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Pass on A.I., Tinsley? Right Play

First off, full disclosure: I like Allen Iverson. Always have.     0602210770

I respect the impact he's had on the game from a pure basketball standpoint as well as a cultural/style standpoint. From the moment he crossed up Michael Jordan at the top of the key during his mini-'fro'd rookie season, the kid put the league on notice that he was going to be a force.

My connection to the volatile guard goes back even further than that. Believe or not (and I suspect many of you won't, but that's OK), we once ran in the same metro D.C.-area summer leagues and what is now AAU tournaments. Of course, that, for me, was 40 pounds and 15 years ago. OK, 45 pounds.

Yes, a long, long, long time ago. At least on this end. I only wish for Iverson's sake that his career would end far better than it apparently is going to after Monday's news that he's agreed to terminate his one-year contract with the Memphis Grizzlies. Iverson left the team a week ago after a fall out with coach Lionel Hollins over his role and to attend to a legitimate personal matter.

But it was over before it ever really started on Beale Street for A.I.

Now, I'm not sure if he's the answer for any team in the league. Not even at basement bargain, non-guaranteed contract prices. He's run his reputation into the ground. Only the Grizzlies were willing to gamble on him after the meltdown in Detroit last season.

Iverson was quite a polarizing topic among Heat fans over the summer when he launched his free-agency campaign at a charity function in Virginia, placing Miami atop his list of preferred destinations. I covered the event and spoke to Iverson at length about how things went down and how he planned to restore his image, show up at a camp and outwork everyone and become a force again in the league.

He was convincing. He even cried when he was asked about how his image has taken a beating throughout his career, mainly from misunderstandings and self-inflicted wounds. But the Heat was right for never allowing any interest in Iverson to simmer above luke-warm.

Because the same thing that happened in Memphis would probably have happened here, if not worse. Even with all of the respect/love Iverson said he has for Dwyane Wade and Pat Riley, it wouldn't have trumped the pride he carries in that barely 6-foot frame that is as tough as they've come in NBA history.

But there would have been a Shaq-sized tension in the locker room at the first sign of distress over his role Wade-Shaq behind Mario Chalmers. There would have been migraines throughout the coaching staff had second-year man Erik Spoelstra been in charge of soothing Iverson's ego and demands.

And after things ended sort of icy between D. Wade and Shaq a few years ago, Riley certainly couldn't afford to have another aging NBA legend taint the franchise in a year when the priority is to keep Wade happy and a pen handy for his signature at all times.

Yes, this Heat team still has some holes. And Iverson, now available again, still has some game left. But Miami is still 7-2 and in position to match the best 10-game start in franchise history thanks to the moves Pat Riley didn't make this summer. Sure, break down the record and you'll find two wins against the woeful Wizards, a pair against Big Apple-area busters and another against an Indiana team that put the "H" in horrible on the eve of Halloween.

But, as Wade said recently, "We're winning the games that we're supposed to win. Especially at home. Now, we'll find out a lot more about ourselves once we go out on the road."

More important, Miami is winning relatively headache free.  

Now, there probably isn't one team that supports its coach or cares about chemistry in the locker room that would truly touch Iverson at this point. So I guess that leaves the Warriors, Nets, Knicks and Clippers among potential suitors.

And anything's possible in Golden State. Pat-face-in-hand

As for Memphis, the Grizzlies traded in Iverson's baggage for Jamaal Tinsley's. The Heat is probably going to turn out right for shying away from Tinsley, too, despite the mixed messages his agent sent last summer regarding Miami's interest.

And if things don't work out with Tinsley in Memphis, we hear Latrell Sprewell is next on the Grizzlies list.

When it comes to Iverson and Tinsley, Riley was right for standing, well, pat.

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AI is a joke, i really wanted him here in miami, still would love him for his game in miami, but he such a headache, AI read this buddy, get over yourself, your not as good as you think you are, you are still good, but not great, you have no rings, and your ego has surpassed your game, get a grip on yourself, swallow your stupid loser attitude that you call pride and play off the bench, you act like the bench is hell, look at UD doing it right now for the heat, a starter his whole career, and you may say oh im so much better than UD, yes you WERE better, but UD is more valuable than you right now and any team would take him over you right now, he went to the bench without a peep and said its best for the team, yes a team, you remember what that is allen? a team? no not a tAIm...a would be great behind mario chalmers but with that attitude you aren't playing for anyone but a bunch of dysfunctional may better than chalmers, but you aren't more important? get it? miami would need you to score for the second unit, doing what you do best....its sad all the trash you talk and your fake "crying" that mike reported here because of your image being tainted, dude you did it to yourself, did you hear yourself during your time with the griz? complaining???? wow, its pathetic man....either its winning in a great city like miami making awesome plays when we need you OFF the bench with your mouth shut OR retirement....your pick mr. "answer"

well said mike wallace.

as much as iverson COULD help this team, he more likely WOULD cause more problems than he solves. but man, with all the holes we have at the point guard spot right now...well, you have to admit it is tempting

jd putting ai and ud in the same sentence?!?!?!?!?!?!

Allen Iverson, best little man to ever play the game!! Top 50 player of all time and of course future hall of famer! Definitely one of my favorite players to watch with his fancy dribbles and incredible finishes on top of the big man. Gave his heart and soul on every second he stepped on the court. As a Heat fan I had his Philadelphia jersey and i refuse to say I don't want him in the Heat. What confuses me is every team in the league wants him to come off the bench, but why? half of the teams Pg are nearly as good as him. I believe for example if he was to come to the Heat he should battle Chalmers out for the starting spot. How come Shaq doesn't come off the bench? Wish you the best AI.

Listen up,I come to practice whenever I feel like it cause i'm ME. I don't sit then bench unless it's a mutual agreement between ME and the coach.If you want my services on the court
,shut up and accept the fact that i can do what the hell i want cause i'm ME.I am the #1
option to wherever i go cause i'm ME.If you can't or will not understand these needs,then i rather retire.I refuse to not let it be ALL

A.I should be signed; and NOW !
A.I can score and Miami will need scoring for when the GOOD teams play real D on Wade and force him into double and triple teams.
A.I will also CREATE shots for other players and I will play well with Beasley.
AND Chalmers SHOULD not be starting he is a ROLE player like U.D.

My name is not A I.Iverson takes a back seat to no one.

Chris Paul can't be happy with those cheap Hornets. Luv the the Beas but his prime won't match Wade's Beasley and next year's #1 for Paul...then sign your #1 and #2 tier free agents. Bingo !

This is real simple. Trade Beasley and let this franchise move on. We can all observe him beast on the rest of the league and be proud we are so high on our Heat culture bull.

Honestly AI won't mind coming off the bench if he's doing it to Chalmers the same way Haslem is coming off the bench for Beasley.

AI gets his 30 minutes a game at PG and closes the game. Chalmers gets his token minutes and hardly plays in the 2nd half. Game, set, match.

Sign AI.

After watching the Nets game is anyone surprised Wade and Haslem led us to 15 wins?

well, one of you just read my mind... i thought the best trade would be beasley, 2 first round picks for chris paul... then cook, wright, quinn, jones for rudy gay and thabeet... but hey, you know how do... but on the real side ai would be a good fit for this season, i mean he's still an upgrade.. what sbout pops mensa-bunsu, he was just waived and he does rebound well... at least with these two signed we have options...

We can sign Boozer and put him at SF and complain all we want, but he won't be rebounding for us.

Our problem isn't really a lack of personnel. Our problem is a lack of understanding in how to use our personnel.

How come all these "average" players look good on another team and we want them yet when they play for us we don't think they are good?

Jamario Moon was on the Heat and we couldn't beat the Cavs. He goes to the Cavs and we still can't beat them. The problem isn't that Moon isn't a good talent, it is that we don't know how to use him.

A bad workman blames all his tools. We have been given tools in Mario, Wade, Q, Beasley and JO and yet we are coming up with scenarios to go sign people that have been let go by their teams? AI and Mensah Bonsu? Sure if they were as good as you think they'll still be playing for their teams. Why will a good NBA team let a good rebounder like Pops go?

I guess we're not allowed to question Spo.

hey, what about beasley,wright, 1 first round pick for chris paul, this would give us the best backcourt in the nba with wade/paul... and then jones and cook with the other 1st round pick for rudy gay, thabeet.. then sign pops, and ai... at least now we can compete with the top teams and have a second unit who would be able to out score must second units in the league... don't for get that bosh is available by the trade deadline and or the offseason.. now, lets get it...

A trade for Chris Paul would be sick.Too bad Iverson can't let it go , I mean I would like for him to run wit Dwade but his attitude needs a real adjustment. Another scorer on this team would help Dwade's back since he carries the team most games and it would be much better than give the ball to wade and lets sit back. Then again we are doing just fine so whatever i guess.

I believe Beasley was a scorer coming in. What we didn't like was his inability to defend. AI is worse than Beasley on defense.

I don't get the constant complaints for help on offense for Wade.

I don't understand the animosity towards Iverson. The guy wants to contribute. Everyone in here knows that Chalmers is not NBA starting material right now, why not insert a true scoring PG? I would have no problem with Iverson starting knowing that our bench just got deeper. Haslem and Chalmers coming off off the bench is not a bad problem to have. Iverson would take a lot of pressure off of Wade in terms of defensive assignments and scoring. It just makes perfect sense. If it doesn't work out we can do what Memphis did.

I couldn't disagree more. The Heat could really use AI right now. Sure the Heat are 7-2, but the combined record of their opponets is 21-43.

Chalmers is just not going to get much, if any better. When he plays point, the offense does not run well and he can't shoot. Am I the only one who sees these BRICKS he puts up sometimes?? And most of the time he is WIDE OPEN, because his man is doubling Wade. Then Wade has to take over the point all the time anyways, and then what does Chalmers do? Nothing! Maybe get a steal or 2? I would love for Chalmers to prove me wrong, but I have been waiting for him to improve since last year.

I would at least sign AI and give him the opportunity to fight for the starting job over Chalmers. He said he would play off the bench if it was for a good team.

Imagine having someone who could score consistently when Wade trys to catch his breath for a few minutes... Then he won't have to pull off miracles to beat horrible teams.

Which part of AI doesn't play defense is hard to understand?

Our PG's ROLE is to get the ball past half-court and pass to Wade.

Chalmers has been getting his ass roasted all year on defense by the likes of Nash, Arenas, and Mo Williams. At least AI can get some of those points back.

Oh and LOL at all the point guard has to do is pass the ball to Wade... what about when Wade is on the bench? Wade shouldn't have to be a one man backourt.

When Wade sits Arroyo runs the point and he has been doing a good job at it.

AI vs Chalmers is the same as Beasley vs Haslem.

You know who wins in Miami. Not Beasley and not AI.

Chalmers is a bench player just like Haslem.
Iverson and Beasley are starters.
Chalemers will never be the next Rondo.
Riley needs to sign Iverson for a one year contract and Dumb Spo should have open competition for the starting pg spot.


that's good... we should go for ELLIS as well on GAY & GASOL,MARC... this could be the pieces that may help our team & WADE...





we could still have a chance to have

*amare stoudemire


we lose again to OKC... 1st from preseason...

now we can see the difference... we need consistent pg a sf that can defend as well as can sore... ELLIS would be a perfect fit to our team as to GAY & GASOL,MARC...


Allen Iverson should be signed. PERIOD.



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