Miami Dominates National Hispanic Market

Hispanic Business Magazine this month published a list of the top 500 Hispanic-owned companies in the U.S. Five of the top ten, including the two largest Hispanic-owned businesses, are based in Miami-Dade County, fueling the notion that Miami is in the driver's seat of Hispanic entrepeneurship in the United States.

Top 10:

1. The Related Group of Florida, Miami, CEO Jorge Perez, 2005 Rev: $3.2 bil

2. Brightstar Corp., Miami, CEO R. Marcelo Claure, 2005 rev: $2.2 bil

3. The Burt Automotive Network, Centennial, Colorado, CEO Lloyd Chavez, Jr., 2005 rev: $2.1 bil

4. Molina Healthcare Inc., Long Beach, California, CEO Mario Molina, 2005 rev: $1.6 bil

5. MasTec Inc., Miami, CEO Austin Shanfelter (Chairman Jorge Mas Santos), 2005 rev: $848 mil

6. International Bancshares Corp., Laredo, Texas, CEO Dennis Nixon, 2005 rev: $675 mil

7. Prestige Builders Partners LLC., Miami, CEO Caparros & Boschetti, 2005 rev: $597 mil

8. Ancira Enterprises Inc, San Antonio, Texas, CEO Ernesto Ancira, 2005 rev: $589 mil

9. General Real Estate Corp., Miami, CEO Agustin Herran, 2005 rev: 542 mil

10. Elder Automotive, Troy, Michigan, CEO Irma Elder, 2005 rev: $504 mil

Other Miami Companies that round out the top 30 Hispanic business in the U.S. are Quirch Foods, Sedano's Supermarkets, Urbieta Oil Inc., Century Homebuilders, First Equity Mortgage Bankers, Navarro Discount Pharmacies and Community Asphalt.

http://www.hispanicbusiness.com/

Comments

[Manuel A. Tellechea]

As George Gilder wrote in "The Spirit of Enterprise" 20 years ago: "Cuban-Americans are the most successful immigrants in the history of this nation of immigrants."

This is something for which neither the Anglo establishment nor the permanent black/Latino underclass will ever forgive us; for we shattered the former's myth of superiority as well as disposing of all the excuses which the latter had for their endemic failure.

[a thought....]

Couple a hard work ethic with a good education and you can go where you want, regardless of your origins. That said, I am proud that Cubans have worked hard and gotten somewhere in this nation. Yes, John, I know that some Cubans went the "Scarface" route, but that can be said for Columbians, Jamaicans, etc. as well. Every country, race and religion has the good and the bad.

You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have...the facts of life...

Anyway (sorry for the detour into 80s land), I'm sure someone will point out that Cubans were successful in this country because of Batista or Castro or Che or whoever, but I believe they are successful because they worked at it. Some of the business leaders of today had parents that came from Cuba and, regardless of whatever position they had on La Isla, had to sweep floors and empty garbage cans. But they did it gratefully and with pride and passed that sense of worth to their kids.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

A.T. wrote: I'm sure someone will point out that Cubans were successful in this country because of Batista or Castro or Che or whoever

Eh, i was thinking 1980's cokecaine profits!!

[a thought....]

John, don't start..I didn't profit from any 80s cocaine trafficking and neither did anyone I know. Did you have a bad night?

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

A.T.

Sugah, how did you know? You are really getting to know my moods. Kind of cute!!

[vote gringo]

Manuel, if in fact the "anglo establishment" holds any animosity towards Cuban-Americans I feel it is most likely due to the methods that many have used to achieve success rather than the fact that they have become succesful.

For example take a look at MasTech, Inc. (Church and Tower) and it's 17 million in fraudulant billing to Miami-Dade county, causing the county to bar further contracts with MasTech, Inc.

Or perhaps someone like Felipe Valls, of Versailles and La Caretta restaurants who evidently feels no shame in staffing his restaurants with illegal immigrants nor in treating those who are legal as if they were slaves on a sugar plantation in the days of Batista. Don't believe me? Stick your head in the kitchen door and say "immigracion." Or simply ask your server how well he or she is treated.

I don't think that "the anglo establishment" it is asking to much when it expects refugees to abide by it's own democratically decided laws. Your comments remind us all, once again, that for many Cuban exiles, democracy is something to be embraced only when it is convenient to their selfish cause.

[a different thought]

It's a learning process, you can't just dump democracy on a bunch of people who have been denied it for decades and expect them to jump right in....

But that said, A.T. is right a lot of very well educated Cubans were not ashamed to wait tables, empty trash, wash dishes, or whatever necessary to ensure their family could grow up in Freedom... They certainly are a model for anyonw who thinks things have to be handed to them to be successful.

And, LouJohn, A.T. is right: very few Cubans profited from Cocaine proficts, and the few who did are either dead or in jail.

Say what you want about their methods...their success in undeniable.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

Vote gringo,

Again you are so correct. I heard that Miami Cuban bosses are the biggest sons of bitches to work or in SouthFlorida.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

A.D.T. wrote: And, LouJohn, A.T. is right: very few Cubans profited from Cocaine proficts, and the few who did are either dead or in jail.

Wrong, many Cuban cokecaine cowboys were very successful in their efforts evade of the authorities. In fact most were never caught. Additionally a lot of the millions were hidden in offshore accounts, and are only now being brought to invest in legitimate investments.

However, i will agree that "most" Miami Cubans were not involved in the illicit drug trafficking that was rampant in SouthFlorida during the 1980s. But the Cubans who were involved in that illegal traffic became wildly successful.

I do suspect that many of the cranes which are changing the Miami skyline are funded indirectly by the 1980s drug profits

[a thought....]

John wrote: However, i will agree that "most" Miami Cubans were not involved in the illicit drug trafficking that was rampant in SouthFlorida during the 1980s. But the Cubans who were involved in that illegal traffic became wildly successful.

I think a LOT of people involved in trafficking became very wealthy (I don't know if successful is the right word).
But, give John credit, he did say that "most" Miami Cubans weren't involved in the drug trade that exploded in the 80s.

And yes, some Cuban bosses are absolute nightmares to work for. Some are not; it depends on the person. I've worked for both kinds.

John, I'm curious: How are those cranes funded indirectly from the drug profits? I had never thought of that one. I'll take a guess: The drug lords held their cash and then decided to buy up any possible land left in this place and start construction. Am I on the right track?

[a different thought]

The buildings that were funded by the Cocaine trade can be seen in the huge houses built along 137 Avenue from 8th street to 40th street.

Really LouJohn you've only been here a short time, seems like you've made a few friends so ask questions and do your homework.

Miami history is rich in tangents and sidetracks, not a straight line as you believe.

[a different thought]

LouJohn:

I can't belive it didn't occur to me before, it would do you good to read Heln Muir's "Miami, U.S.A."

Muir was a well known Miami Herald reporter during her day who chronicled the deveolpment of Miami from Julia Tuttle's time through the invasion of the Cubans. The book is replete with anecdotes and stories that every Miamian should know. Great understanding for why some things are the way they are down here.

Helen's granddaughter, Celeste Muir, sits on the Circuit Court bench now.

[a different thought]

And, LouJohn for the last time it's Cocaine..not Cokecaine. Coke is the drink made by the Coca-Cola company...BTW also headed by a Cuban-American

[jose]

lol

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

A.D.T.
Yah, i knew that is why i drink Pepsi, instead of the crappy Coca-Cola. But thanks for the book, i have cut and pasted it to read next month. I think Miami is such an intriguing city. As Miami does unfortunately mirror the volatile Balkans, particularly the divisions, repression, racism, unspoken anger, and the disparity of income. Actually the people of Sarajevo and Miami are exactly the same. Except the hard right wing Cuban exiles would stand in the shoes of the communist shoes, believe it or not. Also i only have one real friend here, and that is A.T. Everybody else despises my face. But i really dont give a damn as i despise them right back.

A.T.
I dont know "exactly" how the cranes are funded by the prior drug trade, as that would take inside knowledge. However, i dont think it would be a stretch to believe that corrupt banks, front companies, prime real estate given as payment for 1980's type favors etc etc etc are behind "some" of Miami's growth.

I guess what im saying is that America's 1980's drug trade was a billion dollar industry, which was mostly generated from the mansions in Coral Gables to the warehouses in Hialeah, and then ultimately to the entire nation. It does seem logical that these sometimes very bright Cuban exiles would eventually turn their drug profits and their intellect into safer and perhaps even more profitable markets, i.e. Miami real estate. I suspect that many wealthy and successful Cuban drug dealers would have been very wealthy and successful business owners without their involvement in the drug trade, if not for Castro. It is just my opinion, as i attempt to see around corners to things that are hidden from my plain view. Some would call this being a conspiracy theorist. I just call it good ole fashion, gotcha!!!

[Manuel A. Tellechea]

A Different Thought:

Roberto Goizueta was the chairman and CEO of Coca-Cola up to the time of his death 3 or 4 years ago. He was also, sad to say, a proponent of eliminating the trade embargo. Sugar water meant more to him than did his country.

[nonee moose]

Hey loujohn, and now I have add one more idiot v-gringo...

Stop hating, gentlemen. For all the immorality of his chosen profession, at least Tony Montana was a KINGpin, second to none. A little respect is due.

ADT- good call on goizueta... To think, a CUBAN running the most "real" American brand in history. Why, I think I heard loujohn and v-gringo toss their cookies...on each other.

[nonee moose]

Commerce secretary gutierrez ran Kellogg's... Loujohn just yakked in his corn flakes...

Cubans... They're grrrrrreat!

[a thought....]

Plenty of cocaine alleys to travel down on 137th...some of those homes really are overdone: monuments to too much money and not enough taste.

Banking laws did have to change due to the huge influx of illegal dollars attempting to be laundered.

I don't like Pepsi or Coke overly much. Give me Orange Crush, a Stewart's Creamsicle (love that Cracker Barrel! No, John that's not a dig at you with the "cracker" reference)or lemonade.

[Pee Wee Herman]

jonhfellow

Do you work? I see all you do is to follow mr Prieto and George . Now you are posting at Debbies. Who invited you there?

[a different thought]

Another recommendation..the three part series in The Miami New Times called Kilo Part I, II and III.

The banking laws had to change..the article mentions that in the 80's all of the excess cash in the country was held in Miami-Dade County banks....It's true Cocaine, in part, built this town, but don't think that means that most Cubans profited, most didn't...most just watched as some of their neighbors, all of a sudden, could afford things that you knew they couldn't.....Boats, fancy cars and realestate improvements.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

A.T.

Lol, that cracker reference was funny.

A.D.T.

That is exactly what i have been saying. I know that "most" Cubans were not in the drug tade.

Pee Wee Herman

Im currently a student. And what are you talking about that militant Val, and that jerkoff George L. I havent spoken to those censorship-loving exile piglets in nearly a month. They dont show their faces here after their much deserved spankie they received. They know better. However, your piglet self seems not to have learned your lesson as you continue to squeal in front of my face.

[Pee Wee Herman]

You must dream about Val and George every single nigth. I am a good reader longjohn pijamas.
and now you are a student? I bet your teacher is Cuban. Hopefully she or he will give you good grades. Maybe that way you can start writing good things about us Cubans. and no, WE ARE NOT MEXICANS. We eat frijoles negros. not refried shit beans

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

1) Val and George represents all that is divisive in Miami. Their destructive mentality which promotes and drives the stereotype of the ugly Cuban is what they attempt to foist upon others in order to intimidate and coerce America into thinking that their school of thought is correct.

2) The field which i am studying has no Cuban professors teaching. Nevertheless, it will be the open-minded Cubans like A.T. and A.D.T. which takes the fierceness from my fingers and my tongue, and not you, Val, George, or Henry. Note: A.T. and i differ about 90% of the time.

3) Your statement, "WE ARE NOT MEXICANS," is the perfect example. Always trying to separate, and keep divisions for purely self-preservation. Fact of the matter is i dont give a damn if you are Mexicans, and neither do conservatives.

This was fully demonstrated last night in the Debbie's widely read conservative blog. Conservatives who viciously and quite frankly unfairly labeled the entire 120,000 Mariel Boatlift as Cubans. Your conservative brethren promoted that ugly stereotype for the entire conservative base to ignite against the Cuban-Americans. Your party ruthlessly attacked the Cuban-Americans last night, not me. Like i have argued in the past the conservative party is racist against you Cuban-Americans. And now with the advent of the conservative blog. The Cuban-American will get a bitter dose of what the base thinks of you. Just as Val Prieto has even been shocked by the venom of the conservative base against the Cuban-American.

My anger with the Cuban-American is based more in politics and their shitty attitudes in Miami. The conservative base anger is based on hard core, straight out racism against anything that speaks Spanish. Cite: conservative Lou Dobbs. Pee Wee no matter how much you seperate yourself by putting down the Mexicans, you will always be judged by your Spanish tongue and culture. Hell most "real" Americans probably think Mexico and Cuba are landlocked neighbors. Face it, you chose the wrong party to swear allegiance to.

So go back into Debbie's republican blog and scream to the republican base that you eat better food than the Mexicans. As their overt and ruthless racism against Cuban Americans last night is much more dangerous to the your community, than my Cuban Chicano remarks.

If not then get the hell out of my face, because you cant go toe-to-toe with me boy. Because unlike the racist conservatives did last night, i tell the truth about you Cubans.

NUFF SAID,
BIG JOHN

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

i wrote: unfairly labeled the entire 120,000 Mariel Boatlift as Cubans

The widely read conservative blog labeled the "entire" Cuban Mariel boatlift population as CRIMINALS. Which of course was a conservative republican flat out, bold face lie. Even i have never attempted to argue that.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

Good gaaawd you right wing Cubans go running at the first sign of trouble. Pee Wee this is the 3rd time THAT i have to dunk on you. Please dont let there be a 4th. Thank you for your cooperation!!

NUFF SAID,
BIG JOHN

[Moby Aka katie couric]

John or is it Fico?

"chicanos" is not the correct term used for Cubans.You mentioned that your anger is directed at their politics, but everything that i have read from you proves otherwise? If you hate miami so much and Cubans so much, get the hell out of dodge! Before you come at me:

I am an american
I do not live in Miami or any where near Florida
I am not a member of any mafia organization
I am not a student
I am a libertarian
i can not stay all day long on the computer and respond.

as you can see, I will start by not calling you names, so please let people have constructive conversations.

[Moby Aka katie couric]

The Cubans are rather succesful according to this article. My next door neigbors were Cubans and worked their butts off/ while others just complained all the time

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

Yaaawn,

Another miami cuban ghost poster. Honey do you see the scars on my back. I have fought too many battles for you to trick me.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

One more thing what is Fico? And who said i hated Cubans. I have never stated that i hated Cubans. However i do hate Miami, but i live in Southbeac. And i love SouthBeach. Why? Because this is where "real" Americans live. SouthBeach is where the rich and powerful "real" Americans live. As such my area is nice, clean, and English speaking. Just how i like it.

[nonee moose]

I see many have been feeding the loujohn this evening...

WARNING:

DO NOT FEED THE LOUJOHN. IT HAS NO BOWEL CONTROL AND SOILS ITSELF INDISCRIMINANTLY...

Thank you for your cooperation.

[a different thought]

Nonee...Do you think LouJohn is Oscar???

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

http://64.226.238.78/PA/fr/fr206.shtml

[Not a gringo]

vote gringo - You have got to be kidding me. Speaking of the "methods" used to achieve success, explain Enron, HealthSouth, Adelphia, Tyco, etc etc etc. These despicable members of the "anglo establishment" were already remarkably wealthy but that wasn't enough, their greed led them to f--k over countless others to become even richer.

And speaking of hiring illegals, perhaps we should pay a visit to the "anglo establishments" in California or in the Northeast or the Midwest.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

not a gringo,

Very Good point!!

[Pee Wee Herman]

lonhjohn pijamas wrote

Yaaawn,

Another miami cuban ghost poster. Honey do you see the scars on my back. I have fought too many battles for you to trick me.

Posted by: John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs | June 13, 2006 at 06:50 PM

Jonh you are an old toad. Now you are going to school . How many time have you repeated 3th grade?
One previous reader nail it rigth, Chicano is not a word use for cubans. I do believe John that word is reserve for your fellow mexican friends.. Remember john, Cubans prefer black bean over refried shit beans.

John I am not afraid of you. So far you have not won me any battle, on the contrary I continue to beat you silly. You are not brave enough to go one on one on cuban issues with me.

Iam so glad Debbie retracted from her ill comments about the 120k. John most marielitos are profesionals, business owners, sucessfull entrepenuers, athletes, writers, painters, bankers, politicians and much more I cant remember now, so if that makes them criminals then what are you?

you are still a 3th grade student wearing pijamas

Thanks for your coperation tonite sir

[unmedicocubano]

Indeed, we are one of the most successful immigrant groups ever grace this grand U.S. of A. Certainly, the most successful group from Latin America by far. Apart from the enormous economic achievements, we can boast about 2 Cubans in the U.S. Senate, 2 in the House and a Cuban Secretary of Commerce; all of this with just roughly 1.2 million Cubans in the U.S... I don’t see any Colombians, Venezuelans or Nicaraguans in the U.S. congress, do you?

This level of success will naturally breed envy and invite attacks. I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Tellechea, due this success Anglos and particularly the left, has historically assailed exiled Cubans; labeling us cowards, criminals, terrorists and everything in between. Our so called “Latin American brothers” have shown mainly contempt as they would like nothing better than to wrest political control and influence from the exile community. In fact, Cubans are the only ethnic group that can be demonized in the U.S. with zero repercussions; I can’t imagine any other community being smeared a la Michael Moore without widespread outrage in response. Can you imagine the consequences had Moore called Mexicans cowards instead?

But I digress. Proud to live in America and proud to see plenty of Cuban names on that list. I must congratulate you on the blog Oscar, chanced upon it and definitely a pleasant surprise

Unjust criticism is usually disguised compliment. It often means that you have aroused jealously and envy. Remember that no one ever kicks a dead log –Dale Carnegie

[vote gringo]

My point went over your head "not a gringo". I was explaining to "Manuel" why, perhaps, some of the "anglo establishment" might think negatively of the Cuban exiles here in the United States. I never indicated that there are not greedy gringo sons of bitches too.

It is common, and regretable, that any minority will be labeled for the notorious actions of a few. Look no further than the annual influx of hip-hop African-Americans onto Miami Beach. These people with their guns, vibrating car stereos and general lewd behavior are in no way indicative of the over-whelming majority of African-Americans, but they get the attention and mold the hostilities of other cultures, White, Latino or otherwise.

You, "not a gringo" missed the point of what I was trying to say to Manuel. I never said that Anglos are without fault, I was merely pointing out to him that the average Cuban exile is unfortunately put in a bad light by the few who make the news for their intolerant actions and intolerance of any idea that is not in line with their own, and that this is perhaps the reason many non-Cuban Americans have a rather dim view of Cubans in general. Perhaps it comes from having been born into and raised among simple things like democracy and freedom of speech. Perhaps they are just more comfortable with these concepts.

If I've only riled you further, perhaps some commiseration with your compos at the Versailles cafeteria will calm you down. And while you are there, be sure to ask the girls working the counter how the Valls family treats them. Just like family I bet.

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

pee wee wrote: Iam so glad Debbie retracted from her ill comments about the 120k.

First the damage was already done. Second i think it spoke volumes that a conservative would even post such a racist smack at the Cuban-Americans in the first place. Anyone who is the least bit astute about America's politics knows that 120,000 of the Mariel Boatlift Cuban were not criminals. Rather i think that the conservative blog was merely trying to inflame tensions between English speaking and Spanish speaking Americans. It is the Republican's strategy by which they can destroy the pro-Spanish immigrant Democrat party. Val and the other Cubans just busted that conservative racists. What is sad is that Val, George, Ziva and others will be even busier busting conservative bigots as the Republicans begin to link the Democrat Party and the Spanish speaking voter. Actually they were quite successful in last week race in San Diego.

Contrast that with Democratic blogs. You can go to any Democratic blog and what you will hear is disagreements about America's Cuban foreign policy, as well as some ignorant hippie-type pro-Castro statements. But what you wont hear from Democrats is vicious nasty racist attacks against the Cuban-American people. Even Democrats like me would get immediately pounced on as being a bigot. This type of intolerance for bigots against Cuban-American is perfectly acceptable in conservative blogs, however.

I feel at home voicing my opinions about the Miami Cubans in conservative blogs, in the rare instances i am in there. The same remarks that are acceptable and agreed with in a conservative blog about Miami Cubans would get a whole Democratic chatroom in an immediate uproar. But i remain unconcerned about being labeled a bigot against the Miami Cuban. Why? Because most Cuban-Americans are bigots themselves. The Cuban-American thinks he can fit into the southern base type bigotry by demonstrating that they are a "special" type of Spanish speaking minority. Last night you and the other conservative Cuban-Americans saw first hand how the conservatives speaks about the Cuban when they think no one is looking. Thank god for blogs, now the ugly truth is being ruthlessly revealed.

So yes Pee Wee be happy that Debbie was "forced" to retract that blatantly racist posts that all 120,000 Cuban Marial Boatlift immigrants were criminals. You saw how not one conservative commentator corrected her, rather there was uniform agreement. Her original statement in any Democratic blog would have been torn apart in seconds as being racist.

You are being purposely foolish if you dont think she and the other conservatives dont sincerely hold these racist beliefs about the Cuban-American. Perhaps it is too painful for Cubans to face. As i said earlier but/for the Bay of Pigs the Cuban-American would "still" be Democratic. In fact if you go outside of Miami, most Cuban-Americans are Democratic. I suspect that they are unable to align themselves with people that harbor secret and hidden racist beliefs about them.

Finally, if you carefully read Debbie's retraction, it really wasn't a retraction. She specifically said that "if" i am wrong about the 120,000 Mariel Cubans being criminals i am sorry. {If) But that really doesn't matter to you. Because at the end of the day the Cuban-Americans are the racist Republicans whore minority group. The Cuban-American gets used and discarded until the next election. And in between the election cycles the conservatives blog about how the Cuban-Americans are nothing but criminals and pieces of excrement as they so brutally opined last night when they thought no Cuban-American would overhear.

Yah so be happy that the conservative blogger was sorry. Really what the conservative blogger was sorry about was that she got caught being racist against Cuban-Americans. What is even more telling is that she is one of the leading American female voices in the Republican Party after that other bigot Ann Coulter. I know you probably dont recognize the difference. Or worse you dont care that the conservatives inflame and incite racist attitudes and stereotypes about the Cuban-American. After all a whore never cares how she/he is treated, they just care if "sweet nothings" are whispered in their ear at the right moments. So Pee Wee just keep smiling like a circus clown, and begging for more future apologies from the racist republican base. Because after nearly 7 years of conservative rule an apology about racist remarks against you is all the Cuban-Americans have ever gotten from the conservtive base.

Nuff said,
big john

[Pee Wee Herman]

John I will say this only once. I can not vote in the US election because I live outside the mainland. I am neither liberal or democrat. I do not align myself to anyone in particular.As a matter of fact I take the best of both worlds and throw the garbage out. I only despise the Democratic Party because I will never forget the COWARD Kennedy. Maybe if your president Kennedy had acted like a real man , we would not be in this predicament.

[Pee Wee Herman]

Dallas Mavericks 3 Miami 0

SWEET

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

LOL,

A cowardly Cuban calling a ww2 veteran a coward b/c he didnt order an airstrike. Now i heard it all.

I am sure you feel the same way about the cowardly Cubans who roam the streets of Miami.

I mean come on, out of 300,000 Miami Cubans, the most that signed up to fight Fidel was 1200 miami cubans to fight Castro. LOL. And most of those Bay of Cuban veterans surrendered after less than 24 hours, i guess they too cowardly to fight to the last man.

Did Castro have airpower when he overthrew Bastista? No. Then why would you need airstrikes. Just another excuse as to why the Miami Cubans are the only people in the entire world who cannot claim a nation as their own. So they have to foolishly strut around Miami like they should be admired.

Finally, obviously you are a cowardly Cuban piglet who escaped to somewhere other than America. Why arent "you" bravely fighting for "your" nation like Kennedy fought for "his" nation? Why arent you picking up arms against Fidel? Too cowardly.

Fact of the matter is that Kennedy fought for "his" nation. And you fled from "your" nation. LOL COWARD PIGLET!!

NUFF SAID,
BIG JOHN

[Pee Wee Herman]

Regardless of what you say , President Kennedy will always remain a Coward to me.
He gave his words and did not deliver.

I came out of Cuba as a teenager (14) and YES I will be in the front lines If a well organize team is prepare to topple the beast. so please do not again label me a coward NEVER AGAIN DO THAT SIR. Also, NEVER AGAIN DO NOT CALL ME A PROUD MEMBER OF THE MIAMI CUBAN MAFIA beacuse I do not live there sir.. Do not EVER CALL ME A conservative because Iam neither.

Still Mavericks 93. miami 88

Go mavs

[Not a gringo]

vote gringo - Okay, I understand what you are saying. I wasn't sure whether you were saying that all Cuban-Americans had found success through unethical means and that's what riled me up.

John - What youre saying kinda makes sense. I hope you are wrong

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

As the Bay of Pigs veterans have stated. They were already in the process of surrendering, so any airstrikes would have been irrelevant.

P.S.
any man who has never carried a rifle for their nation has no right to hurl around the world coward. Kennedy carried a rifle for his nation, and you havent. So that makes you a coward!!!

NUFF SAID,
BIG JOHN

[John Longfellow aka Lou Dobbs]

not a gringo,

If you are talking about conservatives being racist, and taking the Cuban-American vote for granted. Well that is a fact. The Republican Party owe much of their existence to the Cuban-Americans pivotal vote, and in return they have to endure racist remarks, and hidden hostility towards them.

So if that "kinda" makes sense to you, then perhaps its "kinda" true.

[Not a gringo]

John - please research the bay of pigs invasion because I dont think you know the whole story. the fight lasted much longer than 24 hours and most of them did not surrender - i seem to recall you saying that you were a soldier, please do not discredt these fellow soldiers who died

[not a gringo]

pee wee - the mavericks?? say it aint so. the heat won anyway

[Pee Wee Herman]

Thanks to your Coward president Kennedy we have 570 months of HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL..

[Pee Wee Herman]

Too bad nowistky missed...Regardless , my big money is still riding on Cuban.. No wonder, with that last name how can i bet against the amazing Mavs.. They are due and deserve the championship..