The chorus for Beck grows louder

     [Updated Monday with the news that Cleo Lemon, not John Beck, would start this week's game vs. Buffalo. Story here. Mind-boggling...]

     Buddy Dan Le Batard added his impressive voice Sunday to the chorus advocating common sense and pushing the Dolphins to start, and so we bumped back up our post on the subject from early last week.

     Here is what ran originally under the headline, 'Huizenga should step in and demand Beck':

     Enough is enough. Cam Cameron seems stuck in indecision on what to do at quarterback. So Wayne Huizenga -- though loathe to play the heavy-handed owner -- should step in during this bye week and force the issue. There is zero reason, at 0-8, to stick with journeyman Cleo Lemon. There is every reason to find out this season whether Beck is the man to lead this franchise into the future.

     If Cam can't make the right decision, somebody else needs to make it for him.

     I wrote this several weeks ago when Trent Green was first hurt. Then loved what Jimmy Johnson said more recently in favor of deploying Beck, noting he is 26 and saying with tongue in cheek, "I hope they play him before he retires."

     As the beer company T-shirt says: Life Beckons.

     Now!

Comments

[Run Jesse Run]

Cam squared isn't holding out Beck because he thinks Cleo gives him a chance to win; he doesn't want to throw Beck to the wolves before he's ready. He did that previously when he was in Washington and the QB there never recovered. I'm sure he's explained himself to Huizenga, who still has faith in Cam's ability to make the right decision for the franchise. No way Huizenga steps in. That being said, the Bills are the easiest team left on the schedule (twice) so don't be surprised if Beck starts after the bye.

[Tom]

`What are you talknig about Cote? He should fire the idiot immediately.

[Alex]

for all we know, Cam will make a change at QB......and name Marty Booker QB!!!!!!

[DolfanTom]

I still have faith in Cam to get this team turned around .... but that faith is gone if Beck isn't under center in two weeks! This is such an obvious move, if he doesn't make it, his logic has to be questioned! I hope H.Wayne does say something - subtle, yes - but something!

[Fish in 2010]

What is the point in holding Beck out because of what happened to Heath Shuler. Shuler could not have made it in the NFL if he held a clipboard for his first five years. He just did not have the talent necessary. Isn't that what we need to find out about Beck. Play him NOW.

[Tom]

Shuler's problem is that he's an idiot. Somewhat akin to Cam. He had one of the lowest intelligence scores for a QB in the history of the combine. Now he's a US Congressman from North Carolina. Sure speaks volumes about what it takes to be a leader in this country -- not much!

[AlA]

if cam doesn't play beck then he needs to get the f**k out of town

[Iz]

How you guys need to chill. Have they even had a practice yet since they came back from london?

[Fisheye]

Have some patience and let the man coach his team. He finally shaped an effective O-line, and the Dolphins have a working running game. Next step is solidifying the defense. QB at this point is irrelevant. That'll be the next to last piece of the puzzle. Beck should see some action, but towards the end of the season.

[Rick D]

The problem is, if Beck doesn't come in and look like Marino in his first game, the whole city of Miami will be screaming "BUST! BUST!" just like they did when Ted Ginn didn't have a TD on a punt return his first game.
Cam isn't perfect, but he's a much better judge of whether Beck is ready, than anybody on this board.
And even if Beck does play, 8 games is not enough to judge him on -- look at Peyton Manning's first 8 games, and judge him...

[Tom]

I've heard this nonsense all season long that Cam is a better judge than all of us at this or that. Bullshit. This guy is absolutely clueless. No one in their right mind picks a punt returner with the 9th overall pick. We are now the worst team in the league and he is still acting as if winning this year matters. My goodness when will all of you wake up to the fact that Cam is a loser. 18-45 lifetime as a head coach did not come by accident. He earned every one of those losses with a level of incompetence that has rarely been challenged in the history of football.

If Wayne H has any sense at all he'll dump this clown as fast as possible.

[Rick D]

Tom - I feel your frustration. But you're making my point for me, running Cam out of town after 1/2 a season. Wannstadt was 11-5 his first season in Miami, does that make him a good head coach?
Loser as a head coach or not, Cam knows how to coach up a QB better than you. He'll play Beck when he's ready.
And I would rather NOT start all over again, with another new frickin coach right now! Lets try stability for a change.
PS. Please dont run Beck out of town after he throws a couple INTs in his first game.

[hey there, how's your steak?]

Staightfowardly, I mean, let's get real Greg: Who gives a flying f what the heck Cam does or what the heck Wayne says? They're both an Aunt Sally, and, it's not a shame because, when you have an inferior head coach along with with an owner who is unschooled in football ownership (even after all these years), HOW COULD ANYONE ACTUALLY GIVE A CARE? 0-8 and they won't play the youngsters? Yunno, technically they are 0-11 if you include the three losses they ended last season with. They prance around in their aqua unis and their high heels and talk smack (Joey) when, not only are they getting beat, but they're getting embarrassed and laughed at. Hey guy, THEY LOST TO THE EFFIN JETS, don't forget, and, everybody thinks they have a chance to beat the Bills? That's not gonna be a cakewalk, pal. I'm done going off on the Phins' patheticalness; I just sit back and join in on the laughter, yeah, the joke that is: The Miami Dolphins ...

[unhappy dolfan]

brady quinn brady quinn brady quinn

[DP Naples]

It amazes me that so many people posting in blogs are so irate about what is going on with the team. I think that everyone should calm down and let this thing work itself out. Many of you are acting like it needs to get fixed now. Forget that notion, it is going take a long time to fix this. Carrying this kind of anger isn't doing anyone any good, especially yourselves. Cameron is a good man, the best the team has had in a very long time. If they can have some good drafts that stick, the defense will get better. There are far greater problems there than on offense. Beck will get his chance to play this year, there is no way he doesn't. It is impossible for him to not get some playing time this year. You will know what you need to know about him soon enough. Granted, I would play him now, but Cameron is making that call, not any of us. All this ranting isn't going to get him in the lineup any sooner. This team is going to look a lot differnt after the next draft. A high pick wil likely get Dorsey out of LSU or some other very strong interior defensive lineman, then the D-backs will follow. Next year is the real year you need to begin evaluating the progress of this team, not this year.

[Jack]

You want a good laugh? Take a look at the FIN'S web site! (1) A countdown clock to the next game against Buffalo. Like someone on death row marking off the days in chalk on the wall. (2) A chance to ask Cam a question. Like, why aren't you a plumber or the guy that fixes your cable? (3) The Two Michelles !! Who are they and why do we care?? (4) A Ted Ginn, Jr. autographed football. Gee, that one will be worth mucho dinero in a couple years. Here's a thought for the web site .... a black wreath with a shroud covering the dead dolphin. Cam in prison clothes; Wayne laughing all the way to the bank.

[DP Naples]

I have another thought for everyone. A few weeks ago, Jason Taylor jumped off sides and negated a third-down stop. The third down was converted on the next play and eventually a TD was scored. In London, JT was called for defensive holding negating an interception by Jason Allen. Why is nobody ranting about JT's play this year, he has been horrible by his standards.

[mal]

to be honest, playing beck in week 10 might not be a great idea because it is somewhat of a lose-lose scenario. if he does well and starts leading miami to victory, the dolphins might forfeit the #1 pick in the draft next year to some team like st louis. but if he doesn't do well, he might lose any confidence in his ability to play at this level and miami's hand might be forced into taking a quarterback next year with the #1 overall when we have a need at almost every position on the roster.

wait until we lose three or four more games, and if beck's ready, and only if he's ready, then play him. four or five games is more than a big enough sample size to see if a guy has what it takes (just look at cleo).

[zulu]

What a bunch of yoyo comments. All of you combined, includeing the sports writers don't know jack compard to what the coach knows. If he is planning on starting Beck, he is just not going to tip his hand on it. Just what we need, fans and sportwriters coaching the team...

[Tom]

The problem is that our leadership SUCKS!!! It's nonexistent. You Cam defenders must have been living in caves for the past 6 months. Those of you who think that all of a sudden Cam is going to start making sense - IT AINT"T GOING TO HAPPEN. He is absolutely clueless. I'm sick of "failing forward fast" and the f****** "Ginn family" and the fact that the "sun is going to come up." Jesus, please forgive me but this guy is making me nuts and I'm about to jump from my 5th floor window. Cam has made one insane decision after another and now it seems as if he is determined that we are never going to have future. There is not a single legitimate excuse for not getting Beck some playing time. Not one. And this crap that Cam has a plan, that's the biggest crock of shit floating around here since saying AJ Feeley was worth a 2nd round pick. I do hope I'm wrong because the last thing we need is another wasted 2nd round draft pick, but I am really starting to believe that Cam doesn't want to unmask the fact that he can pick QB talent either.

WAYNE I'm screaming my ass off at you right now (and it's a big old ass) --

FIRE CAM BEFORE HE DESTROYS WHAT'S LEFT OF YOUR FRANCHISE!!!!!

[Truth Detector]

All these new bloggers on the site supporting Cam. Hmm? Could Cam and friends be in the house?

[SJ Bobkins]

Easy guys, you can't lose enough games to no longer be considered for the next head coach opening. Cam is of the Norv Turner caliber, both will go on coaching for however long they wish, no mater what the level of success. Cam didn't do much to ingrain himself with the comments on draft day about Ginn Junior, maybe he can't think and speak at the same time. But what he was right on was in not picking Brady who still seems to have a bigger fan base in Miami than he does in Cleveland. Cam knows Brady, Cam didn't want Brady, and I think the guy knows QB's What has to happen before the boo-birds shut the hell up about not drafting the guy in the first? Did anyone watch his bowl performance or check out how he did under pressure or in important games. Beck was the whole show, and blasted top 3 rated Oregon 38-8. This season's Oregon team is the same group of guys that Beck destroyed. I don't want to hear the whiners come out, if and when Beck tosses an int. He has to learn, he will be very good, if not great, and have a better career than Brady. That's career, not one game.

[mal]

there is a lot of exuberance regarding this topic it seems, but i challenge anyone to read the entire following argument and provide a coherent and logical argument for starting beck in week 10.

the reasoning is this -- implicit in the call for beck is the assumption that we fully know what miami has in cleo lemon after four professional starts. rationality dictates that there is nothing special about lemon, so this should be a general rule for evaluating quarterbacks (and i think it is, four games is more than enough time to prove yourself). then, it also stands to reason that we will know if beck has the goods by letting him play the same time frame.

letting beck play any more than the time frame of which it is necessary to evaluate him is just stupid. clearly, we cannot win with cleo, and if beck performs better than cleo, he will obviously give us a better chance to win now. but winning now only hurts us as it pushes our draft position further back.

if we do poorly with beck in week 10, it will likely damage his confidence and hurt his prospects to becoming a better pro -- when was the last time you saw a rookie qb who was horrible their rookie year then went on to be good? then, we will need to draft a quarterback with our #1 next year when we have many, many more needs on the team.

you *do* need to evaluate beck so that we know what we have going into next year's draft, but allowing him to play any more than the necessary time frame for evaluating his ability is not only redundant but harmful to miami's best interest. and as i have made clear, if you are calling for beck, you believe we know what we have in cleo after 4 games, and then by that logic we should know what we have in beck after 4 games.

[mal]

there is a lot of exuberance regarding this topic it seems, but i challenge anyone to read the entire following argument and provide a coherent and logical argument for starting beck in week 10.

the reasoning is this -- implicit in the call for beck is the assumption that we fully know what miami has in cleo lemon after four professional starts. rationality dictates that there is nothing special about lemon, so this should be a general rule for evaluating quarterbacks (and i think it is, four games is more than enough time to prove yourself). then, it also stands to reason that we will know if beck has the goods by letting him play the same time frame.

letting beck play any more than the time frame of which it is necessary to evaluate him is just stupid. clearly, we cannot win with cleo, and if beck performs better than cleo, he will obviously give us a better chance to win now. but winning now only hurts us as it pushes our draft position further back.

if we do poorly with beck in week 10, it will likely damage his confidence and hurt his prospects to becoming a better pro -- when was the last time you saw a rookie qb who was horrible their rookie year then went on to be good? then, we will need to draft a quarterback with our #1 next year when we have many, many more needs on the team.

you *do* need to evaluate beck so that we know what we have going into next year's draft, but allowing him to play any more than the necessary time frame for evaluating his ability is not only redundant but harmful to miami's best interest. and as i have made clear, if you are calling for beck, you believe we know what we have in cleo after 4 games, and then by that logic we should know what we have in beck after 4 games.

[Andy D]

LOL Alex, your probably right, I can see it now

"Now listen, Ive done a lot of thinking, and from my experience the best possible QB is a WR! Marty Booker is our new QB!"

The sad part is, this isnt too much of a stretch given some of the wacked out choices cam has made so far...

[bryan in ohio]

fire cam and mueller both are dopes!

[Gophins72]

A couple of points:

1. From everything we've seen so far Ginn appears to be an excellent Returner AND WR. Rookie WR's never make a full and immediate impact on an offense, Randy Moss being the glaring exception years ago. But Ginn has caught everything thrown his way and made better and more aggresive decisions in the return game from game to game. He's also been injury free. Plus, the Dolphins just traded away his competition at WR. So he's part of the solid young core of players that the Dolphins will be putting into this team over the next few seasons. He's a piece of an incomplete puzzle, this is a good thing. He's not a failure or anything close to it, so relax.

2. From everything we saw in the preseason Beck is going to be an excellent QB. Accurate, mobile, intelligent, etc. Cam and the Dolphins used a 2nd round choice on him and chose him over Quinn. This is Cam's guy, Cam wants to play him, wants to shut all of you fans up. So why in god's green earth is everyone so worried about when the Beck era actually begins, next game, 3 games from now, who cares? He's going to play this season and into the future;

3. This is the most important point of all: THE DOLPHINS ARE INTENTIONALLY TANKING THIS SEASON FOR THE FUTURE. This could not be any clearer, the Dolphins need to keep losing this season. They have to have one of the top 3 picks next draft (in each round). This has to happen and is one of the few things the Dolphins can still suceed at this Season.

4. Finally: Say what you want but the outline of the offense that is emerging this season looks very promising, Cam calls a very good game, play selection is excellent and the most important long term aspect of the offense, the offensive line, looks better and better each game (relative to last seasons mess). The talent is what's lacking. So view this season as one where an infrastructure is being put in place for future success by a totally different set of young players. For an example of where this could lead see Jimmy Johnson's 1st year with a horrible Cowboy's team and the development that occured each year thereafter.

[Ray]

The only complaint I have with Cleo Lemmon is that he doesn't have the accuracy and arm strength of John Beck. So no matter how many games he plays his arm is not going to get any better. Ginn was wide open against the Giants and the Cheatriots and Cleo simply could not get him the ball. Cleo has more escapability but who cares about that when you can't get the ball to your wideouts. The only thing Cam is deciding right now is whether or not he wants Beck to start against Buffalo, Philly and the Steelers on Monday Night Football or start against the Jets, Bills, and Ravens at home. I'm really ok with waiting until December to see Beck as long as we get the number one pick in the draft. I certainly don't want to win a handful of games just so we can pick 4th or 5th in the draft. We don't need to "see" anything about John Beck. He has the arm and the accuracy to be great in this league and Cam has the ability to make that happen. We all need to be patient.

[Truth Detector]

WTF, I can't beleive some of the nonsense I'm reading here. If Cam stays, we lose. Period. He's 18-45 lifetime as a head coach. Every time you start thinking he knows what he's doing because he has the job, all I want you to think is 18-45 lifetime and 0-8 lifetime in the NFL. And as Jerry Glanville said, the NFL stands for NOT FOR LONG if you can'w win.

[mike k]

Why can't the coach or owner make a cogent argument like Ray, Mal, Gophins, and others above rather than bumbling their way through this p.r. disaster. Don't say they are not showing their hand for competitive reasons, because that is intuitively dishonest and not in the team's interest regarding draft position--or they really are clueless. Giving them the benefit of the doubt, as we move forward, HAVE ANSWERS!! Be decisive and explain the intended course, or else let the internal investigation "Bobs" from Office Space wipe Cam and Co. out asafp!!

[Joshua]

My problem with waiting on Beck for a few more weeks is then it'll be December, and the teams the Fins play might be playing meaningless games, especially against the Jets, Bills, and Ravens. They'll be out of it, why bring full force? We need to see what Beck can do right now, especially when next year holds the promise of selecting a true franchise QB should Beck fail. Also, I love this hypocrisy of how Beck is the future, but not right now. If he's the future and has shown in practice to be capable, then why not go right now? The OLine seems to be coming along. Chatman can provide a decent component in the running game. The wideouts seem to be there. And for comparison's sake, Trent Edwards is younger and having a good season. And let's not forget that Ben Roethlisberger started his career in a hurricane against these very same Dolphins.

[dolfan abroad]

I suspect Beck will get limited playing time in the upcoming weeks. Like many QBs coming in, he will have to learn the hard way. With the rabid mood of the fan base right now, I sure hope he learns quick. Ted Ginn didnt get much of a grace period.

All in all, the team is getting better. We are still losing, but there are some positive signs. Watching New England violate the Skins puts that loss into perspective. Those guys are out to embarrass everyone who steps onto the field. The Colts better bring their A game.

[OC Dolphin]

SJ Bobkins:

I've been trying to make your very point countless times on this site. Enough with the Quinn talk! Quinn dropped like a led balloon for a reason - He is not that good! Did everyone notice how he held out during contract negotiations? He is a prima donna. He wanted top 5 $$.

I actually wonder what would have happened had Cleveland gone ahead and picked Quinn with their first pick. It would have meant that other teams needing a QB might have picked from the - so called, next tier group of QB's much earlier. It might have placed urgency for Miami to have picked Beck at the 9 spot instead of Ginn. But Quinn's falling afforded more leeway. Miami could get the QB they wanted all along AND pick another area of need.

We can debate ad-nauseam whether that should have been a receiver or someone like DT, Okoye who went to Houston at #10. Still I'm in full agreement with all who see Beck over Quinn.

[Gophins72]

A few more comments in reaction:

1. Bill Belichik was 36-44 as Head Coach of the Clevland Browns from 1991-1995. A horrible record no matter how you slice it up. So under Ray's analysis this man was a loser and always would be and should have never even been considered to Coach the Patriots? Winning is learned in the NFL and it takes time to rebuild any team as decimated as the Dolphins have been by the previous shepards of this team.

2. Cam can't say it any differently, he can't get up there and say "hey, look we're tanking this season, we don't want to win even a few games this season. In fact we've got a really talented young QB on the sidelines who we don't dare risk playing to soon into this season for fear that in his youthful exuburence he might win a few too many games for us this season". So he hems and haws and literally takes one for the team. But actions speak louder than words and that's why average Lemon starts, Chambers leaves town, Green is put to pasture for the rest of the season and Zach Thomas suddenly has "whiplash". At least we're not watching anymore as kick returners line up at the 35 yard line and proceed to watch kick-off sail over their heads while our overly hairy coach impersonates a scared bird, flapping his wings on the sideline.

[Armando]

Depth chart is head coach's responsability, if Cam can not make the right decision then Huizenga should look for another coach but owner must delegate team's responsibilities to the head coach.

[OC Dolphin]

Greg:

Huizenga does not strike me as the kind of guy who mandates, or instructs his underlings on what to do. He could however make his desires very, very clear by issuing a press release announcing that the stadium's concessions will stop selling lemonade and start carrying Beck's beer.

[G-Train]

Huizenga is a moron. Expecting or hoping he will do anything to help the Dolphins is delusional.

[Tom]

Mad fans = no attendance = no moolah.

Dump Cam and get the fans back on your side Wayne. The boohooers who are crying for Cam on this site do not represent your fanbase. You want to see what everyone really thinks about the idiot who coaches your team, go take the coach approval ratings at ESPS:

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/sportsnation/ratings

The current approval rating for our knucklehead coach is 21%. Save the franchise Wayne - send Cam packing before the Buffalo game.

[Tom]

Hey Gophins72

If Cam were "rebuilding" everyone would give him a chance. So let's explore how Cam defines "rebuilding". He rebuilds by spending $20 million on an old and injured LB. He rebuilds by giving away a 4th round draft pick for a 37 year old QB with a history of concussions. He rebuilds by drafting a punt returner with the 9th overall pick in the draft. Do I really need to go on? The point is Cam NEVER pursued this as a rebuilding job and because of that incompetence he has set us back even further.

Fire Cam now!!!

[Colonel Kurtz]

THE HORROR, THE HORROR..

[Andy D]

lol hilarious post OC agreed with all of it!

[tiell]

FIRE CAM - HIRE BILL COWHER!!!!

[Andy D]

Now Tom, watch out with the punt returner stuff. You know ive come around on my boy Ginn, as a rookie WR I see some sparks.. not sold 100%, but he isnt close to a bust yet... that being said, the trent green trade and porter signing were two of the worst mistakes ive seen, and although im sure green is all cams doing, porter could well be all muellers. or capers. who knows?

Lets see Beck, and Tom lets not be harsh on him now. I hate Cam as much as you, and Cam will probably be long gone while Beck is still with us - I have confidence in the kid, got to. You think were drafting a QB next year? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. So go Beck!!!!!!!

[Don Shula's neighbor]

I really believe Wayne Huiznega should not step in and demand Beck. This would be a disaster because you would be forcing a decision upon the coach.

Instead, I would sit back and let Cam Cameron do what he feels he wants to do. Then, if I felt it was a wrong move, I would evaluate the situation at the end of the season.

We all (well except for Cameron) know and feel Beck should start after the bye week for the sake of our future, but if Cameron opts not to play him after the bye, then it gives Huizenga yet one more motive to fire Cameron at the end of the season. You let the coach coach and then you drop the axe.

[r.duke]

I agree with those who think minimally HC, DC, GM, assistant coaches(with exception of Houck(sp?)and entire scouting personnel should be dumped about a 100 miles off shore into the Atlantic without so much as a floatation device, sunscreen or Dramamine. Does anyone actually believe our team could be any worse for the wear by hiring a GM that is known to have a brain and let him put coaching staff, scouting staff etc in place? This is the worst Dolphin team ever. EVER. The bitter irony is that guys like Wanny and Spielman are probably thinking "They were never that bad while we were there." True they were in process of deconstruction at that time. Now that the team has been fully deconstructed it's time to finish the job and jetison coaching staff save Houck. Also Wayne why do you want to hang onto a team that just continues to sink to new lows. Aren't you tired of failure? After London debacle I'd think you would want to sell the team and try your hand at something else like owning a chain of Bingo Halls and Bowling Alley's. Just think about it. I bet those enterprises would make you a fortune without all the humiliation and you could catch all the Dolphin games in the comfort of your own home or a sports bar.

[Tom]

Andy D

I'm not ragging on Ginn as much as I am the lunacy of drafting a punt returner with the 9th overall pick. Ginn may, or may not, turn into a productive player. Right now the verdict is still out on him. 7 catches for the season and mediocre return statistics do not inspire much confidence so far. But who knows, he may be good. I did like the catch on Sunday and the week before he was wide open down the middle for a TD but our Lemon overthrew him. For our sake I hope Ginn turns into an all-pro, because whether we like it or not, he's ours.

As for Beck, I'm rooting for him 100%. But at this point, no one can even render a good guess as to whether he'll pan out. Bottom line is Cam seems very reluctant to play him. What do you think that means?

[lJorge luis]

fish eye proves that there are some fan who are dumber than the fins management.. qb is not the problem? what the hell? that has been our problem since Marino left. Let the man coach his team? he has cost HIS team four winnable games with his bone head play calling Build an offense line? uh, I think thats Hudson Houck's doing. ness yo Shuler, Shuler was never going to make it in the league regardless. Either a player can play or he cant. Either a coach can coach or he cant. Cam is a good assisant.. just like wannsedt and Turner. I will say this again, bring in Marty and demote CaMoron to off. assitant.. they u will get results.

[r.duke]

I really do wish Pioli would take on the IMMENSE CHALLENGE of rebuilding the Dolphins with enough cash thrown at him. Problem is I don't think one billion dollars would be enough. But Wayne you don't have anything to lose by trying. Just make sure he actually wants the job once the dollar signs in his eyes have faded. I wouldn't be so concerned about Cam-Mueller if we didn't suck so bad and I actually had faith in them to draft wisely but I don't. And given our likely position in draft it would be excellent opportunity to upgrade our talent. Unfortuneately I think they'll stink up the joint, have Dolphin fans BOOOOOOOOOOOOING and other teams fans laughing until they choke due to another year of poor to questionable draft decisions and ridiculous FA signings.

[dan marino]

HEY EVERYBODY, ITS ME DAN, IM GONNA PUT IT TO REST AND MAKE A CALL TO CAM IN THE MORNING. HE WILL START BECK , TRUST ME! NOW , IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I CAN DO FOR YALL FANS I LOVE SO MUCH.

[ginrai]

Cam deserves the benefit of the doubt. He's only has been here half a season. He also had to deal with alot of injuries this year. Both offensively and defensively. No one can't win having that many of their players banged up. To win you need the horses no matter how good of a coach.