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yup

Fidel has almost always been correct about the Miami Cuban exile community. That is why he chased them out in the first place. He said he didnt want them. Now, America feels the same way. We dont want them here either. Yes, Fidel was and continues to be right about the corrupt and racist Cuban exile community.

nonee moose

hey louJIF... how're they hangin'? Are they hangin'?

Walter Lippmann

If it's wrong for Washington to pay journalists in Miami to produce anti-Castro propaganda, isn't it every bit as wrong, perhaps even MORE wrong, for Washington to pay journalists in CUBA to produce anti-Castro propaganda?

After all, that's precisely what the Cuban government charged those journalists with not long ago. Here in the Herald, and in almost all of the rest of the U.S. media, we were told that these were "independent" journalists, because they took a political position against that of the Cuban government.

But how "independent" were they, really? Washington wasn't about to pay them for producing propaganda FOR the Cuban government, and thus people who were paid by Washington were paid for their loyalty to Washington's anti-Castro agenda.

Journalists who receive payment from foreign governments do so to serve the political agenda of those governments.

Isn't it time that the United States government stopped paying journalists to work for Washington's agenda in Cuba?


Walter Lippmann
Los Angeles, California

Manuel A. Tellechea

How much lower can you sink, Oscar? You are looking for friends in very strange places. The hometown of Walter Mondale, the bankrupt capital of liberalism? Is that where your politics run now? What's next? Are you going to reproduce the article from Granma citing your yeoman service on behalf of the interests of the regime? I suppose that a man with as few friends as you have now in Miami must look elsewhere for support and succour, but, really, is this the best you can do?

So what if the editorial page of the Minneapolis Star Tribune supports the Miami Herald's arbitrary and unjustified firing of three Cuban-Americans journalists who freelanced for Radio Marti with the the knowledge and tacit approval of The Miami Herald (as has now been fully established).

The editorial ignores all the latest revelations (which I bet you wish everybody else did also) and even congratulates Castro for being "correct" in his suspicions about Cao (suspicions that he holds about every opponent). What it does not say, however, is that every journalist in Cuba is a government employee and all the newspapers there are government-operated. Nor does it mention the plight of independent journalists in Cuba who are jailed and persecuted by the regime for not accepting official censorship. It limits itself to excoriating, from the depths of its abysmal ignorance, the Cuban-American journalists who exercised their constitutional right to practice their profession in the manner that they saw fit. For journalists are not chattel and cannot be compelled to limit or surrender their freedom of expression to a corporate conglomerate which wishes to assume the same prerogatives of a Fidel Castro, and, indeed, may have been acting at his behest in this matter, as has already been insinuated even in The Herald itself.

casper

Manuel,


You remind me of the fat lil butterball, with his belly hanging over belt. Waiting impatiently in the buffet line, always bitching and moaning about the food. But yet, for some odd reason just cant resist getting another plate.

Manuel A. Tellechea

Caspar:

Aren't you a "ghost"?

ted

Looks like the big mouths have failed miserably. Oscar didnt get fired. The blog rolls have not been taken down. And they have accepted the inevitable.

Fact of the matter is nobody really cares. And when i say nobody, i mean the cuban community. Seems as if they have gotten fat and lazy in Miami, dancing the night away at Mangos. My guess is that just like pre-Mariel boatlift. The Cubans here "really" dont want to see tens of thousands of black/mixed raced Cubans flooding into Miami.

I mean really, how would that change the quality of life for the comfortable Cubans who have settled into Miami?

Obviously, Bush doesnt give a crap. Oh wait, he has (5) yes count em (5) teams researching life after Cuba. I am sure that the conservatives in upstate Florida would be beside themselves if they saw tens of thousands of Cubans flocking into Florida.

I can almost hear Trancredo, Buchannon, Lou Dobbs, and the conservative base going ballistic when they see the newly freed Cubans adding to what they term the immigration crises. What will Val Prieto, George L, Ziva, and Henry Gomez say then? Will they call the conservatives "commie liberals?" Will they call the republican party for what it is, and that is a racist party.

Or will the side with the liberals who will "stupidly" welcome the newly freed Cubans with open arms, as has been their history.

My guess is that they will side with the conservative republicans who will demand they all be sent back. After all, that was the prevailing mindset when the Mariel Boatlift was occuring. At least with the well-heeled type Cuban. You know the rich Cuban, who has it so good here, that he doesnt want anything or anybody, including ten of thousands of Cubans messing it up.

Yes, it will be interesting to see how the racist Miami Cubans react to a darkened, more blacker Miami, albeit black/mixed Cubans. Because we already know how the republican base will react.

Alex

Carta de Sylvia G. Iriondo, Presidenta de M.A.R. Por Cuba a El Nuevo
Herald.

Nuestra organización – Madres y Mujeres Anti Represión (M.A.R. Por
Cuba) – no puede guardar silencio ante los despidos de tres periodistas de
gran prestigio en nuestra comunidad y el haber mencionado a otros
periodistas internacionalmente reconocidos en el artículo de Oscar Corral.
La integridad, honestidad y reputación de estos profesionales han sido
cuestionadas por la arbitrariedad conque fueron cesanteados unos, y las
implicaciones difamatorias contenidas en la historia de referencia, que
sugiere corrupción por parte de todos ellos.

Nuestra comunidad se siente indignada por el injusto proceder de la
gerencia del Miami Herald. A través de los años, en las páginas del
periódico ha habido referencias previas a la participación de algunos de sus
periodistas en programas de Radio y TV Martí. Que la empresa a través
de sus representantes nos diga que despidieron a estos periodistas
porque no tenía conocimiento de que colaboraban profesionalmente con Radio
Martí o TV Martí, es, en el mejor de los casos, suprema incompetencia
por parte de la gerencia, y, en el peor caso, una campaña discriminatoria
contra la comunidad cubana. Es más, el que la empresa diga que sabía de
sus comparecencias, pero que desconocía que recibían remuneración por
su trabajo profesional, es desconocer las regulaciones por parte de
emisoras de radio propiedad de entidades gubernamentales a través del mundo
libre.

Este artículo, anunciado por el régimen castrista con antelación, que
advirtió de sus “consecuencias” – hecho que omite Oscar Corral en su
artículo -- coincide con la visión totalitaria de ese régimen en cuanto a
considerar mercenario a todo el que se atreva a opinar contrario a su
línea oficial. Castro sabe que las informaciones y opiniones suscritas
por estos periodistas han logrado en muchas ocasiones llegar al pueblo
de Cuba y romper el fuerte bloqueo informativo que existe en la Isla. El
artículo de Oscar Corral parte de una premisa errónea, la de implicar
que cualquier periodista que trabaje para un medio de comunicación
sustentado por fondos gubernamentales está comprometiendo en ello su ética y
profesionalismo. Si esto fuera cierto, entonces se pudiera también
erróneamente asumir que todos los periodistas que trabajan en The Miami
Herald responden asimismo a los intereses particulares de los dueños de
ese periódico y de sus inversionistas.

Para M.A.R. Por Cuba esta acción por parte de la administración del
Miami Herald sí constituye un “conflicto de intereses” y rompe la
confianza entre el periódico y el lector. Por lo tanto, en el día de hoy
estamos cancelando nuestras suscripciones al periódico.

Sinceramente,

Sylvia G. Iriondo, Presidenta – M.A.R. Por Cuba


cubanpatriot

Corral it looks like your scoop got scooped up by someone else. The New York Sun reports that many US journalists are on the VOA (US Government Payroll). Too bad you were only trying to smear Cuban-American journalists, if you weren't you wouldn't have missed the bigger picture. Ouch.

http://www.nysun.com/article/39509?access=884281

By they way, by law OCB has to live up to the same standards of journalistic ethics as the VOA, so that garbage about them being too separate entities is just that, garbage. They are both arms of the same agency.

ted

I find it very interesting at how angry, and upset the cuban exiles have been lately. I mean anyone can look at Castro, and know that is a dead man walking. It seems as if Val Prieto, Henry Gomez and others should be happy. I wonder why they are so frustrated after nearly 50 years of waiting for Fidels death. Just wondering.

ted

Cubanpatriot aka Val Prieto,


Can you cite a more reputable source than some racist conservative rag, like the New York Sun.

Manuel A. Tellechea

I noted on Friday on this blog that some of the most reputable journalists in the U.S. work for the Voice of America and are compensated by the government for their work. This has been the case since the very inception of VOA (long before Oscar was born).

The New York Sun article exposing the Anglo moonlighters at VOA has turned a local story into a national one. It has also exposed the racism and hypocrisy of America's media elite, who have disingenuously tried to create distinctions between their work at VOA and the Cuban-American journalists' work at Radio Marti which simply do not exist. Both, of course, are agencies of the U.S. government answerable to the same government-appointed governing board. And the checks that both are paid are also identical.

It seems, Oscar, that you missed the forest for the trees. Or perhaps yours was simply a personal vendetta against your fellow Cuban-American journalists which would have been diluted if placed within a broader context.

Ariadna

Can you sleep well, Oscar, after knowing that because of your sloppy reporting three families are devastated? Do you know Cancio's little son doesn't have health insurance coverage because your company had no consideration and cut it the very same day he got fired?
Don't tell yourself the firings are not your fault. All this mess IS your fault. It is the consequence of your irresponsibility as journalist (a tittle you certainly don't deserve). You didn't check the facts. You didn't interview all the sources. You wrote your story with prejudice against those journalists. You didn't bother to watch or hear the programs in which they had appeared.
Now you've opened the Pandora box.
Now everybody knows about your ethics code: you only try to interview your colleagues for the story -Alfonso, Cancio and Connor, who were only a floor above you- AFTER they had been fired. And your editor said your paper spent two years investigating. Ja!
Why such a hurry, Oscar? Trying to snatch the Pulitzer from the Chicago Tribune?
You'll never get one, because you don't have the talent nor the guts and the honesty that make a good journalist.
Shame on you. Shame on you.

ted

Manuel,


Of course there is one standard for Cuban journalists, and one for anglos. Of course, its is ok for anglos (whatever party) to take money. Of course, the cuban journalist will get his hand smacked for the very same practice. This nation was built on one standard for anglos, and another standard for all others. Note: the others usually vote Democratic, lone exception being Cuban, because they dont think they are the others. LOL

Fact of the matter is that the cold-war front which the Cuban exile community was built and prospered around is now obsolete. They are quite simply disposable. Much like a secret ops commando, who after conducting a classified mission is left on the battlefield to die.

Truth of the matter is that the Cuban-American community will experience many future humiliating forms of racism from the frightened establishment. This will be particularly true once tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of Cubans quickly attempt to live/reunite with families in Southflorida.

I have long suspected that this government has always been intimidated by a strong Cuba. Perhaps this is why they "allowed" Fidel to remain in power for so long. Perhaps this is why Bush seems at best to be neglectful to this rare and exciting moment in Cuban history.

Perhaps, the establishment is taking steps to cleanse itself of the Cuban machine it once built up. Perhaps, this government really doesn't want a strong Cuba. Perhaps this government does not want a Florida to become a foothold by which Cubans can flourish and have too much power in this nation. Perhaps, the establishment thinks that the Cuban people really doesnt give a shit anymore.

Nevertheless, it is clear at this point that forces are at work to take steps to "guard" against and not "facilitate" a free Cuba. And yes Manuel, much of it is based in flat out anglo racism. That is why the Cubans used to be Democrats. And that is precisely why many Cuban-Americans are beginning to "quietly" move back into a party that does not have a racist core that despises their last name, their language, their religion, their culture.


But you cannot blame Oscar. Why? Same reason why Bill Cosby slapped some in the black community. Wrong is wrong. Right is right. You should channel your anger at the forces which may have been really at work. However, if you did, i suspect you would not like what you would find. As it is more than likely some good ole racist conservatives who are becoming absolutely terrified of the prospects of a free Cuba. Can you image that. A prosperous nation full of smart, hardworking Spanish speaking people.

This nation, and particularly the conservatives are horrified by the Hispanization of America. Oh, i know Cubans are really white, they are not Latinos, or even Hispanics. They have white skin, so that makes them really anglos. Aint that right Val, you should know after your experience up in New York. LMAO Just ask Arnold Swartznegger.


Yes, we cant have those Cubans doing too well down there, because it really looks like this freedom for Cuba thing could actually be for real. We cant have a bunch a blacks/half breeds, or just a bunch of Spanish speaking people invading Florida.

Oh my, it looks like America might to have to find another Fidel to rule another 50 years to prevent that. America loves its dictators, that way we can indirectly keep their population in line. Cite: Egypt, Jordan, UAE, basically any Mideast dictatorships. After all, they are our only friends left in the world, so to speak. It would not surprise me at the very least, if another dictator took over after Raul.

Of course, if another Fidel magically appeared in Cuba, there will be many Miami Cubans who wouldn't notice, or even care. As they would to busy doing the salsa down at Mangos.

Manuel A. Tellechea

Oscar:

Several years ago New York's "Village Voice" published an article ridiculing you, which I doubt very much they would have done except for the fact that you are a Cuban-American and as such not entitled
to any of the ordinary civilities that journalists accord one another.

In other words, New York's elite effetes did not consider you one of their fraternity, but, rather, indistinguishable from the Nuevo Herald reporters that you yourself look down your nose at (while you are aiming at their backs).

The story, as I recall, was about your seeming infatuation with Miami's (then) new police chief--is his name Timoney?--and ridiculed what it characterized as a puff piece that you wrote about him.

Why do I bring up this unpleasant memory?

To remind you that you will never be more than what you are right now — a Cuban-American journalist, which, in the minds of your Anglo colleagues, is an oxymoron. Because you are Cuban-American, your impartiality will always be questioned; you will never be regarded as a true professional; and the highest aspiration you can have is to be "the house Cuban."

The only possible use that you will ever be to your bosses is as a stick with which to beat down other Cuban-American journalists.

But, of course, you are aware of that now.

Manuel A. Tellechea

Ariadna:

Oscar has very thick skin. I am sure that he is sleeping soundly now as we who do have a conscience and compassion worry about the fate of those who have been victimized by his opportunism and disgard for the truth.

The envy--the endemic envy--that destroyed our country 47 years ago, has yet to be uprooted from the hearts of many Cubans. Sadly, as Oscar's case demontrates, it has even infected the younger generation.

A Cuban who seeks to destroy the lives of other Cubans is no different from the odious masses that once cried: "Paredon!"

WheresJohn?

Ariadna asked: Can you sleep well,

Why wouldn't he? After all he is a reporter, and he reported.

Ariadna asked: Oscar, after knowing that because of your sloppy reporting three families are devastated?


There are other papers than the Herald. Matter of fact, once Cuba is free you and your family can go down there and work. After all, i thought you people wanted to go back down there.

Ariadna asked; Do you know Cancio's little son doesn't have health insurance coverage because your company had no consideration and cut it the very same day he got fired?


Actually, i would blame Bush, and he stupid little war, and the trillions we spent down a rats hole. Dont blame Oscar for the lack of health insurance. You voted conservative, now you suffer from their policies.


Ariadna said; Don't tell yourself the firings are not your fault.


No, it will be supportive bloggers like myself who tell him it isn't his fault. Your husband violated journalist ethics and was justifiably sent packing. Good riddance.

Ariadna said; All this mess IS your fault.


Mess, gimmie a break, trying living under Castro like those brave Cubans still on the island. You husband only lost a job. And why arent you working?

Ariadna said: It is the consequence of your irresponsibility as journalist (a tittle you certainly don't deserve).


Sure he deserves that title. Oscar scooped the entire nation on the rampant fraud, which your husband was involved in.


Ariadna said: You didn't check the facts. You didn't interview all the sources.


Apparently he had enough facts, for your husband to admit in his wrongdoing.


Ariadna said: You wrote your story with prejudice against those journalists.


I think most people have prejudices against journalists who are paid to write propaganda puff pieces.


Ariadna said: Now you've opened the Pandora box.


No, he hasn't, because nobody in Miami except you dishonest types gives a crap about your dishonest husband.


Ariadna said: Now everybody knows about your ethics code:


Yah, exactly what they should be, superior.


Ariadna asked: Why such a hurry, Oscar? Trying to snatch the Pulitzer from the Chicago Tribune?


Yah, and he will probably get it to, judging by the worldwide support that Oscar has received. Enough already with the exile corruption here in Miami.


Ariadna asked: You'll never get one, because you don't have the talent nor the guts and the honesty that make a good journalist.


Are you one of the judges who determines who gets the Pulitzer and who doesn't. If you are not a judge, then i dont think you are qualified to say what he will or wont get.


Ariadna said: Shame on you. Shame on you.

No shame on your husband, for not having the cohoneys to show up his own self.

Manuel A. Tellechea

John:

Have the attendants loosen your straitjacket so that you can go to sleep.

With you (and your various alter egos) as his only defender, Oscar truly has cause for concern.

WheresJohn?

I am not John, i would like to know where he is though. Have you seen him around? And has anybody seen a.t.?

WheresJohn?

Manual,


For crying out loud. This cuban hussie is crying about some freggin health care for her 5 year old kid. Its freggin Miami, he wont catch the flu. Just keep his lil ass out of the middle of the street, and he wont need health care. I swear you Cubans certainly have a flair for the dramatics. And if worse comes to shove, they can take their dishonest asses right back to Cuba. I understand they have free health care down there. Cry me a freggin river. Wipe the fake tears, and go into real estate or something.

cubanpatriot

You know what might be cool? If Oscar Corral treated this blog like a real blog and responded to comments. I guess that's asking too much of a guy that had to go underground for a month to produce a pile of guano the size of mount everest.

a different thought

Am I the only one who doesn't give a hoot about these journalists on the U.S.' payroll? Maybe I'm a cynic but aren't all journalists on someone's payroll? Therefore, always read everything and believe nothing. This is much ado about nothing.

Manuel A. Tellechea

Cubanpatriot:

Remember, Oscar was in a safehouse for more than a month, venturing out only once a day to check his mailbox. He varied the time of day he checked the mailbox until he had managed to pinpoint, within an hour or so, the regular delivery time, and afterwards literally pounced on the mailman every time he saw him coming lest the package he was waiting for was registered and he missed signing for it, requiring him to break his cover by making a trip to the Post Office to retrieve it. He was aided by three other reporters (right now I only recall Chardy). I don't know exactly what their work was, but I presume that they were placed between the safehouse and the Post Office to track the progress of the mailman and keep Oscar apprised by cellphone. Finally, Oscar's efforts and perseverance were rewarded and the mailman arrived with the Freedom of Information documents that form the basis of his report. This investigation, which supposedly had been two years in the works, the resourceful Oscar was able to complete within two months. It could probably have been completed earlier, except that the frugal Oscar, unwilling to take advantage of his expense account, declined to have the FOI documents sent by Express Mail/Next Day Delivery.

I swear that if Oscar doesn't get the Pulitzer for investigative reportage it will be because some other reporter, less scrupulous about his expense account, checked "Express Delivery" on the Freedom of Information Request Form.

Manuel A. Tellechea

The collaborators (I mean, contributors) to Oscar's story were: Herald staff writers Jasmine Kripalani, Luisa Yanez, Casey Woods and Alfonso Chardy. I presume that they are all Cuban (Kripalini being the reporter's married name). Apparently, every Cuban reporter at The Herald had to "dip his hands in the blood" to prove his loyalty to the paper.

I think we should focus a little of the spotlight on Oscar's collaborators (there I go again, I means "contributors").

They won't be getting Pulitzers but they are deserving of some recognition.

a thought...

Hi, Ted...or should I call you John? That whole "doing the salsa at Mango's" kind of gave you away. We've missed you in the worst way.

I don't know the whole story on this and it sounds extremely convoluted. But if you boil it down to the basics, its this: If the Herald knew the reporters were working for Radio and TV Marti and ignored the fact until the reporters were "outed" by the newstory, then that (to me) is hypocritical.

We need another paper in this town...no offense, Oscar. I find it ridiculous that we are such a big city and can only turn to one paper to get the news.

On another note, I read this article in the paper today and this portion struck me as the perfect example of hypocrisy:

On a recent day, a chiropractor named Vicente blasted capitalism, saying, ``People go hungry in the United States, and there's great income inequality.''

But he then mentioned that he has a brother in New York who emigrated in 1980 and now owns a trucking company. The brother sends Vicente $100 a month -- making him part of the estimated 30 percent of the island's population that receives cash remittances from relatives and friends abroad.

So how does Vicente square his stated preference for the communist system with his benefiting from the remittances sent by his capitalist brother?

''He doesn't get his money from capitalism,'' Vicente said. ``He gets it because he works hard.''

That is the problem with the Cubans on the island and their wonderful system of information. Capitalism does not give Vicente money; his brother gets money because "he works hard". You can work hard in Cuba as well and not have anything to show for it.

Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy in this guy Vicente's statement? Here is a chiropractor in Cuba who makes $14 a month and loathes the capitalist system. However, he is only too happy to take his brother's money and says capitalism has nothing to do with his brother being successful.

So this chiropractor is living in Cuba with their free health care and free education AND still gets $100 from a brother who lives in a system that Vicente despies.

The ultimate "have your cake and eat it too."

Enrique

CORRAL I HAVE MY GRAPHICS ART DIRECTOR PREPARING A PHOTOSHOP OF A PIG WITH YOUR FACE ON IT INSIDE A PIG CORRAL...

DEFINITIVAMENTE THERE IS WHERE YOU BELONG.

YOUR AGENDA WILL NOT GET VERY FAR..

THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF US WHO WILL CHASE YOU SIN MERCED..

YOU ARE NO CUBAN TO ME.

cubanpatriot

M.A.T.

That's too funny. I bet he took a vacation in the bahamas during his "research."

cubanpatriot

M.A.T.

That's too funny. I bet he took a vacation in the bahamas during his "research."

Manuel A. Tellechea

If one good thing has come out of this imbroglio, it is that El Nuevo Herald has asserted its independence from its sister newspaper by exposing the hypocrisy and lies on which Oscar Corral's story was based.

It today's newspaper they literally blow the lid off Oscar's olla podrida (go to a dictionary, Oscar). Since 1942, hundreds if not thousands of U.S. journalists have accepted payment from the U.S. government for their appearances on the VOA. None has ever been fired for it except the three Cuban-American journalists.

The monumentally disingenuous Fiedler, who has already admitted that he doesn't read his own paper, is quoted in El Nuevo Herald as defending the exclusion of this information from Oscar Corral's story because it only focused on journalists working for Radio and TV Marti. That, of course, is the problem. The story focused selectively on the Cuban-American reporters because they had been targetted for smearing. Why dilute your story naming Anglo names from VOA when you can have a bigger "scoop" by targetting specifically the Cuban-American community?

However, I am sure that Anglo experts have also appeared on Radio and TV Marti and been compensated for it. Why weren't they named? Didn't they fall within the restricted purview of this story (just those who've worked for Radio and TV Marti)?

Well, given all this new information, the fired reporters can now sue The Miami Herald not only for unlawful termination but libel as well. The mnalicious intent has already been more than proven.

nonee moose

ADT:

You're not a cynic...until U-sam tells you you are...LOL

U-sam, call ADT a cynic, already. There's only one of us in the clubhouse, and we've run out of ice.

Does anybody have a Super 8 projector? Cynics Anonymous is screening its archive copy of Fog of War at the Mahi Shrine tonight...

nonee moose

ADT, you're not a cynic... until U-sam tells you so...LOL

U-sam, call ADT a cynic, already. There's only one of us in the clubhouse, and we've run out of ice and cassava chips. I'd go myself, but I'm into this movie... does anybody have a spare Super 8 projector? It's hard watching a reel by holding it up to the light.

WheresJohn?

A.T. wrote: Hi, Ted...or should I call you John?


Oh my, first Manual the butterball, and now you. I am not John, however, i do hang out with him and drink beer with him. I do know that he will be arriving back shortly. I think all the blabbering from the bankrupt militant, radical exiles is getting him fire up. You know how he gets when exiles start shooting off their silly conservative mouths.


A.T. wrote: That whole "doing the salsa at Mango's" kind of gave you away.

I think most non-Cubans know that Cubans in this city do nothing but salsa the night away at Mangos, not a frekkin care in the world. I dont think that knowledge is unique to John.

A.T wrote: We've missed you in the worst way.


Thank you, i will pass this on to him. As i am sure he missed you, and a.d.t, and well, i think that is all the bloggers that he missed.

A.T. wrote: I don't know the whole story on this and it sounds extremely convoluted.


I agree, very hard to grasp. But all i need to know there were some more conservative Cuban exiles on the take. The real story is how, and why these exiles were rooted out, particularly at a moment when it seems as Cuba is very fragile. I dont blame Oscar at all, as Manuel said, it was a group effort at the Herald. Actually, the Herald may have been instructed to do so by forces within this nation. I think these forces in this nation really dont want to see a free Cuba. And no they are not liberal, commie democrats. They are rank and file, conservative red state racist bigots, who dont want to see black Cubans moving to Florida. Believe me, our government has always been content to let Fidel run Cuba, i think that goes for both parties honesty. But i just find it stunning that Cuban-American elected George Bush, is shockingly indifferent to Cuba's moment in time. Equally shocking in the reaction of the Cubans in Miami. If that was South Africa, and apartheid was on its last legs, you can better believe that the black community would mobilize millions in street forcing Clinton to give it the final push. Fact of the matter is, that if the government did not want Oscar's story to run, they could/would have prevented it. This government wants to dissolve the Cuban exile machine completely. They dont want the Cuban machine to facilitate the arrival of black and mixed raced Cubans to Florida. It is just my theory, but i grew up in the South, and have (many) conservatives in my family. And the Hispanization of America has got them horrified, absolutely horrified.

A.T. wrote: But if you boil it down to the basics, its this: If the Herald knew the reporters were working for Radio and TV Marti and ignored the fact until the reporters were "outed" by the newstory, then that (to me) is hypocritical.

See above. Times evolve A.T., this nation is scared of the coming Cuban wave to this nation. As i stated above, the republican party doesn't want to see thousands of black/mixed race Cubans walking on the shores of SouthBeach. Cant happen/wont happen. Another Mariel would cripple the tourist industry, here in SouthFlorida, it would force an already poor Miami to migrate up north to where they can meet their conservative bigots brothers and sisters. It would be your basic ripple effect, that would even negatively effect the fragile airline industry. You dont think that the conservatives have (think tanks) full of Trancredos, Buchannons and Lou Dobbs thinking about a free Cuba, and a darkened Florida which would result afterward. Yes, they do, actually Bush said he had 5 teams thinking about it. I can guarantee you, those teams are filled with red state conservative rednecks who dont want to see anymore dark skinned people in this nation. Dont believe me do you? It took Miami nearly twenty years to recover from what i think was a small Cuban exodus, compared to what will soon to follow once Fidel is gone. Point is, Bush, and the conservative party will not allow tv images of thousands of Spanish speaking Cubans immigrating to SouthFlorida. I think you being a Cuban-American, you dont have a grasp of the bigotry and racism in the this nation by the conservatives in the red states. Or perhaps, you think it doesn't apply to you, because even though you have a Spanish tongue, last name, and culture, that you are exempt because you have white skin. LOL. Ask Val Prieto, how far white skin gets a Cuban up north. Aint that right Val? :) Excuse me for a second A.T. Hey Val, when are you going to pen another essay about how tough it is for a white Cuban up north? Looking forward to seeing you take on the conservative racist for change, instead of being an apologist. Val, whose side will you stand on when the Democrats and Republicans go to war over the immigration of Cubans into Florida. Will you join in the Cuban immigrant bashing, which will be at a red hot level, led by the conservatives which you proudly vote for. Or will you side with the underpowered, underdog Democrats who will welcome the newly freed Cubans with open arms. Or worse will you call these black/mixed raced Cubans who were unwelcomed by the republican party, commie liberals, once they realized that the republicans did not want them here. Or have you even bothered to even give it a second thought?


A.T. wrote: We need another paper in this town...no offense, Oscar. I find it ridiculous that we are such a big city and can only turn to one paper to get the news.


Big city? This is a big town A.T., the 3rd poorest town in the entire nation, to be exact. Many residents who cant read an English paper, even if they wanted to, which most do not want to even if they could. I talked to my paperboy, and he said out of two hundred people in my building, that there was only 4 of us who had the paper delivered. Every other city i lived in, nearly everyone received the paper. No ma'am, this city doesn't need another paper, you just need to do some critical thinking about things you read and hear. Unfortunately Cuban-Americans generally do not train themselves or their children to think critically. Nope, the go marching over the cliff like lil lemmings, with the pied piper Bush leading the way.

A.T. arrogantly wrote: That is the problem with the Cubans on the island.


Oh my, oh my. You know what a.t., i not even going to paddle your bottom for that one. I will just let that statement remain in splendid isolation, untouched, pure as the driven snow, a blessed virgin if you will.


P.S.


I will be hanging out with John and some friends and Mangos, i will be sure to tell him that you said hello. :)


WheresJohn?

A.T. wrote: Hi, Ted...or should I call you John?


Oh my, first Manual the butterball, and now you. I am not John, however, i do hang out with him and drink beer with him. I do know that he will be arriving back shortly. I think all the blabbering from the bankrupt militant, radical exiles is getting him fire up. You know how he gets when exiles start shooting off their silly conservative mouths.


A.T. wrote: That whole "doing the salsa at Mango's" kind of gave you away.

I think most non-Cubans know that Cubans in this city do nothing but salsa the night away at Mangos, not a frekkin care in the world. I dont think that knowledge is unique to John.

A.T wrote: We've missed you in the worst way.


Thank you, i will pass this on to him. As i am sure he missed you, and a.d.t, and well, i think that is all the bloggers that he missed.

A.T. wrote: I don't know the whole story on this and it sounds extremely convoluted.


I agree, very hard to grasp. But all i need to know there were some more conservative Cuban exiles on the take. The real story is how, and why these exiles were rooted out, particularly at a moment when it seems as Cuba is very fragile. I dont blame Oscar at all, as Manuel said, it was a group effort at the Herald. Actually, the Herald may have been instructed to do so by forces within this nation. I think these forces in this nation really dont want to see a free Cuba. And no they are not liberal, commie democrats. They are rank and file, conservative red state racist bigots, who dont want to see black Cubans moving to Florida. Believe me, our government has always been content to let Fidel run Cuba, i think that goes for both parties honesty. But i just find it stunning that Cuban-American elected George Bush, is shockingly indifferent to Cuba's moment in time. Equally shocking in the reaction of the Cubans in Miami. If that was South Africa, and apartheid was on its last legs, you can better believe that the black community would mobilize millions in street forcing Clinton to give it the final push. Fact of the matter is, that if the government did not want Oscar's story to run, they could/would have prevented it. This government wants to dissolve the Cuban exile machine completely. They dont want the Cuban machine to facilitate the arrival of black and mixed raced Cubans to Florida. It is just my theory, but i grew up in the South, and have (many) conservatives in my family. And the Hispanization of America has got them horrified, absolutely horrified.

A.T. wrote: But if you boil it down to the basics, its this: If the Herald knew the reporters were working for Radio and TV Marti and ignored the fact until the reporters were "outed" by the newstory, then that (to me) is hypocritical.

See above. Times evolve A.T., this nation is scared of the coming Cuban wave to this nation. As i stated above, the republican party doesn't want to see thousands of black/mixed race Cubans walking on the shores of SouthBeach. Cant happen/wont happen. Another Mariel would cripple the tourist industry, here in SouthFlorida, it would force an already poor Miami to migrate up north to where they can meet their conservative bigots brothers and sisters. It would be your basic ripple effect, that would even negatively effect the fragile airline industry. You dont think that the conservatives have (think tanks) full of Trancredos, Buchannons and Lou Dobbs thinking about a free Cuba, and a darkened Florida which would result afterward. Yes, they do, actually Bush said he had 5 teams thinking about it. I can guarantee you, those teams are filled with red state conservative rednecks who dont want to see anymore dark skinned people in this nation. Dont believe me do you? It took Miami nearly twenty years to recover from what i think was a small Cuban exodus, compared to what will soon to follow once Fidel is gone. Point is, Bush, and the conservative party will not allow tv images of thousands of Spanish speaking Cubans immigrating to SouthFlorida. I think you being a Cuban-American, you dont have a grasp of the bigotry and racism in the this nation by the conservatives in the red states. Or perhaps, you think it doesn't apply to you, because even though you have a Spanish tongue, last name, and culture, that you are exempt because you have white skin. LOL. Ask Val Prieto, how far white skin gets a Cuban up north. Aint that right Val? :) Excuse me for a second A.T. Hey Val, when are you going to pen another essay about how tough it is for a white Cuban up north? Looking forward to seeing you take on the conservative racist for change, instead of being an apologist. Val, whose side will you stand on when the Democrats and Republicans go to war over the immigration of Cubans into Florida. Will you join in the Cuban immigrant bashing, which will be at a red hot level, led by the conservatives which you proudly vote for. Or will you side with the underpowered, underdog Democrats who will welcome the newly freed Cubans with open arms. Or worse will you call these black/mixed raced Cubans who were unwelcomed by the republican party, commie liberals, once they realized that the republicans did not want them here. Or have you even bothered to even give it a second thought?


A.T. wrote: We need another paper in this town...no offense, Oscar. I find it ridiculous that we are such a big city and can only turn to one paper to get the news.


Big city? This is a big town A.T., the 3rd poorest town in the entire nation, to be exact. Many residents who cant read an English paper, even if they wanted to, which most do not want to even if they could. I talked to my paperboy, and he said out of two hundred people in my building, that there was only 4 of us who had the paper delivered. Every other city i lived in, nearly everyone received the paper. No ma'am, this city doesn't need another paper, you just need to do some critical thinking about things you read and hear. Unfortunately Cuban-Americans generally do not train themselves or their children to think critically. Nope, the go marching over the cliff like lil lemmings, with the pied piper Bush leading the way.

A.T. arrogantly wrote: That is the problem with the Cubans on the island.


Oh my, oh my. You know what a.t., i not even going to paddle your bottom for that one. I will just let that statement remain in splendid isolation, untouched, pure as the driven snow, a blessed virgin if you will.


P.S.


I will be hanging out with John and some friends and Mangos, i will be sure to tell him that you said hello. :)


h a s s a n

Oscar

No te precupes. La verdad es tu apoyo. You are not alone. You have more supporters, many more, than you do detractors. Contracy to what the very vocal uberminority of intolerance want to have everyone believe, more Cubans are in support of Oscar than do not.

Carry forward Oscar, carry forward.

Mad Percolator

I'm new to this site and forgive my confusion, but how does the Gov't paying ANY journalists create a race issue?

I see this situation as analogous to that expose a couple years ago where somebody uncovered the government paying journalists in the SouthWest to shill for the "No child Left Behind" act. How can there be any justification for when the supposed 'journalist' is paid by the government to report what the government tells it to? I'm pretty sure there's supposed to be something called objectivity in reporting. And, even if there isn't supposed to be objectivity, shouldn't we at least have the respect of KNOWING that what's being passed for 'news' is actually secretly a representation of the government's agenda?

And, just because the more militant of you crack me up - I'm cuban american, semi-socialist, democrat/independent, and a supporter of Janet Reno. heheh.

Ariadna451

John,

I've just learnt the age of Cancio's son.
With your hatred you've even changed my legal status. Bet his wife is gonna be jealous.
Why so much hatred, John?

Jr

What its wrong its wrong , dosnt matter who u are or from where u are . By saying that Oscar did wrong letting the world know that some journalist were receiving govertment payments for their comments its like saying that the ones jailed in cuba deserved it , the ones jailed cause they wanted everyone to know that in cuba u cant have freedom of press, that u can only work if u make the kinds of comments the govertment want them to do .

So , what its the difference between those over Cuba and those over here , to have a free press u cant be under the influence of anybody , u cant be PAID !!! by the govertment even to say what u think , cause then is a controlled opinion , U wanna work for the govertment then go work for them , but cant do both , cause how reliable are these journalist ar gonna be for us when they take side paid by someone else ??????
U wanna make comments against Castro or Cuba , ok u can do it but do it urself on the paper u work !!!!!!!
Sometimes strikes me the hypocrisy of some of the people who post in here , those who claim be against the regime in Cuba and then charge against someone traying to do what he should , traying to keep what this country is about DEMOCRACY , the righ to freedom of specch , the right of freedom of press , and by the way MAnuel , im cuban also , and I dont feel betrayed cause OScar was doing his job , so like u say, Cubans have to stick with Cubans , so those cubans under the scandal in the Miami Housing , u sticking with them too ??????, or just have to stick with certain class of cubans ?????

A thought wrote : On another note, I read this article in the paper today and this portion struck me as the perfect example of hypocrisy:

On a recent day, a chiropractor named Vicente blasted capitalism, saying, ``People go hungry in the United States, and there's great income inequality.''....

Thats not hypocrisy , its just the work the cuban govertment have been doing for 47 years , keeping the population away from the truth , what u read on todays newspaper is a real example on how distorted is the truth in Cuba , they repeat what the govertment habe been putting on their , brains for so many years , remember , no access to foreing news , no access to internet , so no access to international reality , they just know what they want them to know .

curt

Those fired journalists will be welcomed with open arms at the right wing fascist publication Diario Las Americas

Ariadna

Wonder why Corral closes its blog so often

Yankee Patriot

Estimada Sra. Iriondo,

Nadie menos sus compañeritas vestidas en negro cree en sus mentiras derechistas. Aunque Castro y su sueño izquierdista no es el futuro de Cuba, tampoco es el sueño derechista en que usted cree como una buen soldado fascista.

Se murio Batista hace muchos años. Los que van a gobernar a Cuba despues de Castro no son como usted. Creen en la democracia y nunca pero nunca apoyarian Republicanos en los EE.UU, porque los cubanos en los EE.UU que han dado su apoyo a estos norteamericanos derechistas simplemente son batistianos que nunca tendran la oportunidad de volver a su pais natal a causa de sus crimenes contra la humanidad.

Por favor, quedese en su casa y callese la boca. Usted significa menos que nada con respeto al futuro de Cuba.

CubaLibre

Estimado Yankee Patriot,

Sylvia Iriondo y las madres y mujeres valientes de M.A.R. por Cuba han hecho mas por la patria, aunque están en el exilo, que tu estas haciendo sentado atrás de tu computadora disparando acusaciones falsas y sin base. Primero de todo, Sylvia y las mujeres de M.A.R. han estado unidas por los últimos 12 años LUCHANDO por la RESTORACION de derechos humanos en Cuba, no cometiendo esos crímenes como dices tú. Sylvia ha sido una victima de los crimines contra la humanidad. No nos vayamos a olvidar de lo que paso el Febrero 24 del 1995 con los aviones de Hermanos Al Rescate que simplemente estaban tratando de ayudar a la gente Cubana escaparse de la represión y del régimen totalitario. En mi opinión, creo que es mejor tener ideológicos y ideas derechista con respecto a Cuba porque si son izquierdista como quiere usted nos podemos levantar en el día de mañana y tener el embargo contra Cuba subido, y darle mas dinero a Fidel (mas que los $550 millones que tiene en el banco) mientras la gente del pueblo cubano siguen sufriendo en la miseria. En vez de estar sentado, insultando a tu propia gente cubana, únete a la campaña de NO COOPERACION CON LA DICTADURA para que tu propia gente Cubana disfrute de los derechos humanos fundamentales que le pertenecen a todos.

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