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December 24, 2004

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE BLOGLITS

We hope it fits. It's a MOAT.

(Thanks to Leetie)

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Hey Jeff, could I get a reservation in for
George V. Higgins, The Friends of Richard Nixon?

Off soon to watch The Steelers (motto: Go Steelers!)

Eadn, why were you standing on a dead perch? And is that what I smell this morning?

Drunken debauchery and I missed it. Oh well.

Of to find some coffee, and a shower, and head out to the movies. The excitement is too much.

standing on a perch is better than standing on a piece of cod

Then there's the whole codpiece thing.

Codpiece? Oh...codpiece

Good morning, Joshkr - is that codpiece thing more porn???? looked pretty nasty to me...tsk,tsk,tsk

Marvin, if you're around I just spent some time reading your Old Random Thoughts - and enjoying them too - do you know your margins are a teeny bit stretched which wouldn't be a problem except that your paragraphs move from one edge to the other, forcing people to move the scroll each time! Why do I think that was intentional??? But otherwise, good site!

Any further thoughts (or even plans) re moving?? It took 3 minutes to get back here from the codpiece link!!! I apologize for only having dial-up but it's the best I can do right now...
*sighs wistfully*

I'm just being silly, but considering the frame of mind I've been in lately...

Wasn't there a kangaroo pouch thread or two? we could have ...

(wait for it!)

....

a scrot MOAT

scotMOAT?

I think my brain is too frozen to catch the meaning.

19 degrees.

*shiver*

Sly, do you remember what the kangaroo "pouches" were made of?

(only 11 here yesterday, dreading going out today!)

*loves sly a mug of hot chocolate and 2 wool blankets*

a scroatMOAT!
no Scots allowed -

uh, oh.

No one told me there was going to be a test.

I didn't study.

Can it be multiple choice?

*suspects it has something to do with scrotums*

Ah ha! Thanks to search engines.

Kangaroo pouches

*loves neo the same*

neo - when I posted the blankets to sly your post wasn't there - I don't want you to think I was ignoring the fact that you're freezing too - I won't even tell you that it's quite warm here already!

And I am off for a fun fillled afternoon of washing walls and mopping floors and scrubbing woodwork! Woo hoo!

Catch y'all later!

*blows kisses to the MOAT*

Thanks, Eleanor.

I've been watching a diving DVD my daughter and son-in-law got me for Christmas. Beautiful reefs around Tahiti.

Looks nice and warm.

*peep*

The temp has climbed to a balmy 20 degrees.

Oh, and while channel surfing, I ran across the East/West Shrine game. Randy MOATS is a running back for the East.

We should adopt him.

How about...

the next main blog post from a MOAT-let becomes the next MOAT?

Ok, so xanga.com is questionable, but phallic.org/mormon-masturbation isn't. I get it now.

Leetie, I couldn't get past the title before my left hand didn't know what my right was doing ;-)

heh heh ya don't suppose all that anti-spamming foofarah is as much of a different kind of chaos than before NAVA stepped in itself, do ya?!

By the way Folks,

With my job and commute, I only blurk-surf during lunch and post on the weekends. With their computer-monitoring (declared, but questionable since they don't seem to know what the He(l)l is going on unless their computer-subcontractor is there), I don't like to post at work unless there's some extremity I just gotta say my piece to.

Elsewise, I know better than to turn on my computers at home during the week 'cause time would just slip awaaay and when I get home, I'm too damned tired to bother. It's been a while since I regularly checked into the Main Blog, but I do check into The Moat as I can. In the up-coming time, well, tax season is starting early this year and I doubt y'all hear from me much 'til it's over.

In the meantime, being an "oldbie", 'specially to You Eleanor, there's not much that would make me quit The Moat entirely given such friendship :-) notwithstanding my kitty-fits and all! ;-)

Carry On! Booger! Car!

*We now turn you back to your regularly scheduled Moating!*

Mormon Masturbation wbagnfarb? Maybe an anti-Osmonds kind of thing.

As mentioned previously, in Don Imus's b>God's Other Son the main character uses aversion therapy: whenever he gets an erection he slams the window on it.

That could be suggestion #22.

TSUNAMI RELIEF UPDATE

The Tsunami Aid Concert is on RIGHT NOW with top name acts performing and celebrity persons actually answering the phones!

Leetie is currently using the landline and cell phones to dial in and pledge. She's pledging 5 cents each time she gets through but doesn't get to talk to Quentin Tarrantino or Brad Pitt. Nick Gage was an exception when he answered and got a courtesy 15 cents. (She hung up on Leo DiCaprio.)

She says Quentin will get $1000 and Brad *pant* will get $2000. Not that that represents a relative measure of their visual appeal, mind you. Two Quentins will never equal one Brad *Ho, ho, HAAA!!*. It's more of an overall quality quotient kinda thing that remains slightly in shadow, because I know that from a coolness perspective, two Brads fall pretty short of one Quentin. Although Brad did give Kevin Spacey what-for at the end of "Seven".

JU

Walk-a-Mile-in-Her-Shoes Update

Got my hair cut really short today.


She didn't notice.

JU

JU, c'est la women. Nice twist on the "usual" tail though ;-)

We's expected to notice every little thang, but the Lass do brush us off even if they notice our attempts at jest "a little thing" like a haircut.

Gee Golly, "by the nit-picking of my thumbs, something "twisted" this way comes".

O' Course, I do come from a million miles of "verse" and "reverse" sexually-negotiable testimony. Adam! Did ya ever figure what all withall jest for having gotten bored with sheep?! ;-)

heh heh, weird religious me, but that there Supreme Being still doesn't strike me down wit da lightning!

Psst! Still Alive and Well even after my Last! post!

OH YEAH, Folks, despite being in my cups, I still honor and acknowledge my last two posts.

The difference is "balls to the wall". I try Very Hard to meet on the solid grounds of someone else's own choosing. However, some days and these days, I find that the "necessary" is perhaps to move the "ground" to my own usual level of play.

*deep down...way past where the demons do go...I know each and all of you understand what I just said* ;-)

P.S. and nevertheless...go with grace...I'm really just a tired olde fool who's been "wherever" too long. ;-)

Go Steelers!

Sorry Jets (not really) they had 2 chances to win.

We da men!! We'll see you in Jacksonville!

Lol! I second the scrote MOAT...do we have a final motion?

(no, not that motion, Wolfie)

I'm not sure what happened to Tina...she said she'd be on...

And folks...stay tuned tomorrow night or Monday for an important announcement. Ok, not important to you, but very important to me.

JU...doesn't that suck? We try so hard to memorize every hair follicle...because we know we'll never notice, but dammit we try!

Then we go and get a hair cut or grow a third arm or something, and do they bat an eyelash (with, at last count, 639 hairs)?

Noooooo....

My favorite story of males not noticing things:

(I may have told this before, but what the hell, I love it)

One year my sister (about 16) and I (about 17) were living with my father and sis decides to decorate the place all up because Dad and I are horrible, awful people and don't much care for christmas decoration.

She spends an entire day: hauls in a Christmas tree, decorates it, hangs lights and garland all over the place, puts up a wreath, the whole works. Even Wysiwyg would be proud of her work.

Dad comes home from work, walks straight through the door (fully decorated), living room (fully decorated), dining room (fully decorated), and into the kitchen to grab a soda and unpack groceries.

Sis follows him in and says "Hi Daddy! Did you like the decorations?"

He, in total guy-manner, says "umm...what?"

I thought I was about to witness patricide. But my sister is a caring person for someone that once threw a knife through a door at her loving brother, so she dragged him back through where he just walked and pointed everything out to him as if he were the 3-month-old that his awareness tended to show him as.

He oo'd and aa'd accordingly...luckily for him...

Hey Joshkr! Nice illustration ifyaknowwhatImean! :-)

LTTG from 3 nights ago:
Prince Harry is never a bore
Dressed as one of the Afrika Korps
His Nazi-like dress
Did not impress
And many asked, 'What are kings for?'

Eadn...speaking of which, check out this illustration of ramparts...nice, huh???

Insomniac...ROFL loved the poem! Check out this illustration of ramparts...

Damn, I do repeat myself!

Will someone take the genital herpes ad off of the top of this thread? It is really creeping me out.

The "doctor" is pretty hot, though. she could check me for herpes any day. Erm, with Rachel's permission of course.

And since Neo immediately quizzed me in IMs about my earlier post...tomorrow Rach and I are going to have a delicious breakfast, followed by (censored), followed by a nice lunch, followed by (censored), followed by our very very late private christmas in which I will give her something she asked for but has forgotten she asked for...I love that, followed by (censored).

Followed by me asking her to move in with, well, me.

Oh, and then I'm taking her to her favorite strip-club, followed by (censored).

I'll tell you all her response tomorrow. Or monday. Depending on (censored).

Joshkr, I got the calendars on Friday, at school. Haven't hung them up yet, since I'm trying to figure out how exactly I'm going to work it.

What health care field does Rach do?

I had a nice long chat with the BF last night. Although I was perturbed because I read him a love poem I had written him and he didn't get it. Now *he* is the one with more doubts about the viability of our relationship it seems...well, he's waiting for me to make up my mind on a) what I'm going to do for a career and b) what I'm going to do about us. Neither of which I know at this point.

Good morning everyone from sunny so.ca. but since it's still dark out I have no ida if it's sunny or not -

I third the motion for the ScroatMOAT - who's going to find it and when are we going to move??

I will be very busy today - 2 football games and then I have to get dressed up for the Golden Globe Awards tonight so I can only be a follower!

*fingers crossed for Joshkr's plan*
I guess not hearing from Rach for 3 days really made him put pedal to the medal!

Good morning everyone from sunny so.ca. but since it's still dark out I have no ida if it's sunny or not -

I third the motion for the ScroatMOAT - who's going to find it and when are we going to move??

I will be very busy today - 2 football games and then I have to get dressed up for the Golden Globe Awards tonight so I can only be a follower!

*fingers crossed for Joshkr's plan*
I guess not hearing from Rach for 3 days really made him put pedal to the medal!

Great way to start the day - double post!

And I was a little cranky to begin with -
*sulks*

Eleanor,
It happens. Don't sulk
JU

Eleanor,
It happens. Don't sulk
JU

Thank you, JU - you made me smile - maybe the day won't be a total loss!

Thank you, JU - you made me smile - maybe the day won't be a total loss!

There seems to be something wrong with my computer today - when I push post, the dreaded "can't find server" comes up and then when I re-enter the site there's a double post - so I re-booted and if it happens again with this post, I will withdraw for the day - however, I will be blurking, so if you talk about me, be kind!

*good luck to myself*

There seems to be something wrong with my computer today - when I push post, the dreaded "can't find server" comes up and then when I re-enter the site there's a double post - so I re-booted and if it happens again with this post, I will withdraw for the day - however, I will be blurking, so if you talk about me, be kind!

*good luck to myself*

There seems to be something wrong with my computer today - when I push post, the dreaded "can't find server" comes up and then when I re-enter the site there's a double post - so I re-booted and if it happens again with this post, I will withdraw for the day - however, I will be blurking, so if you talk about me, be kind!

*good luck to myself*

This will be my last post since my computer has obviously decided it does not want to play today! Triple posts are not cute, and even I am getting bored with myself!
However, I just wanted to tell MOATers that Gene Weingarten column in today's Washington Post Sunday magazine is a conversation he had with Dave (real or not, I couldn't say) but it's great!

If you move to the Scroat MOAT, wherever that will be, will someone please send me an -e-mail?
Thank you.

OK, I'm pushing post now - apologies to all!

This will be my last post since my computer has obviously decided it does not want to play today! Triple posts are not cute, and even I am getting bored with myself!
However, I just wanted to tell MOATers that Gene Weingarten column in today's Washington Post Sunday magazine is a conversation he had with Dave (real or not, I couldn't say) but it's great!

If you move to the Scroat MOAT, wherever that will be, will someone please send me an -e-mail?
Thank you.

OK, I'm pushing post now - apologies to all!

One more try - since I appear to be the only one here, who am I bothering beside myself?

Morning everyone. It's cold here and getting colder. Jackie is sick with bronchitis and coughing her guts out.

First, Sly -- I saw two of your commercials during the football game yesterday and they are definitely for IBM, so I was right.

Eleanor, don't want to make you more cranky but didn't I already provide the link to that Gene Weingarten column about Dave? (See yesterday's 10:25 AM post.)

Yes, the Jets had their chances and certainly should have won. For whatever reason, they've handled Big Ben better than any other team this year -- twice -- but lost both times. While their (not there) defense and special teams have done the job their offense has SUCKED. Pennington was crap yesterday and they repeated the mistake the Chargers made last week that let them (the Jets) win -- when they got in approximate field goal range they didn't keep pushing down the field to get it closer for an easier kick but settled for a long one, missed, and lost.

Anyway, to be honest I was only rooting for the Jets for two reasons -- 1, they're (not their) a New York (area) team, and 2, they mostly outplayed the Steelers and deserved to win. I'm a Giants fan.

Anyway, even had they won there is NO WAY they can beat New England or Indianapolis.

Jets Offense had 3 points, their Defense & Special teams had 14. Both those TDs where by Pitts mistakes. IMHO, not what I'd call out playing anyone.

Big Ben, on the other hand, made many rookie mistakes that should have cost the game. Pitts has been on a steady decline over the last 4 - 5 games. Next Sunday should be interesting.

Ha, Ha to the Jets!
*said sarcastically*
What goes around, comes around -

Sorry Jeff - forgive me for being redundant!

*still cranky, will try not to post again until crankiness disappears*

at least double posts seem to be fixed...

A 'double-cheeker' for Mr. Moss

A Viking receiver named Moss
Had Packers (and fans) at a loss
He showed his true class
By baring his ass
'Just pretend',not for real of course!

His skill at scatological mime
Comes at an opportune time
If his injuries worsen
You'll see him, in person
On a corner, you can lend him a dime!

I knew it. I just knew the Rams were going to lose and in en embarrasing fasion as well. There was just no way an 8 & 8 team was going to get very far.

Oh, well....spring training is just around the corner.

Checking the MOAT calendar - Happy Birthday kat!!!!

Little Adorable (3): I want a football game on now. Put on a good one.
JU: This is the best one.
LA: Is Tiki Barber (pronounced BowBoo) on this one?
Leetie: *snork*
...
LA: The Vikings are my favorite team.

as long as it's not the Eagles!

I have a gut feeling that the Super Bowl is going to be Eagles v Steelers.

And I think Tiki Barber has the best name in football. I love saying it; followed closely by Pisa Tinoisamoa. I have yet to get through Manumaleuna without getting lost. In an interview, he was asked with a name like that, what do his team mates call him. He said "Brandon".

sly, I hate to rub it in but I couldn't help note a couple of devastating analyses of the efforts the Rams put out (or didn't) yesterday.

One article said: "Mike Martz's high-powered Rams can't stop the run -- or, rather, they can't be bothered with basics like defense and punt coverage."

And a columnist had a great line: "The Rams were playing defense as if this were an NBA All-Star Game." Ouch! (For those not into sports, they don't play defense in the NBA All-Star Game, which is why the score is always 136-127.)

I see another bad team that should never have been in the playoffs -- the Vikings -- is going down after another poor effort. I'd like to see the Falcons beat the hated Eagles next week, but I wouldn't bet on it. And I'm hoping Peyton Manning gets over whatever happens to him in Foxboro and socks it to the Patriots.

Loved the LA story, Leetie. Tiki Barber is a good role model!

Sly, your Pisa Tinoisamoa story rminded me there was also a piece about another of your favorites today, ET's Maria Menounos. (That was who you meant last week, wasn't it?) Anyway, it seems she's worn out her welcome at that intellectual hotbed with her "total diva" behavior and everyone hates her, but she's putting out word that she hates Mary Hart and is "angling for a deal in the hig six figures to defect to...Access Hollywood" (which -- if possible -- is even shallower).

THE HIGH SIX FIGURES? Someone is going to pay her like $800,000 - for what?

We definitely were born with the wrong looks and too many brains.

Jeff, you should have heard the analyses at the football party last night.

Guy 1: We didn't have that many turnovers."

Guy 2: It's hard to lose the ball when you never have possession.

***

Me: Who's our special teams coach?

Guy 2: Fired.

****

Gal 2: Orlando Pace hasn't been called for being offsides (which happens a lot)

Guy 3: He hasn't had the opportunity. The offense hasn't been on the field.

****

Guy 4: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (he fell asleep after half time)


***EMOTIONAL MOTHER ALERT*****

She's gone. *sniff*

Meghan and I packed the car; which included having her sit on the trunk to get it to close. Then she went to pick up her friend who also goes to Murray State, and they came back here for me to see how crammed they are and to take pictures. I told them I don't think it's a particularly good idea to show a parent how crammed they had the car. I tried to insist that I would drive stuff down next weekend. Her friend's mom tried to talk them into them driving her down tonight.

I also tried to talk them into letting me go buy those space bags to pack stuff in and then suck the air out.

But they left anyway. They do have clear viewing, so .......

But..

{{NERVOUS}}

I don't think a car could be as packed as that. If they hit a bump, I seriously think the trunk and doors are going to spring open, spewing clothes, blankets, printers and shoes all over the countryside.

Re: Eagles v Vikings.

LOVED the Eagles third touchdown, the recovered fumble. (I think it was the third)

And now I see the Patriots are up to their old tricks...a playoff game in a snowstorm.

*goes in search of Milano cookies*

Yes, she's a Kentucky Racer.

Haven't seen the IKEA commercial

I've posted a pic of Meghan and her friend, Meghan, crammed into the car. It's in the Babes in Moatland folder.

Hey, sly, I think I passed that car on my way back to college! No rear-view visibility, pillows stuffed in the backseat window? Light-colored car?
Don't know how they ended up in New York, but it's the journey that's important, right? They were headed south, so there's a good chance they know where they're going now.

Daughter Update:

Just got a call, the girls and everything in the car made it to school. I pointed out that now they have the joy of hauling a carload of stuff up 5 flights of stairs.

She said they had already called some boys to help them and two are waiting for them at the dorm with another one on his way.

That's my girl!!

Women playing the GUY card! SOME things just don't change.

Yep, Jeff. That's what I'm seeing too. Though missing the game on tv. Only the NFL score board to go by.

The Chineese acrobats look good though....

Kibby, the GUY card only works as long as the guys fall for it.

:)

MeThinks it's the closest to the theme that we've seen in awhile. I skimmed back through Oct and didn't see any better. GOTTA kill the spam though.

GAME OVER DUDE!

Sly, guess I stopped falling for it.

*wonders if that's really true*

So, we'll see a rematch. Pitt v NE @ Pitt.

got to call it a night!

Jeff, I'm in - it took 5 minutes for this to load!!!!!!!

Y'all need to upgrade to a lil better su'in su'in. It takes nary a second to load on my super-fly laptop!

...although there is already around 50 posts in that last topic I linked to. Jeff's only had 16 (without spam), and it was posted a month later. We need an executive decision!

Marvin - when I'm in a really bad mood (such as today, I really am annoyed by showing off as well as the length of time this takes to load, either when I post or refresh - so I'm leaving now, after I knit a sweatwer and bake a cake while waiting for this post to load, so I can turn off my computer!

Jeff, if you move, would you send me an e-mail (or anyone else for that matter) so I don't have to start my day tomorrow like this -
Thank you very much.

Eadn...speaking of which, check out this illustration of ramparts...nice, huh???

Posted by: Joshkr on January 16, 2005 03:14 AM

Uhh, link please Joshkr :-) Ya know I canna pass up a chance to view o'er the ramparts! ;-)

P.S. since I've been a persnickety curmudgeon lately, could y'all please DROP the capital "E" from my moniker?! Looks funny to me like whenever someone calls me "Sir".... (I's jest another guy on the planet yaknowwhatImean?! |-)

Anyways, Take "Car"e and Be Well, Dear Bloglits! (and leave a trail of something more tasty than breadcrumbs on the next move if you would...Please and Thank You! :-)

Just for you Eleanor..."and with a little sugar on top"! ;-)

eadn, it is just that the capital is what we were all taught as children: you capitalize the first letter of proper names and the first letter of a sentence. It is habit.

*considers calling eadn "Sir Eadn," to tease him*
*reconsiders!*

neophyte...heh heh...well since my moniker is NOT my proper name, that takes care of that issue.

If you call me "Sir" the first thing I do is look around to see who (whom?) you're really talking to.

In response to your Last!, "Sir Eadn" sounds like something surrealistic and haven't we had enough of that here?!...well...given Blog-clock differences, posting-"orders"?!, and ????

eadn, you theink neophyte is MY proper name? but everybody calls me "Neo." I'll try to remember: no caps for eadn :)

Thanks Neo,

I'll Certainly remember that You're Undoubtedly more FAIR to Behold :-) than Mr. Matrix who's name I can't remember since it's not written on the bottom of my cup!

Nevertheless, I'm not Morpheus, just eadn...bet a couple of double-A batteries on that one! :-)

Oh, and actually that spins rather well to one of the First!s of The Moats: Graz

A person of Most High Regard in my book. Right up there next to Punky! ;-)

*eadn asks forsooth for wallowing in times long since gone byyyy*

*hic*

*smile* yes, eadn, I miss those times long since gone by, too... which is of course, odd, since I wasn't here for those times in the first place

Nuff said, milady...we must move onnnn ;-)

Folks, just let me go by in my rocking chair, blurkmobile, and all....

We are here now...gone from another place.

C'est la vie for my memory :-)

neophyte, if you blurked it ALL, then You were there....

:) no eadn, I blurked only after it had happened

And what are you drinking? And can I have one?

Hee Hee! Sly - the Megan and Megan photo reminds me of my own experiences moving house - used to be able to do it with two car and trailer loads, bed and everything, and I got it to the point I knew where everything fitted in which part of the car on each trip....but Megan's trip looks more like one of those "lets see how many undergraduates we can fit in a phone booth" experiences.

Without reading all the posts, I hope they didn't have to travel far...

...and, noticing Eleanor's post about thread loading time, it has been a quiet observation of mine that when the MOAT gets to about 2000 something entries it starts to feck people off - particularly the less advantaged of us that have dial up links.

Trick is, you gursty chatty people hit that mark about every three weeks or so - it used to be once a month, but its not working any more.

So here is a suggestion to keep the moves simple and easy for everyone to follow:

On the first and 15th of each month (at least until the level of chatter makes even THAT inpractical), relocate the MOAT to the last post of the equivalent day in the previous month (i.e. the first one as you scroll down to that day).

So, we have just gone past the 15th of January, so the relevant entry would be the last post on the 15th of December - that is this one titled "Attention Men". When the first of February comes along, just move it to the 1st of January, and so forth.

At each move (on midnight of the day of the change, ie. 11:59 on the 14th and whatever the last day of the month is) the LAST (hee hee, couldn't help myself) one there would leave a reminder and a link to the next MOAT, and naming it becomes an artistic competition given the random nature of the topic.

That way, there is no pissing about with those that are link-speed challenged getting into problems with those that aren't, and it never really gets too long for anyone to load, and its easy to remember, and you never run out of dates.

But that's just my thought, and I'm not even supposed to be here....

For someone that thoughtlessly decided to post that was a very thoughtfull thought.

booger

And I, for 2, being a Gemini, seem to think it makes sense.

Arrrrgh!!!! My computer died on Friday! *grumble* I haven't yet been able to determine if it's the power supply or the hard drive.

All great suggestions, but the longer we wait, the harder it will be to decide.

SCROAT MOAT!!!

Good morning everyone from su.so.ca where it will be in the high 70's today, but is in the 40's right now! I see we're still here -

I'm in a much better mood today, I apologize to everyone if I was unpleasant yesterday!

*wheels in cart of coffee, lattes, Krispy Kremes, danish, croissants, chocolate hip cookies, and Special K for anyone on diet so everyone will like her again*

*is exhausted from pushing such a heavy cart*

Good morning everyone from su.so.ca where it will be in the high 70's today, but is in the 40's right now! I see we're still here -

I'm in a much better mood today, I apologize to everyone if I was unpleasant yesterday!

*wheels in cart of coffee, lattes, Krispy Kremes, danish, croissants, chocolate hip cookies, and Special K for anyone on diet so everyone will like her again*

*is exhausted from pushing such a heavy cart*

SCROAT MOAT!!!

Good-by yukkie old MOAT - I will not miss you one bit!!!!!!

*sad that her MOAT upset Eleanor so much*

*packs up Waterford crystal ball for next year*

*pitifully blows noisemaker one more time*

Better put the link at the bottom again...

WE'VE MOVED!

SCROAT MOAT!!!

I will. It was a very good new years party, Leetie, and you were a wonderful hostess. Thanks for letting us stay so long.

I'm going to miss the swans.

*attack swans follow neo out the door quietly*

There were eventually 5 books in the Hitchhiker Trilogy - the last two being "so long and thanks for all the fish" and "mostly harmless" (readers will get the refernces) though personally I thought the last was not very good.

I only came here because my bosses have just sent an email around to say they are sending someone to clean our keyboards, mouses, monitors and TELEPHONES - so it comes full circle and there really is such an occupation as telephone sanitizer.

I also thought some might enjoy the happy little attachment that came with this notice, which at least explains why I will be off line for a bit:

VNUNET TECHNOLOGY NEWS

Workstations 'dirtier than toilets'
By Nick Farrell [09-05-2002]
US health expert lifts the lid on 'bacterial nightmare'

A health expert in the US has claimed that many toilets are cleaner than computer workstations.

A study by University of Arizona microbiologist Chuck Gerba demonstrated that the average workstation has 400 times more bacteria than the average toilet.

According to Gerba, office washrooms had the lowest levels of germs of all of the surfaces he tested, but some of the office workstations he looked at were bacterial nightmares.

The telephone is the worst offender with the highest bacteria counts, closely followed by the desktop itself and the computer keyboard.

Most workstations are hardly ever cleaned, and Gerba said that they can "sustain millions of bacteria that could potentially cause illness".

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