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April 30, 2011

Grade the Dolphins' overall 2011 draft: Vote now! (with poll)

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1aa1dolphs2 1aa1dolphs GRADE THE DOLPHINS' DRAFT: Interesting six-man draft for Miami, bookended by Mike Pouncey and a cornerback who did time for murder before ultimately being acquitted. OY! I know, I know. "You can't fairly judge any team's draft for at least two years. Dummy!" I get it. The thing is, I'm writing a daily blog here, not an encyclopedia. We're at Internet-speed, not waiting for carrier pigeons. This grade isn't science, it's simply a first impression by Dolfans, the aggregate response to a few questions I'd ask you to consider:

Based on what you know or have read/heard do you like the players drafted? Do they target the right needs? Were players bypassed who should have been taken? What overall feeling do you take out of the draft?

My own thoughts: Mike Pouncey was a solid, safe pick but might have been had later with a trade-down. Hated to see other teams -- Bengals with Andy Dalton and especially rival Patriots with Ryan Mallett -- take the calculated shots on big upside with available QBs. Miami should have, even later with a guy like Ricky Stanzi. RB Mark Ingram also seemed a higher-impact 1R pick for Miami. Thought 2R pick Daniel Thomas fits but was maybe was a reach with the trade-up. Liked Edmond Gates and that speed a lot in 4R. Charles Clay in 6R brings receiving element to blocking role. The last-round guys -- Frank Kearse and acquitted murderer Jimmy Wilson -- are a crapshoot. My overall gut-reaction grade might be a B or C, leaning B. (For what it's worth, draft god Mel Kiper Jr. graded Miami a B-plus on needs, a C on value and an overall B-minus). Now what are your thoughts?

Here's the poll. Vote now, and say why in a comment. I know there are no plus/minus grades. Hey, I pay you to make the tough decisions! A synopsis of Miami's 2011 draft is included just below the poll:

2011 DOLPHINS DRAFT

1st round (15th overall): Florida C/G Mike Pouncey -- Should help interior blocking line immediately.

2nd round (62nd): Kansas State RB Daniel Thomas (after trade-up) -- Fits in Wildcat, but is he up to being a featured back? 

4th round (111th): Abilene Christian WR Edmond Gates -- Speed alone gives him a tantalizing upside.

6th round (174th): Tulsa FB Charles Clay (after trade-up) -- A productive receiver in a typical block-first role.   

7th round (231st): Alabama A&M DT Frank Kearse -- Wide-load guy supposedly looked great before scouts at school's pro day.  

7th round (235th): Montana CB Jimmy Wilson -- Whatever his talent, his past including a murder charge and an acquittal, will be the story.

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If "F-" were available, I would give that grade. This team refuses to admit that the QB position is the most important on any team. They are living in a bubble, or a cave, or in 1960. I'm rooting for 1) Lockout; 2) 1-15 so we can get Luck

Jake your an idiot. Luck is no sure thing, the dude hasn't taken a snap in the NFL. People were just as sure about Locker last year. Why don't you root Henne figures out how to be a good QB and the RB and WR we picked up this year are studs. Get your sh*t together as a fan and stop embarrassing the rest of us.

EKS, the C, RB, and WR they picked are no sure thing either.

What a bunch of morons letting the Patriots draft Mallet after he was available twice.

This draft = F-

Fire Ireland now!!!

Sure I agree with that,no pick is a sure thing. But to sit here in April and knock a draft with a bunch of kids you haven't seen adapt to the NFL game and you have not seen the growth in the players on the roster either and have the short sighted - knee jerking plead to fire the GM is ridiculous. Save your energy and root for the fins lets see what happens and if the fins suck the GM is gone. Just have a little perspective man!

Not as negative as some on this board. I gave this a strong "B". Could have been a "A" with a QB, but it's looking like that will be shored up in free agency (whenever that will happen).

Hey, it was a good solid draft. Didn't have a load of picks and had a lot of needs. Most needs were addressed. So many teams reached early for quarter backs and most of them will end up being third string backups in a few years (ie Brady Quinn). While the other teams wasted picks on qb's,the Dolphins can address a qb when the free agent pool or trades open up. They needed to draft safe as they did not have lots of picks and looks like they got some good solid players.
Regardless of this years draft, Fish are not winning the division, nor competing...we're not there yet.
Good job.

I give this draft a grade of C because once again we take the safe pick and he will be a good player but we had alot bigger needs and to draft a rb with 4-6 speed not impressd lex hilliard anybody same exact player as for the wr reminds me of ted ginn great speed afraid of going over the middle and drops balls plus the competition he was playing against ted ginn would look like a Hall Of Famer against so we will see what happens.

Draft picks are the foundation of success just look at GB, TB (last two drafts), and NE. Keeping your picks, getting more picks, and drafting smart, not out of desperation, are what those have done and are doing. I have no idea if any of the Fins' picks will be good or bad. NE, being smart/ knowing the value of draft picks/ drafting smart (not out of desperation), now has 2 1st round picks 2 2nd picks in next year's draft like they had this year. The Dolphins give up 3rd, 5th, and 7th round picks to trade up to get this RB while NE uses its 2nd 2nd round pick to get Mallett to sit and groom behind their 7th round pick/ Hall of Fame Qb.

The success of this draft will be determined by the Dolphins move up in the 2nd Round to get Thomas. If Thomas produces, then the move will be viewed as brilliant. I also like the 4th round speedy WR pick as well. However, there is still a need for a QB to challenge Henne, a speedy pass-catching TE, and a NT to keep Soliai honest. Hopefully, the Dolphins will pick up D. Williams (RB) in free agency, a savvy veteran QB and a pass-catching TE.

Stupidest management I have ever seen. From the owner on down. They just sealed another 7-9 season. But they proved how stupid they were with the whole coach chasing thing. No one they picked has an impact for next year. I just don't get why this team REFUSES to ADDRESS THE QB POSITION.

I'm reading in the blog where some of you say the phins are building pieces and not 'there' yet...whatever that means. They WERE THERE 3 YEARS AGO AT 11-5 AND THEY REFUSED TO BUILD ON THAT BY NOT ADDING PIECES THEY NEEDED. NOW THEY ARE REGRESSING EVERY YEAR. WHAT THE HELL KIND OF TEAM ARE YOU HOPING FOR? ONE THAT LOSES EVERY YEAR?! THE TEAM AND MANAGEMENT ARE PATHETIC!!

This draft sucked GIANT SIZED F, epic FAIL! There is a reason why the Dolphins have had a losing record since pennington went down...

Running the ball is a good thing, but you must have quarterback that can throw accurately down the field.

I recall a certain 2009 Indianapolis game where the fins ran the ball for about 239 yards and lost despite eating up all of the clock possession. Manning just threw a couple bombs down the field 300+ yards and won the game...... Then there was the dolphins game against the jets, where the dolphins did nothing the entire game - jets ran all over the place, and Ted Ginn scored two special team touchdowns to win the game for the fins. Again despite the jets eating the clock and running the ball, the fins won on special teams..

Again, Do you still think that Henne is our QB? Why are we wasting second round picks on a RB? when you can get a decent RB in the fourth round...

You start building a team with an LT (we have one, Jake Long); an RB (ronnie brown is alright for another year); and a QB nowhere to be found (henne is not the guy).

Ross is going to have to throw a lot of money around in Free Agency to fix this team, even then I have my doubts that they are going to find the right QB.

Dolphins get an GIGANTIC F for not drafting a QB. Every position that they drafted could have been found in free agency except a franchise QB.

Voted B. Pouncey is a big upgrade and starts immediately. He SHOULD improve the entire line.

Drafting the fullback who isn't a good blocker seems like a wasted pick.

Drafting 7th rd DT & CB who was aquitted of murder are head scratchers.

what improves the grade to a B is trading up to the 2nd round for a starting RB & a possible great find in a very fast WR.

Dolphins addressed C-G, RB, WR
let me down in the TE department. there were 3 good TE's that were available after 1st rd and the team didn't take one.

Like to see Reggie Bush or DeAngelo Williams be added 2.

F for fuckingdisaster.

i believe the acquitted cornerback was also once arrested for unexpectedly biting a woman on the leg while riding together in a car. one can only hope that someone gets the urge to chomp down on jeff ireland after this erratic draft.

"and accused/acquitted murderer Jimmy Wilson -- are a crapshoot."

accused and acquitted huh Coatie ?

why would you even print that crap and make it an issue ?

oh yeah, ... no editor on duty and Pope is catatonic ...


ur guilty

Solid B

Mercifully, won't have to hear about the "exciting" Mr. Mallett for a while- gone at #74 to a team with too many picks with no urgent need at QB.

Once again this management and coaching staff shows no eye for talent!!! You bypass a good back and trade up to get an average back!!! Then let's not even mention RYAN MALLET!!! A Tom Brady clone, so now the Pats have there QB of the future!!! I guess were waiting on Andrew Luck??? GOOD LUCK!!!! Im officially on stand by as to know longer be a fan as long as the STOOGES are in charge!!! Oh yeah get an owner that knows football!!! THIS AIN'T ENTERTAINMENT!!!! We have Vince Mcman running our show!!

A CENTER WHO HAS TROUBLE GETTING THE BALL TO A QB WHO HAS TROUBLE THROWING IT DOWNFIELD TO A DRAFT PICK WHOSE GAME IS PRIMARILY DOWNFIELD RECEIVING. A RUNNING BACK WHO ADMITS TO NOT BEING WHAT YOU'D CALL A TRACK STAR AND A PARTNER IN THE BACKFIELD WHO IS BEING LOOKED AT AS SOMEONE WHO WILL BLOCK FOR SAID SLOW RUNNING BACK ALBEIT THE QUICKER OF THE TWO. AND LASTLY A CB WILL WOULD RATHER JUST AS SOON KILL YA THAN LET YOU BEAT HIM DOWNFIELD. AH....THE DOLPHINS BRAIN TRUST IN THE WAR ROOM OF A TYPICAL NFL DRAFT WEEKEND.
FIRST JIM MANDICH PASSES AWAY THIS WEEK AND NOW THE POWERS THAT BE FOR THE DOLPHINS ARE TRYING TO KILL THE REST OF US!!!

Nice Brian, nice indeed. Can you say "Hello Mr's Peterson & Cowher" 2012?
My prediction all along is that Ireland, Sparano & Henne will be fired at the conclusion of the 2011 season,, if there is one

Not 1 player will make a positive impact on the field for the Phins this year. What a waste of a draft

I cannot say that this draft was a safe or solid or whatever you want to call it. At least it seems less random and addresses several weak spots, except of course the QB. Concerning this latter, I think the staff wanted to give Henne one last chance. But whatever it happens with Henne next season, I'm almost sure that the staff will select a QB in the first round next year. If Henne turns to be as inconsistent as usual, then the staff will do whatever it takes to select the best QB for the 2012 draft.
So being optimistic, I think the Dolphins are just one year away from his hypothetical franchise QB to be.

Who are these people?

marchcool- your right in respect that "they" want Henne to start another season. "They" are on the hot seat to win now or get sent packing. So drafting a QB in this draft wasn't going to happen.

Now don't be suprised that IF there is a season a veteran qB like McNabb or Palmer are brought in. Bulger is another possibility. Bulger and McNabb aren't worth bringing in & Palmer may put up some OK #'s but he is a loser. Last yrs Bengals were supposed to be playoff team and instead qualified for the #2 overall pick in the draft. IMO NONE of them are going to make the Fins a Super Bowl team. Only Palmer is worth a draft pick & he's not worthy anything over #4 in 2012.

Lst plc finish- All of the picks were made to pay dividends this yr.
Pouncey & Thomas are instant starters. Both will be every down players. Gates may play quite a bit depending if he produce right away. Gates will be the Kick & punt returner. The DL was brought in to back up Soliai, the CB & FB/TE were brought in for special teams.

Dolphins were blessed with the easiest schedule next season-again. With the exception that they have gotten so bad that other teams are circling the games against Miami as an easy W!

The Fins aren't rivals with New England or Jets. You have to be threatening to oponent to consider rivalry. the Bills are the Fins only rivalry now. Not the Marino vs Kelly rivalry but 2 bums begging for a dollar rivalry.

From CBSSports grading the draft

Miami Dolphins: B

The Dolphins identified their most obvious weaknesses and set about fixing them with their first two selections. Mike Pouncey solidifies the interior of the offensive line and former Kansas State running back Daniel Thomas will prove to be a steal in the second round. The Dolphins added much-needed speed at receiver in Abilene Christian's Edmond Gates in the fourth round, giving the club the big-play threat it has been lacking since trading away Ted Ginn, Jr.

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Ok I start reading this and I'm feeling a little better about our draft. According to this Daniel Thomas is going to be a steal. Seems to be good news.

Then I get to the last sentence "The Dolphins added much-needed speed at receiver in Abilene Christian's Edmond Gates in the fourth round, GIVING THE CLUB THE BIG-PLAY THREAT IT HAS BEEN LACKING SINCE TRADING AWAY TED GINN JR.

This moron is clueless. Ted Ginn Jr big-play threat? hahahahahahahahaha.......Where do these nitwits come from? This guy actually got paid to write this nonsense. No wonder media in America is going bankrupt.

want to see something really good, take a look at this. U2 performing at the 2002 Super Bowl.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq08ouOwiqQ

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This is what the Dolphins are missing. They didn't even get a late rouder to groom for next year when this Managment team is fired.

AS LONG AS SPARANO AND THAT IDIOT OF A GM IRELAND ARE THERE MIAMI WILL NOT WIN! TALK ABOUT A LAUGH! THEY DON'T DRAFT RYAN MALLET BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE CHARACTER ISSUES AND THEN DRAFT THE KID FROM THE U OF M WHO WAS CHARGED WITH MURDER! THATS SO FUNNY WHAT A BUNCH NO BALL SOB THESE FOOLS ARE AND THEN LET MALLET GO TO A DIV. RIVAL STUPID PERIOD THEY COULD HAVE BROUGHT HIM IN AND DEVELOPED HIM AND IF THEY DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY SEEN TRADED HIM. THEY NEED A QB SO THEY DON'T DRAFT ONE! IDIOTS THEY NEED PLAY MAKERS SO THEY LET MARK INGRAM AND RANDALL COBB GO ALSO! LIKE THE GUY FROM ABILINE THOUGH THEN THEY COULD OF DRAFTED THE KID FROM TENN. WR DANARIOUS HES COULD MAKES PLAYS ALSO PASSED ON TIWAIN JONES! THEY COULD HAVE DRAFTED MALLET AND COBB OR INGRAM AND PICKED UP TIWAIN JONES SO YOU TELL ME HOW SMART THESE GUYS ARE! THEY PICK A KID TO PLAY CENTER WHO IS A NATURAL GUARD WHO HAS PROBLEMS WITH HIKING THE BALL, WE NEEDED OFFENSIVE PLAYERS PERIOD THEY SELL TICKETS CENTERS AND GUARDS DONT SCORE POINTS PERIOD! THEY PASSED ON KAEPERNICK AND COULD HAVE DEVELOPED THEY QB FROM DELAWARE DELVIN AND PASSED ON HIM ALSO! WE NEED A SAFETY AND A GOOD CORNER WHATS UP WITH THAT ! WE HAVE DT AND DE AND LB OUR DEFENSE IS SOLID SO WTF ARE THESE IDIOTS DOING! GREG YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING WITH THIS POLL YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE A IDIOT TO BE HAPPY WITH THIS DRAFT PERIOD! AND HEY I AM FROM MONTANA AND THE KID FROM THE U OF M NOT A FAN OF BUT YOU DONT DRAFT MALLET BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE CHARACTER ISSUES THEN DRAFT HIM RIDICULOUS! ALL I AM GONNA SAY THAT STUPID IRELAND AND FIST PUMPER SEALED THERE FATE THIS WEEKEND FOR SURE GOOD BYE AND AND I HOPE YOU ARE BOTH GONE BY MID SEASON NEXT YEAR! THERE BOTH TO DUMB TO READ THE BLOGS SO THEY KNOW HOW THE FANS FEEL!

I DIDN'T PROOF READ THIS BUT AM SO MAD ABOUT THE DRAFT CANT WRITE ANYWAY! THE FANS NEED TO LET THE MANAGEMENT KNOW THAT THIS DRAFT SUCKED AGAIN THEY ARE PASSING ON GOOD PLAYER THAT WE NEEDED AGAIN!

Stop shouting CLAYO. We hear you.

This draft was pretty good. This Phins team doesn't have to many holes at all. There is good depth at every position except QB. I will give Chad the benefit of the doubt and see what progress is made with these new additions.

They didn't draft mallet because ireland said he didn't fit the team, not for his character issues.

This CLAYO guy knows nothing.

BIG PLAY THREAT! TED GINN JR.? I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU. HE MADE 2 MORE BIG PLAYS THAN I DID IN HIS 3 YEARS WITH THE DOLPHINS. HE WAS AS USEFUL AS TITS ON A NUN. I CAN'T STAND PEOPLE WHO DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE. THIS DRAFT CLASS IS AVERAGE AT BEST. IRELAND, SPARANO AND HENNE SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR STEALING. EVERYTIME THEY CASH A CHECK THEY ARE ROBBING THE DOLPHIN FANS OF HOPE, FAITH AND THE BELIEF THAT THIS YEAR IS GOING TO SOMEHOW BE DIFFERENT. WE'RE TOLD OVER AND OVER THAT THE FOOTBALL MINDS KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING THAN THE FANS. THAT'S WHAT THEY GET PAID TO DO. NOT THESE FOOTBALL MINDS. YOU CAN THROW THE UNTOUCHABLE BILL PARCELLS IN THE MIX TOO. HIS DRAFTS WERE MEDIOCRE AS WELL AND HE GOT THE HELL OUT OF TOWN BEFORE HIS LEGACY TOOK A BIGGER HIT THAN ANY OF HIS DEFENSIVE PICKS EVER DELIVERED. THE FANS SCREAM FOR POSITION PICKS THAT ARE AN OBVIOUS NEED, AND WE'RE TOLD TO WAIT, THAT THEY'RE COMING. WELL TO QUOTE JUDGE SMAILS IN CADDYSHACK, "WE'RE WAITNG!!"

Wow, as I stated before, most of you brain surgeons really have NO clue .

This is a good solid draft, it took care of the GLARING need we had in the interior of the OL,we got the third best back of the draft (according to Mayock ) and we got a steal in the fourth RD ( also according to Mayock )

the rest of the draft, only time will tell, as far as the QB is concern, I have always maintain, Henne needs to have players , last year he had no help, this draft came a long way to fix that.

say what you want about Ireland, HE IS a good young GM and time WILL prove it.

Whoever says that not one player will make an impact on the field next year knows ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about football. Pouncey will be the staring center of guard 2 areas of need. His problems with snapping were early in the season, and were fixed by mid-season. He was the best interior lineman of the draft. Thomas gained 1500 yards last season with KSU, he was drafted just where he was projected to be drafted. He will compete for a starting role with this team. Gates was projected as a number 2 or 3 draft choice. He is not another Ted Ginn. He put up much better numbers than Ginn, and is a better overall receiver than Ginn. He'll also help with the return game. Clay will be productive as an H back some the Phins sorely needed. This isn't a bad draft. If you didn't know the name, it just means you don't know football as well as you thought. Take a look at the national media and their grades of the Phin's draft.

Good solid draft my ass. This is the typical take no risk Dolphin draft that will leave us exactly where we have been for the past 20 years....NOWHERE!

And Cote stop deleting posts.

GRADE S FOR SHITE

Pouncey- Safe and predictable over-reach! When push comes to shove impossible to even see what centers do. Could have traded down to third round for Mallett.

Thomas- doubtful! Gave up way too many late round picks for a super-slow fumbling machine. Could have had Ingram before NO snapped him up.

Edmond?- Another Ginn? No thanks! Besides, late round picks usually suck!

Clay- FB to set up field goal tries? We need speed!

Never heard of the other picks but we urgently needed another field goal kicker to spell the one we have now!

BORING BORING BORING BORING BORING

Tom I guess you don't have a clue. Too bad.

My rant:

First pick - don't care about taking Pouncey over Ingram or the Nevada QB (who they said they would've taken if Pouncey was off the board) but I might have preferred Prince Amaukamara and I think it's unforgivable that Jeff Ireland did not try to trade back (he said he waited for calls because he did not want to lose his leverage). He should be fired for that alone, just like Henning should have been fired on the spot for running 6 times and throwing 40 in Thigpen's first start. Blatant and unabashed incompetence.

Second pick - I was hoping they would move up to get a player who fell and they did, so well done there. On first glance I don't like the pick, he runs very tall and doesn't seem to have breakaway speed, but I haven't seen anything except a highlight video so we'll see how he works out. It feels like they drafted for need, and they gave up a lot to do it so he needs to be a starter and a workhorse to be worth the picks.

Third pick - sure, why not? They need a fast receiver, he's all the fast that was left at that point. God it sucks being a Ravens fan when the Ravens and Dolphins have the same needs, it hurts watching Ozzie Newsome dominate the way he does.

Fourth pick - don't know nothing about Chuck Clay but this tells me they don't want to pay Lousaka after next season, which is actually commendable on their part because good teams don't pay top FBs 3-4 mil. a season, even if they are fan favorites.

Fifth pick - meat! Solid rotation DT but he won't allow the Dolphins to let the sleepy Samoan go after this franchise tag year.

Sixth pick - murderer, acquitted because they said it might have been an accident, not because he didn't blow someone's head off - two years in jail but it sounds like it was justified, solid pick, well done.

And a fantastic draft for the University of Miami - 8 players selected and Sam Shields is personally responsible for UM's resurgence with the late round selections. Orlando Franklin must have gotten the biggest surprise of his life being picked so early in the second round and Leonard Hankerson is a steal for the Redskins, hopefully they can retain my favorite canes receiver Sanata Moss to mentor him. Graig Cooper and Damien Berry will be joining the undrafted free agent market whenever that exists - Dolphins would be wise to give both a look.

Never heard of the other picks but we urgently needed another field goal kicker to spell the one we have now! You're joking right a roster spot for a reserve kicker. Real smart. This tells a lot about how much FB you know.

I was unaware that Ireland didn't make any calls to trade down. Is this true? If so, why hasn't the herald just lit him up over this?

Can someone confirm that?

"The phones weren't ringing so we took the pick," Ireland said. "When the phone doesn't ring you kind of lose your leverage if you're calling around. 'Do you want this pick, do you want this pick.' That's not the way I do it. They have to want the pick before you can trade. And the phone wasn't ringing."

FZB don't tease. I want to believe you but I've been hurt so many more times. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncPyNzi4J2s

Maybe if Nino Brown & the Cash Money Brothers took this franchise from Mr. Ross. I think the players would have more adrenalin.

Obviously a C draft to keep us mediocre at 7-9 to 8-8. Worst thing is, NE once again does very well, they barely needed anyone except some defense help and a b/u QB. And they once again set themselves up for next year's draft. Undefeated season is their's for the taking.

Their first challenge comes in week 8 (after their bye week) at the Steelers. Next week home vs the Giants, then away vs the Jets. Eagles are away on in game 11 folloed by Colts in week 12. Then they are home free.

From an ESPN article:

"The two AFC East teams unsettled at quarterback didn't draft one. The Bills and Dolphins avoided that position.

Each of the two AFC East teams with clear-cut quarterback situations drafted another. The Patriots added Mallett, and the Jets took Alabama's Greg McElroy in the seventh round. "

mike1,

when a team has a solid starter at QB, such as the patriots and jets, there is no pressure and they can look for a backup- mcelroy seems a lot better than eric ainge and whoever goes in for NE produces. the bills think ryan fitzpatrick will work and have a couple of veterans behind him. as for the locals, past chad henne there is no one which makes it look like carson palmer or mcnabb or another veteran free agent will be here to possibly put henne on the bench. the dolphins cannot possibly start the season with only henne and that guy from the chiefs who could do nothing when given the chance, albeit was a short week for tyler thigpen, against the bears on that thursday night monstrosity of 16-NOTHING!!

F-

Ireland ad Tony better enjoy this season because they should be fired after last year and this draft...Ireland just proved he isn't qualified... Sugar coat it all you want guys..the Patty's took mallet for a reason..after Brady retires mallet will continue their dominant reign unfortunately for us....

NE is being scrutnized for not going for a pass rusher...which is about all they really needed in the first place

ABILENE CHRISTIAN?

sounds like a prep school!! the guy may have blown by the division III competition, but the pros are a different animal; i hope he turns out to be the bargain the "braintrust" thinks he might be, cause #s 19 and 15 are not deep threats and can't stretch the secondary.

shadow, remember a certain good athlete drafted out of Mississippi Valley State? WR Jerry Rice.

Mike1... NE could still find a pass rusher in free agency IF there's a season.

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