(I took these averages from starting projected starting lineups if both teams are healthy)

FIU O Line vs. UM D line:

FIU- 6'4 272, 6'3 275, 6'2 280, 6'2 286, 6'2 270.
UM- 6'3 305 6'3 300 6'1 255 6'2 360

FIU O Line AVG- 6'2 270 UM D Line Avg- 6'2 305

UM O Line vs. FIU D Line

UM- 6'8 345, 6'6 323, 6'2 310, 6'4 320, 6'6 310
FIU- 6'4 255, 6'3 285, 6'5 290, 6'9 260

UM O Line Avg- 6'5 321 FIU D Line Avg- 6'5 272

So, ladies and gentleman...The U averages 30 pounds a man bigger on the line when on D, and 49 pounds a man bigger on the line when on O. Here ends any and all rational debate on this topic.

THIS IS FOR ALEX IN BOCA....

Your ridiculous little opinion has been noted, also this is a reminder that your village called, they are missing their Idiot.

Wow, Alex in Boca you clearly were bitten by a UM student when you were a child.

gocanes,

for all your statistics about the size of UM versus FIU, chew on this song title:

"IT AIN"T THE MEAT, IT'S THE MOTION"!!!

"bigger" doesn't trump quicker, more agile, and smarter. remember the day manny fernandez had in the super bowl against the redskins (17 tackles)? smart and quick bested big and slow and most always will.

Shadow Knows,

You bring up a valid point. But there is a reason the NFL is all about size on the lines- it matters. Real Cane followers will list Vince Wilfork as one of the 2-3 most important players on our early 2000s runs because he enabled us to completely control the middle of the field when we were on defense. he was 375 pounds and immovable by even the quickest of players. Speed and agility is important on the line as well for sure, but I question your certainty that FIU's linemen are smarter and more agile than those of UM. I wish you all luck this season, it would be great for both of the home teams to win out their seasons.

gocanes,

a very noble attitude in wishing both UM and FIU success this season. most of the canes supporters are irritated greatly that FIU is having a good season and as you stated it would be great if both teams won out-then they might meet in a BCS bowl and expunge memories of that awful night when they rumbled on the field.

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