WPBT Channel 2 will broadcast Leyendas: The Legends of Cuban Music, an original WPBT production on Wednesday, June 14 at 8 p.m.. According to the news release, the one-hour documentary "celebrates one of the most vital elements of Cuban culture - its music - and pays homage to the men and women who shaped its infectious sounds and irresistible rhythms. One-on-one interviews include living legends Israel López “Cachao,” Generoso Jiménez, Bebo Váldez, Olga Guillot, Olga Chorens, and many others. Interviews, anecdotes and archival images, underscored by the sensuous cadence of Cuban music, depict a pivotal era in music’s history. These artists’ accomplishments paved the way for contemporary performers Emilio Estefan, Paquito D’Rivera, Arturo Sandoval and Willy Chirino, all interviewed on-camera." Photos: Cachao, Guillot, Benny More, Cruz.
I believe that this is somthing we can all agree on as being positive and uplifting for community.....please dont trash it loujohn
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 09:28 AM
Manny,
Sure thing, i just hope there are no angry mob of Miami Cubans gathering at the front door. We all know the reputation of right wing Miami Cubans, and musicians and artist trying to perform.
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 09:44 AM
I've said it before: I want my music to be entertainment. If I agree with the artist's views, fine. If I don't, I'm not going to deny myself listening to something I like just because I don't agree with them. For example: I like Sting with the Police and not Sting as a solo artist. It has nothing to do with his views; it has to do with the fact that I belive he made his best music when he was part of that band. Sting as a solo artist bores me to tears.
That said, I also don't want to hear anyone glorifying Castro or Che in song or film, for example. So I will simply not buy the CD or go see the film, but I won't burn anything or encourage the banning of books. That is the first step towards the death of free thought and expression; just ask anyone who lived through the Nazis infamous burning of anything that wasn't "pure."
Posted by: a thought.... | June 12, 2006 at 10:28 AM
Too bad the rest of the Miami Cubans dont think like you A.T. If Cuban artist come to Miami to perform, then the Miami Cubans riot in front of the venue.
I would like to see the Miami Cubans riot if Shaquielle O'Neal decided to go hear Cuban islanders play on the beach. The Miami Cubans would immediately label O'Neal a communist.
LOL, Miami Cubans are extremist and radicals. All it would take is one miscalculation with a beloved figure like O'Neal for America to permanently turn against the militant unAmerican Miami Cubans.
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 10:57 AM
Not all Miami Cubans are extremist and radicals. I am all for peaceful demonstrations,again as guaranteed by the Constitution, but think about this: one of the first thing that extremists, such as Islamic fundamentalists, would burn, destroy and ban would BE the Constitution. Fanaticism in any shape or form is dangerous. Look at what the world in general is facing because some maniacs (yes, they're maniacs) didn't like that someone painted a cartoon of their prophet. Meanwhile, Islamic newspapers routinely mock Christian and Jewish symbols of faith. But put a bomb in a turban and insanity breaks loose. Typical example of those that can dish it, but can't take it.
By the way, I'm more worried about Islamic fundamentalist nuts then any other. They cannot be pacified at all. Any religion that allows the sacrificing of children for the greater glory of their beliefs needs to feared.
Posted by: a thought.... | June 12, 2006 at 11:32 AM
Loujohn,
I knew you would stir the pot fpr the sake of stirring the pot. I was hoping you would take my statements at face value. But now that you brought it up, if the money from a performance, CD or movie goes to benefit "the revolution", let it happen somewhere else. I dont want it in my back yard. Does the performer have a right to perform his/her craft? Sure they do. However, I have the right to protest....peacefully, civially and legally. That is all i am saying.
P.S. Shaq would not do this, because he is sensible (unlike some bloggers i know). But if he did "no se lo perdonamos"
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 12:18 PM
Actually, i think the Miami Cuban extremist who plant bombs on airliners that killed innocent Cuban athletes are equally as despicable. As i posted before Miami Cubans have committed the most acts of internal terrorism within America's borders.
You speak of Islamic extremist burning books and the constitution. Well it seems as if Miami Cubans have done a great deal to stifle free speech within Miami, i.e. the radical Val Prieto. Miami Cubans have the most anti-Democracy principles of any citizen living and working in America.
Your argument is flawed A.T. First you argue that "all" Miami Cubans aren't militant and extremist like Val Prieto. Then you "appear" to argue that "all" of Islam are militant and extremist when a cartoonist put a bomb in a turban, and that is wholly representative of how they "all" think. When in fact it was only a few that erupted over the cartoon.
One could watch the Elian Gonzales disturbances and assume that "all" Miami Cubans erupted in the streets. One could watch the eruption over the cartoon, and assume that "all" Muslims erupted in the streets. You cant have it both ways. If you are going to reject the stereotypes of Miami Cubans based on a few. Then you must be prepared to reject the stereotypes of Muslims based on a few. Cite: The communist Serbs tried to argue that all the Bosnian Serbs were nothing but militant and extremist terrorist. President Clinton didn't buy it. Clinton said the real terrorist were the communist Serbs, and set out to crush the last of the European communist.
So A.T. i dont think all or even most Muslims are extremist. As President Bush has said before, many "schools of thought, such as the Islamic religion have been hijacked by a "few" who have perverted it for purely selfish reasons."
Finally someone like yourself could argue that Val Prieto does not represent Cuban-Americans. But Mr. Prieto is an excellent representative of the ultra extreme, militant, radical Miami Cuban. He is the Miami Mafia T-shirt wearing member that should be held out as the spokesman for the Miami Cuban online community. So you can try to put some distance between you and him all you want. But you two will always be linked. Why? Because you two are Miami Cubans.
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 12:19 PM
A.T.
You agree with you whole hertedly about sting. When he left the police, he got way existential.
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 12:22 PM
Manny ignorantly wrote: I knew you would stir the pot fpr the sake of stirring the pot.
All i said was i hope that Miami Cubans wouldn't riot, if the artist were from Cuba.
Manny wrote: However, I have the right to protest....peacefully, civially and legally.
Ha! Miami Cubans never peacefully protest. The Miami Cuban protest with bomb threats, and spit in peoples face.
Manny ignorantly wrote: Shaq would not do this, because he is sensible (unlike some bloggers I know). But if he did "no se lo perdonamos
First, Shaq has made his feelings clear about Miami Cubans after he had to personally arrest a Cuban on the beach last year.
Second, Shaq is a left wing Democrat, which automatically makes him a communist with the Miami Cuban community.
Finally, i dunno know what you said in Spanish. But i guess it was that Shaq is a commie. LOL This is how Miami Cuban alienate so many people.
P.S.
If the Miami Cubans hate Shaq, Wade, and the rest of the Heat b/c they disagree with Bush, and are left wing. SO WHAT!!!
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 12:29 PM
Loujohn,
Yes, whoever planted the bomb on the airliner should be punished to the full extent of the law. When you have concrete evidence and a conviction of the person who did it, you let me know. Assuming that in your previuos post you are talking about posada ....again, he was acquited 3 times, count'em 1,2,3. you are the first one to bitch about us when we stereotype and make false accusations, yet you keep on "metiendo la cuchareta" with posada when it is YOU SIR who wrong.
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 12:37 PM
See how I dont call you ignorant. All i want is the same courtesy. why is that so hard. Do i need to take you behind zayre's on 87th avenue for a good old fashioned high school, lunchtime ass whipping
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 12:40 PM
LOL, ignorant is not an insult. Ignorant means that one is unaware. You were unaware that i was merely making an observation, and not a put down to the Cubans. See watch how i use the word ignorant in a sentence.
Manny, so you dont appear ignorant in the future, please look up the word ignorant.
(snicker)
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 12:54 PM
why dont we talk about somthing serious, like the lady who got kicked out of starbucks on the beach for changing the babys diaper on the table?
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 12:57 PM
Manny,
I hope you are not attempting to argue that Miami Cubans have never committed terrorist attacks. You have previously expressed your irritation b/c of my articles. Please dont force me to begin to back up my assertions with hard-hitting articles!!
P.S.
The woman was kicked out for breat feeding. Please reread the Miami Herald article more carefully. Also, it was a Miami Cuban manager who kicked out a European tourist. Always Miami Cubans starting trouble.
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 12:59 PM
The lady was changing a diaper in the middle of the restaurant. That is unsanitary and ridiculous.
I said not "all" Miami Cubans are extremists. I stand by that. I am a Miami Cuban and I am not an extremist. That would be like saying "all" Americans are members of the Klan. That is untrue.
I also repeatedly stated "Islamic fundamentalists" which are the Muslims that have hijacked the religion. And it was more than just a "few" that freaked out over the cartoon. It happened in more than one country, as well. I was making a point that fanaticism is dangerous in any way, shape or form. If you cannot even allow a single thought to enter your brain that might differ from what you believe, then I think you're pretty dangerous.
Posted by: a thought.... | June 12, 2006 at 01:14 PM
Again i am right: Mother was kicked out for breast feeding.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/14796762.htm
A.T.
Im a little startled by your vicious attack against me. I feel as you have put me on the defensive, and as such i must rise up and defend my strongly held beliefs. I said it "appeared" as if you were arguing that all of Islam were fundamentalist. terrorist. Perhaps i was wrong in your analysis. If i was inaccurate than i offer my sincere apologies.
However, i remain convinced that the radical, militant, Miami Cuban remains the biggest internal threat against America, due to their previous horrific attacks within America. As such there no Cubans who can demonstrate to my satisfaction that the Miami Cuban are a moderate and tolerant community.
And what exactly did you mean when you said im dangerous. I am a squeezable and lovable teddy bear.
Sincerely,
john
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 01:31 PM
On second thought, that mother looks to be a Miami Cuban who was changing/breat-feeding one of her many babies. I stand corrected partly. Im fairly adept at spotting the Miami Cuban now!!
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 01:33 PM
I wrote: If you cannot even allow a single thought to enter your brain that might differ from what you believe, then I think you're pretty dangerous.
That wasn't directed at you, John. It was directed at anyone generally.
Not all Muslims are fundamentalists. Not all Miami Cubans are militants. Again, are all Americans in the Klan? No.
You remind me of that teddy bear from the Snuggle Fabric Softner commercial. Though I'm sure there are plenty here who would love to toss you in a dryer just to watch you spin. I am not one of them.
From the article: But Starbucks spokesman Alan Hilowitz described a different sequence of events. He said Sunday that a store manager asked Coombs to leave when she refused to stop changing her baby's diapers on a table inside the coffeehouse.
That is unsanitary and I would not want to be in any restaurant where some woman just whips off the dirty diaper on the table in full view of other patrons. Again, there is probably a changing table in the women's bathroom.
As far as breastfeeding in public, I can see where some people would be uncomfortable with it. Yes, I know its natural, but there are a lot of things that are "natural" that we do that should not be done in public. That said, it doesn't bother me personally if someone is breastfeeding in public. However, I was at a baptism where some lady in the church did start breastfeeding right there in the middle of the ceremony. That was ridiculous.
Posted by: a thought.... | June 12, 2006 at 01:50 PM
A.T.
You know what sugah? There have been several times that i have mischaracterized or misunderstood what you have said. Im so used to getting viciously attacked here, that i am always on alert. But i will no longer be like that with you.
Also, the article i read this morning had 5 women breasting feeding out in front of the Starbucks as a protest statement. So that is why i said it was the breast feeding issue.
When i am attacked or my post are questioned, then i always back them up with the article as i did above. When you tried to side with Manny against me, i was forced to back up my original post.
That is one thing i pride myself about. Every thing i say can and will be substantiated if necessary, unlike Manuel the liar.
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 02:05 PM
loujohn:
aren't you little old to be changing your diaper in public? and for your mommy to be doing it, well, that's just icky...
did mommy pat your wittle bottom with "talquito"? wittle woujohn like "talquito"...
Posted by: nonee moose | June 12, 2006 at 02:46 PM
sting's first solo effort (Blue Turtles) was pretty good, i thought... later, yes, i agree... too self involved. but the first album offered a real glimpse of his influence on the police... contrast with stu copeland's solo under the pseudonym "klark kent", and you will actually see the creative battle that tore the band apart...
oh yeah, loujohn, time for your bottle...
Posted by: nonee moose | June 12, 2006 at 02:58 PM
Quien le gusta fastidiar ahora, Nonee?
Posted by: a thought.... | June 12, 2006 at 02:58 PM
Loujohn wrote:
hope you are not attempting to argue that Miami Cubans have never committed terrorist attacks. You have previously expressed your irritation b/c of my articles. Please dont force me to begin to back up my assertions with hard-hitting articles!!
Loujohn,
I was speaking strictly of posada and I think i made that clear. yes, there have been some whacky cubans in the past who committed done terrible and unforgivable acts. I will not deny this. However, i was referring to one particular man. regarding the breast feeding article, you have to do more than look at the pictures!
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 03:16 PM
Wow, Manny, Zayre on 87th! There's a Winn Dixie there now. But I remember Zayre... Glad to see you agree about Sting. After the masterpiece that was "Synchronicity", he had to go and make me crazy with blue turtles and stuff..
Posted by: a thought.... | June 12, 2006 at 03:25 PM
Blue Turtles was a good album....Remember the song "Mother" on Synchronicity? Copeland wrote that I believe, and I deleted it when I transfered the album to my ipod. After that Sting was boring.
Since Oscar's post is about music...I highly recommend Mongo Santamaria's Afroroots...Especially to you LouJohn...maybe for a few minutes through music you, can understand what it's like to Cuban, and then maybe you can forgive the rightwingers.
on a side note, the breast feeding is natural, and should not be offensive. That said, so is scratching one's ass...meaning there is a way to do it without offending. Did the offending breastfeeder put a towel or something over herself??? Just again...a different thought
Posted by: a different thought | June 12, 2006 at 03:27 PM
ADT,
I will wait to see if the Cuban islanders forgive the right wing Miami Cubans first.
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 03:40 PM
A Different thought,
The alleged victim claims she was booted because she was breastfeeding. Starbucks said she was booted because she changed the baby's diaper on the table. The alleged victim admitted changing the baby's diaper on the table. So, I guess it really had nothing to do with breastfeeding. Although, todays protest brought up an awareness that all mothers should have about breastfeeding. There are studies that prove that breast feeding actually makes for healthier babies.
A thought,
I live in South Carolina (the home of real racists and rednecks)now, but I grew up in miami. I love to reminisce about the old days and keep up with what my people are up to in the magic city. I also miss cuban coffe at versailles and croquetas from islas canarias on coral way.
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 03:44 PM
By the way, regatta de blanc was the best police album for me. I saw them in the orange bowl (synchronicity tour)
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 03:45 PM
By the way again, Is Lila's still open? I sure do miss that Lila's steak!
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 03:47 PM
Yes, Lila's is open, but by December has to find a new home; Westchester Mall was sold and is going to become (I believe) a Lowe's. Such is progress. I used to love going to that mall as a kid; it was either that or Midway Mall. There was nothing else. The Police albums were pretty much groundbreaking efforts in every way. I even caught a reference to "Synchronicity" on the first "Spy Kids" movie; there was a character named Ms. Gredenko. I don't know if that was on purpose or a coincidence.
Never got to see the Police live; it is one of my musical regrets. Also never got to see the "real" Van Halen.
Posted by: a thought.... | June 12, 2006 at 04:22 PM
Lowes in westchester??????? Do you think that they will sell caja chinas? Great market for it. It would save people the drive to hialeah to pick one up
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 04:32 PM
Although I doubt it, you could be wrong on this one Lou Dobbs. Just last week while watching either La Cosa Nostra or Zona Cero, I don't remember which as neither are exactly memorable programming, they were playing some of "that communist" music for their young tittie dancers to swivel to. Yes it's true. The entire cast was up and doing their best conga to Sur Caribe's "Muévete así que te queda bien." And these people have to be communist right? I mean they still live in Cuba.
I haven't read a thing about their transmission tower having been pulled down by a Hialeah tow truck so maybe things are dying down here in Miami as the viejos slowly die off. Or perhaps 11pm was just past their bedtime.
Posted by: vote gringo | June 12, 2006 at 04:36 PM
And incidently........in response to the quote:
"These artists’ accomplishments paved the way for contemporary performers Emilio Estefan, Paquito D’Rivera, Arturo Sandoval and Willy Chirino, all interviewed on-camera."
I for one have never thought of Emilio Estefan as a performer unless one can include his decades long performance of a straight man married to a straight woman.
Posted by: vote gringo | June 12, 2006 at 04:43 PM
Downtown Westchester... who remembers the Red Balloon toystore? The Westward Ho? The Mister Donut?
Posted by: nonee moose | June 12, 2006 at 04:44 PM
Emilio Estefan was a musician in "miami sound machine". as well, he wrote alot of the songs
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 04:58 PM
Is arbetters hotdogs still open?
Posted by: Manny O. | June 12, 2006 at 05:00 PM
vote grino,
Fair enough, i trust your judgment.
Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 12, 2006 at 05:06 PM
The Westward Ho...next to the Westchester Movie theater.....Hmmmm
Yes, Arbetter is still there.....
Who remembers Circus Wagon on Bird Road...It was there for a short time, the building is now a Chinese restaurant.
Posted by: a different thought | June 12, 2006 at 06:06 PM
And, yes, like it nor, Emilo Estefan is a musician he wrote most of the Miami Sound Amchine Songs, and played in the band....Renacer......
Posted by: a different thought | June 12, 2006 at 06:08 PM
Didn't read Mister Donut til now...That was a teenage rite of passage ...you went there after parties and tried to torture the waitress with the beehive....the best hot chocolate...ah, the good ole Miami, before all this nonsense....I miss the cocaine cowboy days, except for the cocaine and the occasional shootings or body found in the trunk of a car, it was a gentler, kinder Miami....
Posted by: a different thought | June 12, 2006 at 06:11 PM
Of course I remember Westward Ho!; right next to Westchester Cinema and the fabric store. How about Black Angus where La Carreta is now on Bird Road?
ADT: I miss those times as well. I was a kid in the 70s and turned 20 in 1988 (sorry, John; I'm probably way older than you). I will never be a Toys R Us kid; Play World all the way! I also used to love when my grandmother would take me to The Snack Shack in Westchester Mall for the pizza. I will miss Westchester Mall when it finally goes; that was a huge piece of my 70s and 80s life.
Oh, quick one...Charlie's Pizza also in Westchester. They had the greasiest, best slices around....
Posted by: a thought.... | June 13, 2006 at 08:38 AM
Miami Sound Machine used to play at the Big Five. I saw them there once when I was invited to a party. They still had Gloria's cousin in the band.
Posted by: a thought.... | June 13, 2006 at 08:39 AM
Gloria's cousin becky owns a stationery called the paper store or something like that. Its behind the giralda cleaners on 57th...
AT- was that you behind the banstand at the big five? I waited all night in my nik nik shirt, and you never came back... I can't begin to tell you of the emotional scars...
ADT- the 5A bus route dropped off right in front of mister donut, and you could run across the street to cozzoli's...
Any of you remember a local cover band named clockwork? Heaven?
Posted by: nonee moose | June 13, 2006 at 10:09 AM
I remember quite a few local cover bands: The Boys and Eruption are the two that come to mind. Also, from my Button South days: Vandal, Marilyn Manson & the Spooky Kids, Amboogalard, etc. and so on...
Nik Nik Shirt??? No, mi vida. I have no clue about that. Sorry, Nonee, must have been someone else...sorry about those emotional scars; you must have been holding onto them for years. I hope you find her to work out those 1983 issues...
Posted by: a thought.... | June 13, 2006 at 11:02 AM
AT, I knew that was you... You left me behind the bandstand at the big five, by the pool... I can't begin to tell you about the emotional scars... All those years... And now, consorting with known toe fetishists, forshame...
Anybody remember a cover band named Clockwork? Heaven? Southern Trust?
Posted by: nonee moose | June 13, 2006 at 02:51 PM
Clockwork sounds vaguely familiar and maybe Southern Trust...however, "Heaven" was the name of the gay club that Joe went to in an episode of "Que Pasa USA"...sorry, Nonee!!
Posted by: a thought.... | June 13, 2006 at 04:05 PM
I will show John my toes if he drinks mojitos with us on Varadero...
Posted by: a thought.... | June 13, 2006 at 04:06 PM
Heaven was real... the QPUSA reference was and inside joke actually...
AT, don't forget Manny, he wanted to see them, too...
Posted by: nonee moose | June 14, 2006 at 10:17 AM
Just in case you wanted to check out more on the program, a site for the show has been launched.
www.channel2.org/leyendas
Posted by: A little extra info | June 14, 2006 at 10:40 AM
Clockwerk, Heaven later Mint, and Southern Trust ....... a bit of trivia...... Becky Fajardo, Gloria's sister, offered up The Miami Sound Machine to play for the prom for Lourdes in 1981, Southern Trust beat them out, and Southern Trust played. Glenn, the lead singer, was always such nice guy
...If you wanna get down down on the ground slocaine......
Posted by: a different thought | June 17, 2006 at 09:33 AM