How confident are you in Chad Henne? (with poll); plus Nyjer Morgan = idiot, LeBron's new image, Tiger's new lovenest, Jacory/Heisman odds & more
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HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU IN CHAD HENNE?: Like many of you I think so much of this Dolphins season and beyond depends on how good quarterback Chad Henne turns out to be, and like many of you I am not sure how good that will be. I think he'll be a solid starter. But will he be a star? Might he be a disappointment? Neither last season nor this preseason have offered a clear answer. Now, on ESPN.com, Henne is rated only the 25th-best of 32 NFL starters. Ouch. Seems low. (Click here for John Clayton's rankings). Now you tell me. How good will he be and why? Take a dip in our poll. How much faith do you have in Henne right now?
NYJER MORGAN IS ROTTEN AND SHOULD BE THROWN IN A DUMPSTER: The Nationals' Nyjer Morgan started a bench-clearing brawl in the 6th inning of last night's Marlins game when he charged the mound after Chris Volstad threw behind him. Play of the game: Gaby (Batman) Sanchez roaring in and decking Morgan the Joker. Morgan is a dirty, ill-tempered pissant who should be suspended by MLB. How his own teammates stand him is nearly beyond fathomability.
BULLETIN: LEBRON JAMES SOFTENS IMAGE!:His old Tweeter logo was dark, screaming ego, kingly, lordly, I'm-better-than-you-ly. His new one (left) is friendly, light, accessible. It looks like a photo shoot from a GQ pictorial for casual menswear. "See?" says the new logo. "I'm not the bad guy they make me out to be!"
UM FOOTBALL GAME AT YANKEE STADIUM: Hurricanes AD Kirby Hocutt met in New York today with Yankees officials and said he's hopeful Miami will play a nuetral-site football game at Yankee Stadium as soon as 2013 -- ideally vs. Notre Dame. (Now if The U can just get the runnin'-scared Gators to resume that series everything will be copacetic). Also today in New York came the unveiling of the new "Miami Nike Pro Combat" line of football gear (see right). The player modeling the line has an unsettling metallic gray skin tone and should see a doctor imemdiately.
ODDS FOR CANES TITLE, JACORY HEISMAN: Bodog.com puts Miami at 18-1 for the national championship. That trails seven schools including 4-1 frontrunner Alabama. UM is a 5-2 pick for the ACC crown, narrowly over 3-1 Virginia Tech. Heisman odds are 4-1 for Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor, 5-1 for Alabama RB and '09 winner Mark Ingram, 9-1 for Arkansas QB Ryan Mallett, then Canes QB Jacory Harris among a group at 12-1. Ingram missing his opener with an injury levels the field a bit.
TIGER READY FOR SOME BACHELOR LOVIN': The newly divorced Woodsman has moved intro a new Manhattan apartment. Click here for the details. Warning: No nudity.
DANCING WITH THE STARS: Odds are out for upcoming season 11 of the inexlicably popular TV show and the pop/R&B singer Brandy is the favorite at 3-1. Ex-quarterback Kurt Warner is a 20-1 longshot, but would be favored if one of the judges was the Lord.
THE LIST: THREE PLAYOFF TEAMS, ONE DIVISION: It comes to mind this year with the AFC East's Dolphins, Patriots and Jets all fancying themselves playoff contenders. I wondered: Since the NFL realigned into four divisions and two wild cards per conference in 2002, how many times (of a possible 16) has one division produced three playoff teams? Answer: Three:
2006 NFC East (Eagles, Cowboys, Giants)
2007 NFC East (Cowboys, Giants, Redskins)
2007 AFC South (Colts, Jaguars, Titans)
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even tho Thursday night's game is preseason, it is imperative that the Dolphins start looking stronger & consistent.
Canes, Nat'l Champ, Heisman? Don't be your trailer on it Bubba.
Henne? I'm hoping for the best. IF he can improve from last yr and open it up some this team can be special enough to be talking playoffs. The running game & run D are strengths. Passing game has much potential and the right DB combination needs to be found NOW. Will Allen ain't coming back to play at any level till around wk 3 & may NOT be full speed on that re-repaired knee this season.
SEAN SMITH- Man up! You gotta golden opportunity in the NFL, start playing like it. You got Jason Allen & Benny Sapp (most likely this seasons nickle back) wanting your job.
Sparano--John Jerry ain't ready to start, use Donald Thomas & Incognito at guards and teach Jerry correct technique before he allows Henne, Ricky, Ronnie to get hurt on a missed assignment.
in agreement again- fans canes are delusional if they think all three are gonna happen; of the wish list, here is the probability order: acc division title, conference title, heisman and national crown very far removed from my sense of reality. brutal schedule, and a loss at columbus with a good game be pryor and jacorry harris' chances for the statue are history.
henne rating- at this point he is middling. let us see what he can do with a brandon marshall beast to go with hartline and our man #15. be well
The teams listed ahead of UM in odds of winning the national championship:
Bama
Ohio State
Boise
Florida
Texas
Nebraska
TCU
You have to have the ability to beat every team you play to give yourself a chance at the national title game - UM, Alabama, Ohio State, Boise, Nebraska, and TCU all have the opportunity.
It doesn't mean UM will definitely win it, but they're one of the few with a shot, and that's all you can ask for as a fan. I'd be hard pressed to call their schedule "brutal" when they're going to be favored in every game save one and they play FSU, UNC, and V Tech at home.
And I wish I could wage a bet on whether Chad Henne becomes a franchise quarterback (for any franchise) and whether the Dolphins can win 7 games with a defense that can't rush the passer and is trying to stop the run with confused linebackers, an undersized nose tackle, and a rookie DE who has yet to record a sack, qb hit, qb pressure, or tackle.
Not a Jets fan in the least but my #1 team is the Ravens, Dolphins come in second - I'm a season ticket holder for both.
And it's not that I hope Henne fails or that the Dolphins don't sneak into the playoffs this year - it's just that I don't think their defense is close to good enough and I think Henne is a perpetrator who's just good enough to drag out his starting spot on "potential" a la a Kyle Boller or the aforementioned Scott Mitchell.
"henne is very good"- your quote. if he is very good, what term would you use to describe p. manning, brady, rivers, rodgers, and favre? is henne better than matt schaub or matt hasselback or eli manning- NO, and they are at best DECENT Qbs. i don't think that henne is better than pennington even though #10 can throw the ball thirty yards at most; henne throws passes straight over his receivers' heads, making for very difficult catches, plus henne throws a flutterball a lot.
we'l see how he does with a little easier schedule than last year's, which was brutal. the dolphins lost a bunch of games they culd have won- even against the colts and saints- and should have made it to the playoffs instead of the accursed jets.
pete carroll has resurrected mike williams in seattle; he could have better numbers than brandon marshall as he will get a lot more throws in the seahawks' offense, which is not as run0oriented as the dolphins. he was unreal at USC, and the catch he made against oregon state, where he caught the BACK OF THE BALL WITH ONE HAND ranks with the grat grabs i have ever seen. we like comebacks and feel good stories and i hope his continues.
But whose gonna resurrect Pete Carroll. He stunk as a pro coach and lets not forget he gave Fins the old dreaded choke sign when he was with the hated Jets. Fortunately God humiliated him & the puppy molestings J-E-T-S by making them lose... I hate Pete Carroll. I hope he winds up sucking a** in NFL. WTF it's not like he'll starve unless he has managed his money more poorly than Tiger Woods.
Christ Kazaam I thought you were suggesting Nike special edition uniforms were what Dolphins planned to parade around in this year. However, they too should go old school back to '74 Dolphins navy blue SB VIII uniform. That was a beautiful uniform. White is only nice when its dirty, muddy and blood soaked.
henne is not GREAT... but at least GOOD. but 25th?!? pulleez! there's only 7 qb's worse than him. i don't think so. i feel like we're upgrading every year for the last 3 - but I can't remember going in to a season with more question marks than this one. we're HOPING that our "upgrade" pan out. that if they do... it was a brilliant off season. if the brass is nearly as sharp as they've been the past 2 seasons... we're in for a fun ride. but i fear disappointment looming - this from a VERY fan. speaking of which... and not just because I hate them... I really think the Jets are in for MAJOR disappointment. i think Rex has set the bar too high - or better put, too much mouth spouting about it. he's put his team in a must-win scenario. to avoid team wide feeling of doom and failure, they MUST win their first 5 games, and at LEAST 8 our of their first 10 - or it will be considered a complete failure. on the other side of that... I LOVE that NO ONE's talking about the Fins. I actually like Ryan and Hard Knocks is really fun to watch. But you gotta know that you CAN'T be their coach AND their friend at the same time. AND you can't be a head coach AND a goof ball a the same time in the NFL. Either way... it's going to be fun to watch the AFC east this year! I don't think we're Super Bowl Bound for another year or so... but please my beloved Fins... just be IN IT - so WE, the fans, can be in it. LETS GO FINS!
I've said it before here, and I'll say it again. Henne does have a bazooka for an arm. The problem is he does not know how to pull the string on his intermediate and short passes. You can see this preseason he just does not throw a very catchable ball.
Secondly, I see problems with his planting, especially on short drops that lead to him throwing off his back foot which cause him to be wild high. This kid needs a lot of coaching. I do not believe he is confident taking something off the ball, and until he learns to do so his receivers are going to have a tough time.
With as hard as he throws, passes get tipped at the line, and balls bounce off receivers hands. This leads to interceptions. He was lucky last year he didn't throw more then he did. Without improvement I suspect his INT % will be just as high or higher this year.
I may have left you with the impression I don't like Henne, I really do. I just think at this point he is a unfinished work in progress. Hopefully he'll overcome some of his bad habits and become a very capable starter. He has the God given talent to do so.
i can't remember the dolphins in navy blue in their victory against the vikings; the NFL collection has them in that aqaumarine/turquoise color the dolphins had in those days; i may be very wrong on this.
I don't think Henne is the problem. I feel that Dan Henning is the problem and that he should have been replaced when they replaced the defensive coordinator.
Clayton's ranking system is misleading - he puts all the starting qbs into 2 categories: elite, solid, and hit-or-miss, and he also gives a percent chance of becoming elite for all the qbs that aren't there yet.
So because Henne is "hit-or-miss", he's ranked below all the "solid" qbs like kyle orton and matt hasselbeck, even though he has a higher chance of becoming "elite".
he does have potential, but gots to go a long way; if henne can't perform better with a monster like brandon marshall, it will be time for a re-appraisal.
As I said, I'm sure Henne will be fine with an excellent offensive line, two great running backs, two good wide receivers, and one all-world wide receiver.
I just think he's going to Scott Mitchell along for a few years and never turn the corner. As the great Tuna says - if they don't bite as puppies, they won't.
Chad Henne is already 21 in dog years, he ain't a puppy anymore.
shadow-
A good observation and reasonable prediction by you (Williams/Marshall). Especially noting the fact that Seattle does have a pass preference. Still, I much rather have our new #19 for his size, run after catch capabilities and manner by which he physically punishes opposing players.
As for Pete, well, I've never been able to get past earlier associations with two of the Dolphins' most hated rivals - Jets & Pats.
I'm holding out a sliver of hope that come the season opener, and/or again on December 12th, that young Mr.Taylor Mays cold-cocks Mr. Carroll - full blasting speed - well into Canada. This, as he runs down the Seattle sideline under the guise of making a play.
Don't get me wrong. I'm okay with SC. Not so much Mr. Carroll.
Kazaam, you're an idiot. Look at Kurt Warner, he didn't become an elite quarterback until he was in his 30s. And Aaron Rogers didn't become elite until 3 years into his career. And for all you guys anointing Mark Sanchez an elite quarterback - Henne had BETTER numbers than him last year!!!
Chad Henne is an elite quarterback, he just needs a few years to mature.
Shadow I know what you're saying but whenever I go back to films of the game it looks to me like the blue tops are navy blue. If it was some type of optical illusion it convinced me navy blue was the way to go!
Henne could wind up a Jay Fiedler just with a stronger arm. I liked Fiedler for his having heart, threading the needle at tines, being willing to sacrifice his slight body frame to help win a game but he suffered what so many journeymen suffer the inexplicable bonehead throw. WTF did he just do you? WTF why would he do that? WTF was he thinking? There wasn't anyone anywhere near the ball except the defender? All momentum shifts. Maybe you get it back and win. Maybe you get it back and still lose. It never feels like your team has the opposition in a firm choke hold because at anytime comes the dreaded bonehead throw, the bonehead play that f***s your team right in the yap. Steve DeBerg much the same way though he had great play action fake but lacked consistency to come through in the clutch.
Yes Mr. Tirico. Jaws and Chucky what a pair of inane bobble heads. You have my sympathy sir. I gotta say Chucky and his highly affected tough guy voice is just about as bad as it gets. What he needs is to be handcuffed to a chair with a gagball jammed in his yap. He can nod yes/no. That's plenty from him.
That sense of fiery leadership is what lacks in Henne. Dean Wormer could describe it perfectly in that Henne scores a "zero-point-zero" in that department. "Strong-armed, tall and boring is no way to go to the Super Bowl, son".
OC, lets hope it was just a guy who happened to resemble in poor light, while we were falling down drunk & without our glasses for our 20/200 vision THE FOUR CONSECUTIVE SB CHAMPION ALL-PRO QB FOR THE ALL-TIME GREATEST TEAM ON PLANET EARTH, THE MIAMI DOLPHINS!!!!
duke-
I'll remain hopeful. Being a life-long Dolphins' fan is all one could do. However, I would much rather have "Taz," the Tasmanian Devil in there, as opposed to "Sleepy."
Actually Bugs would be the cartoon character to have running the offense. Time and time again he's proven winner regardless of the opposition. He's cooler than Joe Cool...
YO Coach Son of Blubber if you've been debating whether or not to take that exotic vacation to Bangkok with a rope, handcuffs and large plastic bag but wonder if you should it being so close to the start of the NFL season and all well I want to help break the tie by encouraging to take some "Me Time." Really go for it sir. You've just had your stomach cut out(though I think you snuck it out of the O.R. trash recepticle to eat later)so be alittle selfish. Life is too short. Have a Mai Tai, handful of Cialis, extra bucket of raw oysters and a really dangerous sexual fetish on me.
Take a look at the following list of Super Bowl quarterbacks and see if you don't agree that there are far more quarterbacks that could be described as charismatic "Fiery Leaders," (FL) versus those most would compare to having a Henne type demeanor (HT). Sort of "Calm and Stoic."
I count 41 fiery types versus just 11 who mimic Henne's style.
Agree or disagree?
Now, that's not to say that Henne could succeed playing the way he plays, just that his style is in the minority. I see Roger Stauback or a David Woodley or even a Drew Bledsoe as role models for himself. Certainly not Favre, Marino, or Bradshaw.
HT - Bart Starr
FL - Len Dawson
FL - Daryle Lamonica
FL - Joe Namath
HT - Earl Morrall
FL - Joe Kapp
FL - Johnny Unitas
HT - Craig Morton
HT - Roger Staubach
HT - Bob Griese
FL - Bill Kilmer
FL - Fran Tarkenton
FL - Terry Bradshaw
FL - Ken Stabler
FL - Vince Ferragamo
FL - Jim Plunkett
FL - Ron Jaworski
FL - Joe Montana
HT - Ken Anderson
FL - Joe Theismann
HT - David Woodley
FL - Dan Marino
FL - Jim McMahon
HT - Tony Eason
FL - Phil Simms
FL - John Elway
FL - Doug Williams
FL - Boomer Esiason
FL - Jeff Hostetler
FL - Jim Kelly
FL - Mark Rypien
FL - Troy Aikman
FL - Steve Young
FL - Stan Humphries
FL - Neil O'Donnell
FL - Brett Favre
HT - Drew Bledsoe
FL - Chris Chandler
FL - Kurt Warner
FL - Steve McNair
FL - Trent Dilfer
HT - Kerry Collins
FL - Tom Brady
HT - Brad Johnson
FL - Rich Gannon
FL - Jake Delhomme
FL - Donovan McNabb
FL - Ben Roethlisberger
FL - Matt Hasselbeck
FL - Peyton Manning
FL - Rex Grossman
FL - Eli Manning
Hey it sucks loving a team that has sucked for so long. Why do we do it? There are enough consistently playoff and SB championship caliber teams to jump on any bandwagon. WTF keeps me glued to this particular f***ing horse and buggy & chronic oil and anti-freeze leaker. Two things. The Joe Thomas built '72-'73 hard nosed physical and highly intelligent team and loyalty. F***ing loyalty. This team & I married till death do us part. They would have to virtually cease to be by going to another city with another team identity than the Dolphins before I said, "That's it I'm a f***ing full-time Giants fan now. Hey remember that game winning drive against the Pats in the SB. UN-F***ING-BELIEVABLE! GIVE ME A HIGH F***ING FIVE AND ANOTHER BREWSKI! F***IN' A RIGHT! THE PATRIOTS heh, heh GIVE ME A F***ING BREAK WIT' DAT S***! Yah know I heard Tom Brady experimented in highschool and while he was at some friggin' summer camp. I mean can you f***in' believe thayt s***...?! I wonder if that's where he met Pretty Boy Mark 'Dirty' Sanchez heh, heh Huh? What do you mean what do I mean? You gotta be yankin' my chain on this one right? "EXPERIMENTED?" "E-X-P-E-R-I-M-E-N-T-E-D?!" Yah get it now what I'm tellin' you? Okay, okay go ask your mother then..."
Micheal Corleone set it up to make it look like Kate did it. Can you f***in' believe that, his own f***king wife, the mother of his own f***ing children for f***sake. I tell you one thing don't you ever piss that f***in' guy off because he will not rest until you're dead, in jail or both.
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even tho Thursday night's game is preseason, it is imperative that the Dolphins start looking stronger & consistent.
Canes, Nat'l Champ, Heisman? Don't be your trailer on it Bubba.
Henne? I'm hoping for the best. IF he can improve from last yr and open it up some this team can be special enough to be talking playoffs. The running game & run D are strengths. Passing game has much potential and the right DB combination needs to be found NOW. Will Allen ain't coming back to play at any level till around wk 3 & may NOT be full speed on that re-repaired knee this season.
SEAN SMITH- Man up! You gotta golden opportunity in the NFL, start playing like it. You got Jason Allen & Benny Sapp (most likely this seasons nickle back) wanting your job.
Sparano--John Jerry ain't ready to start, use Donald Thomas & Incognito at guards and teach Jerry correct technique before he allows Henne, Ricky, Ronnie to get hurt on a missed assignment.
Posted by: Jimbo | September 01, 2010 at 11:41 AM
spell check-- meant - don't bet your trailer...
Posted by: Jimbo | September 01, 2010 at 11:43 AM
I have Zero worries about Henne, young QB's take time to develop...he's got a better supporting cast this time around, he'll be fine.
Posted by: FZB | September 01, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Jimbo,
in agreement again- fans canes are delusional if they think all three are gonna happen; of the wish list, here is the probability order: acc division title, conference title, heisman and national crown very far removed from my sense of reality. brutal schedule, and a loss at columbus with a good game be pryor and jacorry harris' chances for the statue are history.
henne rating- at this point he is middling. let us see what he can do with a brandon marshall beast to go with hartline and our man #15. be well
Posted by: the shadow knows | September 01, 2010 at 11:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q9JOpJ91e8
SUPERFLY
Posted by: green | September 01, 2010 at 12:35 PM
The teams listed ahead of UM in odds of winning the national championship:
Bama
Ohio State
Boise
Florida
Texas
Nebraska
TCU
You have to have the ability to beat every team you play to give yourself a chance at the national title game - UM, Alabama, Ohio State, Boise, Nebraska, and TCU all have the opportunity.
It doesn't mean UM will definitely win it, but they're one of the few with a shot, and that's all you can ask for as a fan. I'd be hard pressed to call their schedule "brutal" when they're going to be favored in every game save one and they play FSU, UNC, and V Tech at home.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 01, 2010 at 12:39 PM
Henne 25th? Seriously? I don't believe it.
Posted by: Big Baby | September 01, 2010 at 12:40 PM
http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/view.gal?id=75625
DANDY
Posted by: green | September 01, 2010 at 12:59 PM
Kazaam, wish I could wage a bet. Expect UM to contend & end the season with no less then 2 losses going to a bowl game.
Posted by: Jimbo | September 01, 2010 at 01:21 PM
And I wish I could wage a bet on whether Chad Henne becomes a franchise quarterback (for any franchise) and whether the Dolphins can win 7 games with a defense that can't rush the passer and is trying to stop the run with confused linebackers, an undersized nose tackle, and a rookie DE who has yet to record a sack, qb hit, qb pressure, or tackle.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 01, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Henne is very good. Marshall's going to make him great.
Posted by: Piddly B | September 01, 2010 at 04:20 PM
These Nike special edition uniforms keep getting worse and worse (besides this year's green helmet, which is kind of badass).
If they want to sell jerseys, take it old school and cut off right under the number:
http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/classic/2001/0904/photo/s_lewis_i.jpg
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 01, 2010 at 04:54 PM
Henne is a big fat f***ing QUESTION MARK. It won't take long to find out unless he's Scott Mitchell. Then he'll fool you for alittle while...
Posted by: r. duke | September 01, 2010 at 06:02 PM
Hey, duke:
Is a henne anything remotely like a rooster??
Posted by: Moe Howard | September 01, 2010 at 06:06 PM
R U A Jets fan Kazaam? just wondering
Posted by: Jimbo | September 01, 2010 at 06:25 PM
Another LaBron plug huh Cote?
Told you, gotta quit meat gazing in the locker room Greg.
Posted by: Jimbo | September 01, 2010 at 06:30 PM
Not a Jets fan in the least but my #1 team is the Ravens, Dolphins come in second - I'm a season ticket holder for both.
And it's not that I hope Henne fails or that the Dolphins don't sneak into the playoffs this year - it's just that I don't think their defense is close to good enough and I think Henne is a perpetrator who's just good enough to drag out his starting spot on "potential" a la a Kyle Boller or the aforementioned Scott Mitchell.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 01, 2010 at 06:46 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/21/1786663/once-derided-um-basks-in-now-lofty.html
our lifelong obsession resumes in earnest ...
UM football ...
a South Florida tradition since 1926 ...
85th SEASON
Posted by: green | September 01, 2010 at 07:41 PM
Pidddly B.,
"henne is very good"- your quote. if he is very good, what term would you use to describe p. manning, brady, rivers, rodgers, and favre? is henne better than matt schaub or matt hasselback or eli manning- NO, and they are at best DECENT Qbs. i don't think that henne is better than pennington even though #10 can throw the ball thirty yards at most; henne throws passes straight over his receivers' heads, making for very difficult catches, plus henne throws a flutterball a lot.
we'l see how he does with a little easier schedule than last year's, which was brutal. the dolphins lost a bunch of games they culd have won- even against the colts and saints- and should have made it to the playoffs instead of the accursed jets.
Posted by: the shadow knows | September 01, 2010 at 09:14 PM
Coach Golic's breath smells like S***! I was going to say garlic but S*** amused me more.
Posted by: r. duke | September 01, 2010 at 09:14 PM
Hey Moe that was funny about henne but Larry didn't get it so lets go rip his hair out NYUK, NYUK, NYUK...
Posted by: r. duke | September 01, 2010 at 09:21 PM
OC Dolphin,
pete carroll has resurrected mike williams in seattle; he could have better numbers than brandon marshall as he will get a lot more throws in the seahawks' offense, which is not as run0oriented as the dolphins. he was unreal at USC, and the catch he made against oregon state, where he caught the BACK OF THE BALL WITH ONE HAND ranks with the grat grabs i have ever seen. we like comebacks and feel good stories and i hope his continues.
Posted by: the shadow knows | September 01, 2010 at 09:32 PM
But whose gonna resurrect Pete Carroll. He stunk as a pro coach and lets not forget he gave Fins the old dreaded choke sign when he was with the hated Jets. Fortunately God humiliated him & the puppy molestings J-E-T-S by making them lose... I hate Pete Carroll. I hope he winds up sucking a** in NFL. WTF it's not like he'll starve unless he has managed his money more poorly than Tiger Woods.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 12:23 AM
Christ Kazaam I thought you were suggesting Nike special edition uniforms were what Dolphins planned to parade around in this year. However, they too should go old school back to '74 Dolphins navy blue SB VIII uniform. That was a beautiful uniform. White is only nice when its dirty, muddy and blood soaked.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 12:31 AM
henne is not GREAT... but at least GOOD. but 25th?!? pulleez! there's only 7 qb's worse than him. i don't think so. i feel like we're upgrading every year for the last 3 - but I can't remember going in to a season with more question marks than this one. we're HOPING that our "upgrade" pan out. that if they do... it was a brilliant off season. if the brass is nearly as sharp as they've been the past 2 seasons... we're in for a fun ride. but i fear disappointment looming - this from a VERY fan. speaking of which... and not just because I hate them... I really think the Jets are in for MAJOR disappointment. i think Rex has set the bar too high - or better put, too much mouth spouting about it. he's put his team in a must-win scenario. to avoid team wide feeling of doom and failure, they MUST win their first 5 games, and at LEAST 8 our of their first 10 - or it will be considered a complete failure. on the other side of that... I LOVE that NO ONE's talking about the Fins. I actually like Ryan and Hard Knocks is really fun to watch. But you gotta know that you CAN'T be their coach AND their friend at the same time. AND you can't be a head coach AND a goof ball a the same time in the NFL. Either way... it's going to be fun to watch the AFC east this year! I don't think we're Super Bowl Bound for another year or so... but please my beloved Fins... just be IN IT - so WE, the fans, can be in it. LETS GO FINS!
Posted by: mike | September 02, 2010 at 01:06 AM
correction... "this from a VERY OPTIMISTIC fan"...
Posted by: mike | September 02, 2010 at 01:08 AM
I've said it before here, and I'll say it again. Henne does have a bazooka for an arm. The problem is he does not know how to pull the string on his intermediate and short passes. You can see this preseason he just does not throw a very catchable ball.
Secondly, I see problems with his planting, especially on short drops that lead to him throwing off his back foot which cause him to be wild high. This kid needs a lot of coaching. I do not believe he is confident taking something off the ball, and until he learns to do so his receivers are going to have a tough time.
With as hard as he throws, passes get tipped at the line, and balls bounce off receivers hands. This leads to interceptions. He was lucky last year he didn't throw more then he did. Without improvement I suspect his INT % will be just as high or higher this year.
Posted by: Mike | September 02, 2010 at 01:49 AM
I may have left you with the impression I don't like Henne, I really do. I just think at this point he is a unfinished work in progress. Hopefully he'll overcome some of his bad habits and become a very capable starter. He has the God given talent to do so.
Posted by: Mike | September 02, 2010 at 01:55 AM
r. duke,
i can't remember the dolphins in navy blue in their victory against the vikings; the NFL collection has them in that aqaumarine/turquoise color the dolphins had in those days; i may be very wrong on this.
Posted by: the shadow knows | September 02, 2010 at 06:03 AM
I don't think Henne is the problem. I feel that Dan Henning is the problem and that he should have been replaced when they replaced the defensive coordinator.
Posted by: miklwis | September 02, 2010 at 06:03 AM
Clayton's ranking system is misleading - he puts all the starting qbs into 2 categories: elite, solid, and hit-or-miss, and he also gives a percent chance of becoming elite for all the qbs that aren't there yet.
So because Henne is "hit-or-miss", he's ranked below all the "solid" qbs like kyle orton and matt hasselbeck, even though he has a higher chance of becoming "elite".
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 02, 2010 at 10:41 AM
But he still sucks.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 02, 2010 at 10:41 AM
Kazaam,
he does have potential, but gots to go a long way; if henne can't perform better with a monster like brandon marshall, it will be time for a re-appraisal.
Posted by: the shadow knows | September 02, 2010 at 11:43 AM
As I said, I'm sure Henne will be fine with an excellent offensive line, two great running backs, two good wide receivers, and one all-world wide receiver.
I just think he's going to Scott Mitchell along for a few years and never turn the corner. As the great Tuna says - if they don't bite as puppies, they won't.
Chad Henne is already 21 in dog years, he ain't a puppy anymore.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 02, 2010 at 11:55 AM
shadow-
A good observation and reasonable prediction by you (Williams/Marshall). Especially noting the fact that Seattle does have a pass preference. Still, I much rather have our new #19 for his size, run after catch capabilities and manner by which he physically punishes opposing players.
As for Pete, well, I've never been able to get past earlier associations with two of the Dolphins' most hated rivals - Jets & Pats.
I'm holding out a sliver of hope that come the season opener, and/or again on December 12th, that young Mr.Taylor Mays cold-cocks Mr. Carroll - full blasting speed - well into Canada. This, as he runs down the Seattle sideline under the guise of making a play.
Don't get me wrong. I'm okay with SC. Not so much Mr. Carroll.
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 12:52 PM
Kazaam, you're an idiot. Look at Kurt Warner, he didn't become an elite quarterback until he was in his 30s. And Aaron Rogers didn't become elite until 3 years into his career. And for all you guys anointing Mark Sanchez an elite quarterback - Henne had BETTER numbers than him last year!!!
Chad Henne is an elite quarterback, he just needs a few years to mature.
Posted by: Finatical Fire | September 02, 2010 at 01:44 PM
Oh, my mistake then.
Posted by: I am Kazaam | September 02, 2010 at 02:42 PM
Shadow I know what you're saying but whenever I go back to films of the game it looks to me like the blue tops are navy blue. If it was some type of optical illusion it convinced me navy blue was the way to go!
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 02:52 PM
Henne could wind up a Jay Fiedler just with a stronger arm. I liked Fiedler for his having heart, threading the needle at tines, being willing to sacrifice his slight body frame to help win a game but he suffered what so many journeymen suffer the inexplicable bonehead throw. WTF did he just do you? WTF why would he do that? WTF was he thinking? There wasn't anyone anywhere near the ball except the defender? All momentum shifts. Maybe you get it back and win. Maybe you get it back and still lose. It never feels like your team has the opposition in a firm choke hold because at anytime comes the dreaded bonehead throw, the bonehead play that f***s your team right in the yap. Steve DeBerg much the same way though he had great play action fake but lacked consistency to come through in the clutch.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 03:03 PM
meant WTF did he just do, you ask bewildered.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 03:05 PM
The Dolphins need Nyjer Morgan to fire them up a little. He could make sure Henne doesn't screw up by showing a little "attitude".
Also, I'm really great on MNF. Have you seen me? Hard to get a word in though with jaws and chuckie running their kazoos...
Posted by: M Tirico | September 02, 2010 at 03:09 PM
Yes Mr. Tirico. Jaws and Chucky what a pair of inane bobble heads. You have my sympathy sir. I gotta say Chucky and his highly affected tough guy voice is just about as bad as it gets. What he needs is to be handcuffed to a chair with a gagball jammed in his yap. He can nod yes/no. That's plenty from him.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 03:37 PM
Common image of Chad Henne walking back to the huddle:
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/520086-sleepy_large.jpg
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 04:22 PM
That sense of fiery leadership is what lacks in Henne. Dean Wormer could describe it perfectly in that Henne scores a "zero-point-zero" in that department. "Strong-armed, tall and boring is no way to go to the Super Bowl, son".
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 04:33 PM
OC, lets hope it was just a guy who happened to resemble in poor light, while we were falling down drunk & without our glasses for our 20/200 vision THE FOUR CONSECUTIVE SB CHAMPION ALL-PRO QB FOR THE ALL-TIME GREATEST TEAM ON PLANET EARTH, THE MIAMI DOLPHINS!!!!
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 04:34 PM
duke-
I'll remain hopeful. Being a life-long Dolphins' fan is all one could do. However, I would much rather have "Taz," the Tasmanian Devil in there, as opposed to "Sleepy."
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 04:45 PM
Actually Bugs would be the cartoon character to have running the offense. Time and time again he's proven winner regardless of the opposition. He's cooler than Joe Cool...
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 04:50 PM
I'm cool with that. He could face Yosemite Sam every week and they could go undefeated.
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 04:53 PM
And watching Yosemite Sam get pissed weekly would be like watching Coach Fat Bastard lose his mind and his belief in himself weekly heh heh heh
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 05:29 PM
YO Coach Son of Blubber if you've been debating whether or not to take that exotic vacation to Bangkok with a rope, handcuffs and large plastic bag but wonder if you should it being so close to the start of the NFL season and all well I want to help break the tie by encouraging to take some "Me Time." Really go for it sir. You've just had your stomach cut out(though I think you snuck it out of the O.R. trash recepticle to eat later)so be alittle selfish. Life is too short. Have a Mai Tai, handful of Cialis, extra bucket of raw oysters and a really dangerous sexual fetish on me.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 05:44 PM
Take a look at the following list of Super Bowl quarterbacks and see if you don't agree that there are far more quarterbacks that could be described as charismatic "Fiery Leaders," (FL) versus those most would compare to having a Henne type demeanor (HT). Sort of "Calm and Stoic."
I count 41 fiery types versus just 11 who mimic Henne's style.
Agree or disagree?
Now, that's not to say that Henne could succeed playing the way he plays, just that his style is in the minority. I see Roger Stauback or a David Woodley or even a Drew Bledsoe as role models for himself. Certainly not Favre, Marino, or Bradshaw.
HT - Bart Starr
FL - Len Dawson
FL - Daryle Lamonica
FL - Joe Namath
HT - Earl Morrall
FL - Joe Kapp
FL - Johnny Unitas
HT - Craig Morton
HT - Roger Staubach
HT - Bob Griese
FL - Bill Kilmer
FL - Fran Tarkenton
FL - Terry Bradshaw
FL - Ken Stabler
FL - Vince Ferragamo
FL - Jim Plunkett
FL - Ron Jaworski
FL - Joe Montana
HT - Ken Anderson
FL - Joe Theismann
HT - David Woodley
FL - Dan Marino
FL - Jim McMahon
HT - Tony Eason
FL - Phil Simms
FL - John Elway
FL - Doug Williams
FL - Boomer Esiason
FL - Jeff Hostetler
FL - Jim Kelly
FL - Mark Rypien
FL - Troy Aikman
FL - Steve Young
FL - Stan Humphries
FL - Neil O'Donnell
FL - Brett Favre
HT - Drew Bledsoe
FL - Chris Chandler
FL - Kurt Warner
FL - Steve McNair
FL - Trent Dilfer
HT - Kerry Collins
FL - Tom Brady
HT - Brad Johnson
FL - Rich Gannon
FL - Jake Delhomme
FL - Donovan McNabb
FL - Ben Roethlisberger
FL - Matt Hasselbeck
FL - Peyton Manning
FL - Rex Grossman
FL - Eli Manning
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 06:01 PM
What did braintrust really like about Henne other than arm strength OC?
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 07:30 PM
The fact that both Roth and Henne are Michigan guys. This may be one reason Roth suggests that Henne will become the best QB in Miami history. HA!
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 07:50 PM
Hey it sucks loving a team that has sucked for so long. Why do we do it? There are enough consistently playoff and SB championship caliber teams to jump on any bandwagon. WTF keeps me glued to this particular f***ing horse and buggy & chronic oil and anti-freeze leaker. Two things. The Joe Thomas built '72-'73 hard nosed physical and highly intelligent team and loyalty. F***ing loyalty. This team & I married till death do us part. They would have to virtually cease to be by going to another city with another team identity than the Dolphins before I said, "That's it I'm a f***ing full-time Giants fan now. Hey remember that game winning drive against the Pats in the SB. UN-F***ING-BELIEVABLE! GIVE ME A HIGH F***ING FIVE AND ANOTHER BREWSKI! F***IN' A RIGHT! THE PATRIOTS heh, heh GIVE ME A F***ING BREAK WIT' DAT S***! Yah know I heard Tom Brady experimented in highschool and while he was at some friggin' summer camp. I mean can you f***in' believe thayt s***...?! I wonder if that's where he met Pretty Boy Mark 'Dirty' Sanchez heh, heh Huh? What do you mean what do I mean? You gotta be yankin' my chain on this one right? "EXPERIMENTED?" "E-X-P-E-R-I-M-E-N-T-E-D?!" Yah get it now what I'm tellin' you? Okay, okay go ask your mother then..."
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 08:06 PM
Hyman Roth? Royh's dead OC. Shot after he got off the plane in Miami. Shame as he was tagged to be part owner. Now he's just tagged & bagged.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 08:32 PM
Micheal Corleone set it up to make it look like Kate did it. Can you f***in' believe that, his own f***king wife, the mother of his own f***ing children for f***sake. I tell you one thing don't you ever piss that f***in' guy off because he will not rest until you're dead, in jail or both.
Posted by: r. duke | September 02, 2010 at 08:37 PM
Meant Ross. Although Roth did manage to have his cake and eat it too.
btw, let's hope that the regular season sees Henne at something better than 50%.
Posted by: OC Dolphin | September 02, 2010 at 11:35 PM